viewing in Firefox requesting Authentication, trying to reroute to

[Pat]

Contined from a previous thread that i barged in on
David F was helping me.

Using Publisher 2007 - but site was originally built in Pub 2003

per DavidF's suggestion - I'm working through Design checker...
www.tcliftonart.com

my firefox issue is with hyperlinks. main page of site loads fine. then if
you click on any of the links an authentication box pops up. and it looks
like it's asking for the FTP authentication.
SO why are my links incorporating FTP protocol vs. html... but being a
novice - i have no clue how to fix this???? help please...

src="ftp://tcliftonart.com/html/index_files/image2133.gif

 

[DavidF]

Pat,

Sorry if I came off as the Net Police. It just is hard to spot new questions
when they are attached to other threads. If they are in another thread we
assume they are in response to that thread, and not a new question, which
makes it confusing for those of us that try to help out here.

As per your issue...I haven't seen it before. I get the same thing you do,
when I click any of the navbar links to other pages in your site in FF, a
dialog pops up wanting me to log in, implying that the page is in a password
protected folder. And yet if I keep closing those dialogs....many times,
eventually the page loads. Strange...very strange and I am not sure of an
answer.

It appears that it may be a permissions issue on your host. Did you ever
attempt to make any of your site password protected? You may have to ask
your host why this happens, unless someone else can offer an answer or one
of the other changes I will propose for your site fixes it.

In the meantime though, did you work through the other suggestions I made in
the other thread? You say you are working through the design checker. When
you loaded the current version of your site, was "Allow PNG..." and "Rely on
VML..." unchecked? Are you using a Master page? And finally are you using
"publish to the web" instead of "save as a web page" to produce your html?
Try those things, delete your old index.htm and index_files folder from your
host, and upload the fresh html files and folder. Its possible the issue you
are having in FF will be fixed.

But before you do that I see an issue on your home page...the index.htm
page, that should be fixed first. The oblong object that contains the
"Current Exhibits and Highlights" text appears to be overlapping into the
scratch area, as it makes your page appear to be setup as 1175 pixels wide.
Make sure that oblong object is fully on the work area of your Publisher
page, do a web page preview and make sure it doesn't create such a wide
page.

The other issue you should resolve now or eventually has to do with your
images. Be sure to compress your graphics before you upload again. If your
picture toolbar isn't already showing, click on one of the pictures on your
page. That should bring up the toolbar. Then look for the "Compress
Pictures" icon. Click it, and a Compress Pictures dialog comes up. Probably
check all options under Compression options, and select Web under Target
Output, and probably "Apply to all pictures..." under Apply compression
settings now. This Compress Pictures option is a new and improved version in
Pub 2007 from 2003. We argued long and hard in the Pub 2007 beta over how
Pub 2003 handled pictures, and this was an excellent upgrade by MSFT. It
even shows you at the top of the dialog just how much Compression savings
you will get, and smaller, compressed images will load more quickly on your
site.

Take these steps, delete your old index.htm file and index_files folder on
your web host, and upload your new pages, and see if that fixes the issue
you are having with FF. Even if it doesn't, you will have improved your
site. Post back and let us know please.

DavidF

 

[Pat]

DavidF –
Thanks for all the help…

APlus is our host and they felt the issue is with Publisher.. their response:
“I think, I have located the problem. It is related to the HTML source code
of some of your pages. Within your pages, you are displaying some images.
However, your code is not correct. You are referring to the images via FTP
protocol instead of HTTP. Here is an example of a source code fragment which
needs to be corrected:"

src=ftp://tcliftonart.com/html/index
and you’ll be thrilled that they suggested I consider going to Expressions
or Dreamweaver. Rebuilding this website is not top of my list right now –
and I thoroughly enjoy using Publisher as it’s “my speed.â€

• Allow PNG… Done
• Rely on VML …. I can’t find this command… help me please

Working on the other items.

More later
Thanks!

