Web Design but not FP related

M. Anderson · Jun 17, 2004

I have Photoshop and Fireworks.

I am trying to get a person out of a picture and have it look clean. I have used the lasso tools in both programs. They seem to be pretty hard and particular especially the magnetic lasso tool in P.S.

Is there any tips or tricks that I am missing or is it just plain difficult to get an person surrounded by many objects out of a picture "cleanly".

Here is an example page www.bighousefootball.com with great cropping. The football players look like they weren't even on the field but had a special photo shoot with a blank backround. The problem is I have these same exact pictures and they are from real games.

Any words of wisdom will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
M. Anderson

Tom Pepper Willett · Jun 17, 2004

Since it's not FP related, I would suggest looking at the support options
for Photshop and Fireworks, including their newsgroups.
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| I have Photoshop and Fireworks.
|
| I am trying to get a person out of a picture and have it look clean. I
have used the lasso tools in both programs. They seem to be pretty hard and
particular especially the magnetic lasso tool in P.S.
|
| Is there any tips or tricks that I am missing or is it just plain
difficult to get an person surrounded by many objects out of a picture
"cleanly".
|
| Here is an example page www.bighousefootball.com with great cropping. The
football players look like they weren't even on the field but had a special
photo shoot with a blank backround. The problem is I have these same exact
pictures and they are from real games.
|
| Any words of wisdom will be greatly appreciated.
|
| Thanks,
| M. Anderson
|

Craig Schiller · Jun 17, 2004

Wouldn't you be better off asking this in a Photoshop newsgroup?

Craig

chris leeds · Jun 17, 2004

looked at your pictures. it's the lasso tool you need. try zooming in on
the picture before you go to it with the lasso. I'm not sure about
Photoshop but Photoimpact has a setting for "soft edge" which helps with
sharp edges after the cut-out.

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M. Anderson said:
I have Photoshop and Fireworks.

I am trying to get a person out of a picture and have it look clean. I

have used the lasso tools in both programs. They seem to be pretty hard and
particular especially the magnetic lasso tool in P.S.

Is there any tips or tricks that I am missing or is it just plain

difficult to get an person surrounded by many objects out of a picture
"cleanly".

Here is an example page www.bighousefootball.com with great cropping. The

football players look like they weren't even on the field but had a special
photo shoot with a blank backround. The problem is I have these same exact
pictures and they are from real games.

Andrew Murray · Jun 17, 2004

isn't that the same as 'anti-aliasing' in Photoshop which 'smooths' out the edges
of images with a kind of gradient effect, slightly different shads of the same
colour or near colour eg black/grey.

You may need to zoom in to say 400% and manually select pixels as close to the
each of the area you want or select the area you want, then erase everything else
around it (do this 'roughly' then do the tidy up afterwards. I think it's like
an option called 'inverse selection' or something - I use photoshop very rarely.

Anyway it should be under the selection options.

auerbach · Jun 17, 2004

In Photoshop 6 and later, use the "area-select" tool that best fits the
image -- polygon, rectangle, freehand, point-to-point, etc. When you click
on this tool, the menu at the top of the screen will include a "feather"
option. The larger you make this, the more the area you select will
"feather" into the adjacent areas of the image, meaning the less crisp the
cut-out will be. If you feather at two or three pixels, you should get the
effect you want.
Once you remove the portion of the image you don't want (the person you
want out, in this case) you still have to figure out what will replace that
area of the image. You may be able to "clone" other portions of the
background and paste them in to the empty area -- again using feathering, so
the cloned areas blend together.
Next, paste the picture into a web page and publish it with FrontPage
2003 -- just to make this post OK for this newsgroup. (g)

Alex

M. Anderson said:
I have Photoshop and Fireworks.

I am trying to get a person out of a picture and have it look clean. I

have used the lasso tools in both programs. They seem to be pretty hard and
particular especially the magnetic lasso tool in P.S.

Is there any tips or tricks that I am missing or is it just plain

difficult to get an person surrounded by many objects out of a picture
"cleanly".

Here is an example page www.bighousefootball.com with great cropping. The

football players look like they weren't even on the field but had a special
photo shoot with a blank backround. The problem is I have these same exact
pictures and they are from real games.

Wally S · Jun 17, 2004

I don't use the full Photoshop, but I understand that it has a sort of
selecting pencil, which I have seen others use. After you have selected your
object, you can zoom in on it and tweak the selection edges with the pencil.

