Unable to change size of horizontal holder frame


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KR95747

I inherited a Visio template with a horizontal holder that I can't figure out
how to resize. I can select the frame and drag the corners to reduce the
width of the frame, but can't do the same with the height. I have unchecked
all Protection and Behavior items I can think of, but nothing seems to help.
Do I need to change the shape sheet settings in some way? Thanks for any
suggestions you can provide.
 
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Paul Herber

I inherited a Visio template with a horizontal holder that I can't figure out
how to resize. I can select the frame and drag the corners to reduce the
width of the frame, but can't do the same with the height. I have unchecked
all Protection and Behavior items I can think of, but nothing seems to help.
Do I need to change the shape sheet settings in some way? Thanks for any
suggestions you can provide.
Is it a cross-functional flowchart?
Create one from menu File -> New
and see if it's the same type.
 
K

KR95747

Yes, it's a cross-functional flow chart.

Paul Herber said:
Is it a cross-functional flowchart?
Create one from menu File -> New
and see if it's the same type.
 
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Paul Herber

Yes, it's a cross-functional flow chart.
Right, click on the frame header area until the frame's handles are
shown (green blobs), then drag the appropriate green blob.
 
K

KR95747

Tried that, but it doesn't allow changes to the shape. I finally figured out
that in the Shape Sheet, the frame is protected from any changes to the
height/width. When I changed all of those settings, I could then alter the
shape of the frame. Not exactly intuitive... but it worked. Thanks for your
help.
 
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Paul Herber

Tried that, but it doesn't allow changes to the shape. I finally figured out
that in the Shape Sheet, the frame is protected from any changes to the
height/width. When I changed all of those settings, I could then alter the
shape of the frame. Not exactly intuitive... but it worked. Thanks for your
help.
Whatever. It's still the wrong way to do it. It's not intuitive
because it's wrong. Do it properly and it'll work correctly.
 
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kid lofi

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Tried that, but it doesn't allow changes to the shape.
Asked By KR957427-Mar-09 11:54 AMReply
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Tried that, but it doesn't allow changes to the shape.
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I finally figured out
that in the Shape Sheet, the frame is protected from any changes to the
height/width. When I changed all of those settings, I could then alter the
shape of the frame. Not exactly intuitive... but it worked. Thanks for your
help.

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Unable to change size of horizontal holder frame
Asked By Paul Herber27-Mar-09 12:07 PMReply
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:54:01 -0700, KR95747
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Whatever. It's still the wrong way to do it. It's not intuitive because it's wrong. Do it properly and it'll work correctly.
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Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd.
Electronics for Visio http://www.electronics.sandrila.co.uk/

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That seems unnecessarily rude. Yes, i'm sort of trying to start a flame war here, but only because I don't like it when people who pretend to help give "Because, that's why" as their helpful answer.

Let me draw attention to the highlighted sections and extrapolate:
"Tried that, but it doesn't allow changes to the shape."

Which means 'So, drag green handles. Sure i've tried that before, but I've missed obvious things in the past, so let's give it a go. Okay. Does nothing. Check. Your suggestion was read, considered, applied, and failed. Now, I shall spend several hours trying dodgy jerry-rigged workarounds because a basic functionality appears not to work for no reason, nor is there any indication that the function is somehow disabled beyond the obvious of it not actually working, and finally achieve something. Delighted with my own unexpected success, I shall proudly share my hard-won knowledge.'

Next:
"Whatever. It's still the wrong way to do it. It's not intuitive because it's wrong. Do it properly and it'll work correctly."

Which means, 'Oh, look, you answered your own question! Well fXOk you, and fXOk your workaround. You OBVIOUSLY don't know anything about this program, if your blobs aren't working, which they would, if you knew ANYTHING about this program. Then, you could just make the blobs work, instead of fooling around with things of which you have already proven yourself as having absolutely NO comprehension. That's what I get for trying to be helpful. AXOhole.'

So, while I might be going over the top with that little digression into the mental processes of our pro- and ant-agonist, it illustrates the fact that a step was missed. Mainly the one in which the helpful answering questions person goes,
ah, I see my suggestion about the blobs didn't work. That must be because (arcane reason X). Usually you don't run into this problem because (sensible although complicated explanation that probably goes over your head, but I can't reasonably expect you to understand all of it, nor should i), but seeing as it's an inherited template, I can't really blame you, and you might try fixing it by by (possible solution Y).

I've come across this post because I've made the futile mistake of trying to help someone very stressed, and run into the exact same inexplicable problem. And, while I have no problems using the counter-intuitive but effective solution the asker found on their own, I would also like to address this gap in the process by asking the following:

1: What WOULD be the proper way of resizing the height of said frame?

2: Otherwise, how would one avoid creating said object such a way that there would be a hidden lock on one of its attributes?

3: Is 'blobs' an official term for those handles? I dearly hope so.

So, Regards Paul Herber, redeem yourself, or don't. I'm just about done with my armchair general-ing here, and am off to apply the dodgy workaround.

....AXOhole.
 
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kid lofi

Wow. The breaks on this forum are brutal huge. And the apostrophe must be some sort of code, cos it ate my quotations. Sorry, everyone! I'm sure you'll be able to follow it just fine!
 

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