 

[DavidF]

Pat,

In looking at your code, there is indeed a number of references to "
src="ftp:// " on the second page such as:

src="ftp://tcliftonart.com/html/index_files/image5741.jpg"

I can see why as FF tries to load the image it thinks you need to log into
your ftp folder...it is looking to the ftp folder for the image. What I
don't understand is how Publisher is writing that code. First of all, I have
never known Publisher to create a "html" subfolder and then place the
"index_files" subfolder within the "html" subfolder. And Publisher doesn't
write to ftp????? Color me confused...

When you upload to Aplus, do you use ftp or http publishing protocols? What
is the ftp address they gave you to use?

When you do publish do you put the Publisher files in the "html" folder? Is
that folder already there? Is that the default folder that Aplus says to
load your files to?

Did you use the Publish to the Web? Did you use Save As a Web site? Did you
use FTP or HTTP publishing protocol?

Are you inserting a code fragment to import your images or just inserting
the images into your pages? If you don't know the answer to that question,
how are you getting your images into your pages?

Are you using a master page?

As per the VML...sorry, that's my mistake. They took that option out in Pub
2007.

Please answer the questions above.

DavidF

 

[Pat]

DavidF,

Yes - i insert the image directly. Then I use the "hotspot" tool to link
the picture to the page I want the user to go to.
yes - using master page for the background and general template

To Publish.
1 - save as index.html.pub
2 - the i click "publish to the web"
and route to the ftp site with APlus
3 - open html folder and replace the previous index.htm file (yes, default
folder_

per your previous directions. I will blow the old file away and replace
with the one i've now image compressed and format fixed.

That should be done by 11pm cdt

again - thanks for hanging in there with me...
pat

 

[DavidF]

Pat,

Ah yes, now we are getting there. You can't use a Master Page with a web
document...it creates problems, and apparently one of the them may be
writing paths to ftp...

Move all your content off the Master page and do away with it. Delete your
old files, and publish new.

With a little luck, that is your issue.

DavidF

ps. you home page looks better now that you changed the oblong object.

 

[Pat]

Hummmm.. i'm not fully sure I know what "not using a master page" means. But
I'll review everything tonight. I'm not tracking on how to have the same
"template" on every page without a master page..

but once i've done that and republished - I'll let you know. it may be a
few days.
thanks again...
pat

 

[DavidF]

The Master Page option should be reserved for print documents. Be sure we
are talking about the same thing. I am talking about the specific Master
Page feature. Go to Format, and if you have Edit Master Page then click that
and View master pages. If you have design elements on that master page, you
need to move those elements to the publication pages. If you are using the
words "master page" instead of template, then we are talking about two
different things. Lookup "Master Page" under Help for more details. Also,
you can use "background" in the web document. That allows you to apply a
color, texture or even graphics to the background. It is under Insert, and
perhaps look up "background" while you are in Help.

As far as how to have the same template elements on every page, that is
easiest done when you add pages to your publication. Note when you insert a
page you have the option of duplicating all objects on a particular page.
Then after doing that, you delete the objects and content that does not
belong on the new page and add your new content. This way the design
elements that are shared across the publication are easily duplicated on
each page.

In your case, it will probably be easiest if you open a new instance of
Publisher, and create a new page with all the template elements and design
elements that are going to be common to each page of your publication. Then
count the number of pages in your original publication, and create that
number of duplicate pages in your new publication. Then go back to the
original, Edit >Select All (Ctrl + A), Arrange > Group All (Crtl + Shift +
G), Edit >Copy All (Ctrl + C), and then Edit > Paste (Ctrl + V) the page in
the new publication. As all the objects are grouped, you can drag them
around for placement, and then ungroup when you are done. Once you get the
work flow going it should not take you that long to rebuild.

DavidF

 

[Pat]

DavidF
Sorry for my delay in responding. I did get a chance to double check things
this weekend - and yes, the Master Page appears at about page 4. I'm
suspecting this is why home page loads ok (it's not a master page) - but
then any link off the home page triggers the authentication.

I'm in the process of cut/paste... so I will check back and let you know
those results.
thanks again for hanging in with me...
pat