Wally S

M. Anderson said:
I have Photoshop and Fireworks.

I am trying to get a person out of a picture and have it look clean. I

have used the lasso tools in both programs. They seem to be pretty hard and
particular especially the magnetic lasso tool in P.S.

Is there any tips or tricks that I am missing or is it just plain

difficult to get an person surrounded by many objects out of a picture
"cleanly".

Here is an example page www.bighousefootball.com with great cropping. The

football players look like they weren't even on the field but had a special
photo shoot with a blank backround. The problem is I have these same exact
pictures and they are from real games.

chris leeds · Jun 18, 2004

I don't think it's the same as ant but it's sort of similar. it's more of
an edge blur.

Crash Gordon® · Jun 18, 2004

You can try the magnetic lasso tool and set the feathering for maybe 2 px. Then copy to new layer - make the original layer invisible and they mess around with the copied layer. You will probably need to experiment with magnetic lasso, the regular lasso, the stamp tool, and the eraser.

It also depends on your level of expertise with using PS, and the orignal image...if the bg is too complex you might have to spend a lot of time with it learning how to do it.

If you get stumped, lemme know.

| I have Photoshop and Fireworks.
|
| I am trying to get a person out of a picture and have it look clean. I have used the lasso tools in both programs. They seem to be pretty hard and particular especially the magnetic lasso tool in P.S.
|
| Is there any tips or tricks that I am missing or is it just plain difficult to get an person surrounded by many objects out of a picture "cleanly".
|
| Here is an example page www.bighousefootball.com with great cropping. The football players look like they weren't even on the field but had a special photo shoot with a blank backround. The problem is I have these same exact pictures and they are from real games.
|
| Any words of wisdom will be greatly appreciated.
|
| Thanks,
| M. Anderson
|

chris leeds · Jun 18, 2004

I'm looking at buying a tool just for knock-outs that looks real promising.
it's from Corel I think it's called Knock-out2 or something like that.
Looks to do a better job than either photo impact or photo shop.

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message You can try the magnetic lasso tool and set the feathering for maybe 2 px.
Then copy to new layer - make the original layer invisible and they mess
around with the copied layer. You will probably need to experiment with
magnetic lasso, the regular lasso, the stamp tool, and the eraser.

It also depends on your level of expertise with using PS, and the orignal
image...if the bg is too complex you might have to spend a lot of time with
it learning how to do it.

If you get stumped, lemme know.

| I have Photoshop and Fireworks.
|
| I am trying to get a person out of a picture and have it look clean. I
have used the lasso tools in both programs. They seem to be pretty hard and
particular especially the magnetic lasso tool in P.S.
|
| Is there any tips or tricks that I am missing or is it just plain
difficult to get an person surrounded by many objects out of a picture
"cleanly".
|
| Here is an example page www.bighousefootball.com with great cropping. The
football players look like they weren't even on the field but had a special
photo shoot with a blank backround. The problem is I have these same exact
pictures and they are from real games.
|
| Any words of wisdom will be greatly appreciated.
|
| Thanks,
| M. Anderson
|

Crash Gordon® · Jun 18, 2004

Adobe Streamline is a great outline chooser, but I can't find it cheap anywhere.

They call it knockout? Knockout usually refers to print stuff.
Lemme know how you like it.

I still use Photoshop for 99% of my stuff. Although I'm thinking of buying PhotoElements 2...its really nice for webstuff...and Walmart's has it for like 58 bucks.

laterz

R.

| I'm looking at buying a tool just for knock-outs that looks real promising.
| it's from Corel I think it's called Knock-out2 or something like that.
| Looks to do a better job than either photo impact or photo shop.
|
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| message | You can try the magnetic lasso tool and set the feathering for maybe 2 px.
| Then copy to new layer - make the original layer invisible and they mess
| around with the copied layer. You will probably need to experiment with
| magnetic lasso, the regular lasso, the stamp tool, and the eraser.
|
| It also depends on your level of expertise with using PS, and the orignal
| image...if the bg is too complex you might have to spend a lot of time with
| it learning how to do it.
|
| If you get stumped, lemme know.
|
|
| | | I have Photoshop and Fireworks.
| |
| | I am trying to get a person out of a picture and have it look clean. I
| have used the lasso tools in both programs. They seem to be pretty hard and
| particular especially the magnetic lasso tool in P.S.
| |
| | Is there any tips or tricks that I am missing or is it just plain
| difficult to get an person surrounded by many objects out of a picture
| "cleanly".
| |
| | Here is an example page www.bighousefootball.com with great cropping. The
| football players look like they weren't even on the field but had a special
| photo shoot with a blank backround. The problem is I have these same exact
| pictures and they are from real games.
| |
| | Any words of wisdom will be greatly appreciated.
| |
| | Thanks,
| | M. Anderson
| |
|
|

