WD2007 does not convert WD6 files correctly

[SergeRD]

File converts with lot of odd chars: e.g. þ4 € ] € ] Ã. Is there som way to
convert the docs without having to install WD97 and try again?
/S

PS

 

[Gordon]

File converts with lot of odd chars: e.g. þ4 € ] € ] Ã. Is there som way
to
convert the docs without having to install WD97 and try again?

What is "WD6" and "WD97"?

 

[SergeRD]

WD is shorthand for Microsoft Word

WD6=Microsoft Word version 6, which was released in 1993 for DOS, Windows
and Mac.

WD97= MS Word version 8, which was released in 1997 for Windows and in 1998
for Mac (aka WD98).

Next version (v 14) will be called "WD2009" or "WD2010" depending on when it
is de facto released. Current bets are around end of 2009, start of 2010.
Probably with Windows 7. The late nov 2009 PDC so close on the heels of the
2008 PDC is definitively a hint of many major product releases...

/S

File converts with lot of odd chars: e.g. þ4 € ] € ] Ã. Is there som way
to
convert the docs without having to install WD97 and try again?

What is "WD6" and "WD97"?

 

[Gordon]

WD is shorthand for Microsoft Word

WD6=Microsoft Word version 6, which was released in 1993 for DOS, Windows
and Mac.

WD97= MS Word version 8, which was released in 1997 for Windows and in
1998
for Mac (aka WD98).

Next version (v 14) will be called "WD2009" or "WD2010" depending on when
it
is de facto released. Current bets are around end of 2009, start of 2010.
Probably with Windows 7. The late nov 2009 PDC so close on the heels of
the
2008 PDC is definitively a hint of many major product releases...

Thank you for sharing your personal shorthand - in 20 years I have never
seen or heard of anyone using "WD" for Word....

 

[Bob Buckland ?:-\)]

Hi Serge,

What is the language setting/encoding of those files? (I'm assuming you're using the Winword with TrueType fonts rather than DOSWord
version files here).

What fonts were used in those files?

Do the files open correctly in Windows WordPad?

Under Office Button=>Word Options=>Advanced=>General
if you turn on the 'Confirm file format conversion on open'
then open the document do you get a confirmation/conversion dialog?

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File converts with lot of odd chars: e.g. þ4 ? ] ? ] Ý. Is there som way to
convert the docs without having to install WD97 and try again?
/S

PS >>
--

Bob Buckland ?
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

 

[Bob Buckland ?:-\)]

Hi Gordon,

Prior to Word 2002, the MS Knowledge base abbreviation for the various Word versions used WD plus the version number. For example
the subject line of
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/199785?FR=1

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Thank you for sharing your personal shorthand - in 20 years I have never
seen or heard of anyone using "WD" for Word.... >>
--

Bob Buckland ?
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

 

[SergeRD]

Hi Bob,

thanks for the tips

Hmm thought everyone new about the WD shorthand :-o ;-)

What is the language setting/encoding of those files? (I'm assuming you're using the Winword with TrueType fonts rather than DOSWord
version files here).

Western eurpean

What fonts were used in those files?

Standard fonts. Notice that the docs were edited on a macintosh

Do the files open correctly in Windows WordPad?

Did not ets that--will do

Under Office Button=>Word Options=>Advanced=>General
if you turn on the 'Confirm file format conversion on open'
then open the document do you get a confirmation/conversion dialog?

Yes

 

[SergeRD]

Thank you for sharing your personal shorthand - in 20 years I have never

seen or heard of anyone using "WD" for Word....

will refraing from commenting on that... but guess I have seniority then ;-)

 

[Gordon]

will refraing from commenting on that... but guess I have seniority then
;-)

I doubt it - Word hasn't been around for a lot more than 20 years....

 

[Steve Rindsberg]

will refraing from commenting on that... but guess I have seniority then

I doubt it - Word hasn't been around for a lot more than 20 years....