Crash Gordon® · Jun 19, 2004

Looks like Knockout2 is a Photoshop plug in,,,, 100 smackers - and no trial version. If you find a trial lemme know.

| I'm looking at buying a tool just for knock-outs that looks real promising.
| it's from Corel I think it's called Knock-out2 or something like that.
| Looks to do a better job than either photo impact or photo shop.
|
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| spam.
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|
| message | You can try the magnetic lasso tool and set the feathering for maybe 2 px.
| Then copy to new layer - make the original layer invisible and they mess
| around with the copied layer. You will probably need to experiment with
| magnetic lasso, the regular lasso, the stamp tool, and the eraser.
|
| It also depends on your level of expertise with using PS, and the orignal
| image...if the bg is too complex you might have to spend a lot of time with
| it learning how to do it.
|
| If you get stumped, lemme know.
|
|
| | | I have Photoshop and Fireworks.
| |
| | I am trying to get a person out of a picture and have it look clean. I
| have used the lasso tools in both programs. They seem to be pretty hard and
| particular especially the magnetic lasso tool in P.S.
| |
| | Is there any tips or tricks that I am missing or is it just plain
| difficult to get an person surrounded by many objects out of a picture
| "cleanly".
| |
| | Here is an example page www.bighousefootball.com with great cropping. The
| football players look like they weren't even on the field but had a special
| photo shoot with a blank backround. The problem is I have these same exact
| pictures and they are from real games.
| |
| | Any words of wisdom will be greatly appreciated.
| |
| | Thanks,
| | M. Anderson
| |
|
|

chris leeds · Jun 19, 2004

I got a "special offer" of that tool plus a bunch of other nice stuff for
$200. my hesitation is whether I should buy something else while I've got a
pile of stuff I haven't even messed with on hand. ;-)

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message Looks like Knockout2 is a Photoshop plug in,,,, 100 smackers - and no trial
version. If you find a trial lemme know.

| I'm looking at buying a tool just for knock-outs that looks real
promising.
| it's from Corel I think it's called Knock-out2 or something like that.
| Looks to do a better job than either photo impact or photo shop.
|
| --
| The email address on this posting is a "black hole". I got tired of all
the
| spam.
| Please feel free to contact me here:
| http://nedp.net/contact/
| --
|
|
| message | You can try the magnetic lasso tool and set the feathering for maybe 2 px.
| Then copy to new layer - make the original layer invisible and they mess
| around with the copied layer. You will probably need to experiment with
| magnetic lasso, the regular lasso, the stamp tool, and the eraser.
|
| It also depends on your level of expertise with using PS, and the orignal
| image...if the bg is too complex you might have to spend a lot of time
with
| it learning how to do it.
|
| If you get stumped, lemme know.
|
|
| | | I have Photoshop and Fireworks.
| |
| | I am trying to get a person out of a picture and have it look clean. I
| have used the lasso tools in both programs. They seem to be pretty hard
and
| particular especially the magnetic lasso tool in P.S.
| |
| | Is there any tips or tricks that I am missing or is it just plain
| difficult to get an person surrounded by many objects out of a picture
| "cleanly".
| |
| | Here is an example page www.bighousefootball.com with great cropping.
The
| football players look like they weren't even on the field but had a
special
| photo shoot with a blank backround. The problem is I have these same
exact
| pictures and they are from real games.
| |
| | Any words of wisdom will be greatly appreciated.
| |
| | Thanks,
| | M. Anderson
| |
|
|

Crash Gordon® · Jun 19, 2004

You mean like the copy of FP 2003 I have sitting on my desk?...and let's see what else we got here ...hmmmm Photochop CS....

Web Design but not FP related

M. Anderson

Tom Pepper Willett

Craig Schiller

chris leeds

Andrew Murray

auerbach

Wally S

chris leeds

Crash Gordon®

chris leeds

Crash Gordon®

Crash Gordon®

chris leeds

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