From Wikipedia:

"Microsoft Word is Microsoft's flagship word processing software. It was
first released in 1983 under the name Multi-Tool Word for Xenix systems.
Versions were later written for several other platforms including IBM PCs
running DOS (1983), the Apple Macintosh (1984), SCO UNIX, OS/2 and Microsoft
Windows(1989)."

From a paleontological perspective, five years is not a lot. Adding 25%
add'l to the total life span might be considered substantial.

 

[Bob Buckland ?:-\)]

Hi Serge,

If you get the confirmation dialog when opening the document then generally Word is basically saying it does not recognize the
document as a Word .doc file. What file format is Word reporting that it thinks the document is made of?

Using Wordpad is sort of a backup check to see if it's a corrupted/damaged document or an issue with Word.

MacWord being in the mix can complicate things a bit as 'standard' fonts on the mac aren't necessarily the 'standards' for WinWord.
Were the files from the mac used on a Windows Word version prior to this? Were these emailed from a mac or ????

There was also an Eastern European Font issue that could occur that might be a part of this.

===============
Hi Bob,

thanks for the tips

Hmm thought everyone new about the WD shorthand :-o ;-)

What is the language setting/encoding of those files? (I'm assuming you're using the Winword with TrueType fonts rather than DOSWord
version files here).

Western eurpean

What fonts were used in those files?

Standard fonts. Notice that the docs were edited on a macintosh

Do the files open correctly in Windows WordPad?

Did not ets that--will do

Under Office Button=>Word Options=>Advanced=>General
if you turn on the 'Confirm file format conversion on open'
then open the document do you get a confirmation/conversion dialog?

Yes>>
--

Bob Buckland ?
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

 

[SergeRD]

OK I did some more systematic testing.
The documents are definitively all made with Word for Mac.
Docs made with Word for Mac 5 convert fine in WD2000, 2003 and 2007.
Docs made with Word for Mac 3 do not !! But it may still be a problem caused
by the old mac data/resource forks being corrupted so I'll try with Word
95/97 and Word for Mac 2008 first. But I have doubts as Mac Word 98 only
could (I think) convert Mac v 5 docs and newer.
Looks like there is no support for Mac v 3 in any Word for Win version (Mac
v 4 corresponds to Win v 1, which may explain this). very frustrating in that
case.
I'll dig on.
/S

PS To forestall any comment on the 'old docs' topic: Yes many of the docs
can be thrashed, but a couple cannot.

 

[SergeRD]

The problem is not the text but the layout (especially tables)

Sigge

 

[Bob I]

Please see this link at Microsoft

http://support.microsoft.com/search...id=global&catalog=LCID=1033&1033comm=1&res=20

that is not shorthand for word... WHo said that crap... ????????

it is not documented anywhere... and you come here asking for help and
post a question in such a stupid cryptic way


what an idiot!

WD is shorthand for Microsoft Word

WD6=Microsoft Word version 6, which was released in 1993 for DOS, Windows
and Mac.

WD97= MS Word version 8, which was released in 1997 for Windows and in
1998
for Mac (aka WD98).

Next version (v 14) will be called "WD2009" or "WD2010" depending on
when it
is de facto released. Current bets are around end of 2009, start of 2010.
Probably with Windows 7. The late nov 2009 PDC so close on the heels
of the
2008 PDC is definitively a hint of many major product releases...

/S

File converts with lot of odd chars: e.g. þ4 € ] € ] Ã. Is
there som > way
to
convert the docs without having to install WD97 and try again?

What is "WD6" and "WD97"?

 

[SergeRD]

Just to end this thread. The only solution was to find an old copy of word. I
found an old mac in my father-in-law's cellar that had Mac Word 5 on it,
which format can be read by newer vesions and, more importantly, can read Mac
3 files.

What is most irritating is that the Word icon is shown for these old files,
thus creating the impression that they are ok. :-(

I also found a great KB article intitled "WD: History WinWord File
Converters categorized by Release" that confirmed that WinWord only supports
MacWord v 4 and newer.

/S