Web design in publisher

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polly777

Can anyone help me (in simple language) how to make my web design take up
whole width of the screen and not just a left hand section with white space
down the right hand side.
many thanks
polly
 
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Don Schmidt

This can be done but you won't like the answer.

You will need to change the display settings to 800x600, could be less on
all of the computers you want the monitors to be filled.

Publisher creates left justified sans dynamic sizing or centering.

I'm hoping Microsoft changes this with the next release of Publisher.
 
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polly777

thank you david but I have only got publisher 2000 and I can't find how to
get into the page setup dialog. when I press file and page setup, it bring up
a dialog box that does not have layout tabs on it. Am I being more stupid
than normal
 
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DavidF

No problem...the dialog box just looks different for a web page, than a
print page. When you go to File > Page Setup you will get a dialog box that
has three settings: Standard, Wide and Custom under Page Width. If you check
Custom then you can type in any width and height under Page Size. The Wide
setting will suffice for most people and you can have the length be most
anything, as the HTML page that is produced will be only as long as the last
element you have on your page.

While I do have some pages set to REALLY wide pages for panoramic pictures,
I have most of my pages set to 7.92" by 48". The width translates to 760
pixels wide on screen, and that is about as wide as I want to go, so it will
not require scrolling on a 800 pixel monitor...and so that if someone wants
to print my page, it will still easily fit within the default minimum
margins of most printers. Any wider and part of the page will not print.

Another tip...don't try to resize an existing page. It can wreck havoc on
your spacing. Instead setup a new blank web page, open a second instance of
Publisher with your existing pages, group all the content, copy and then
paste onto the new page. Move the content around, and then ungroup when you
get it setup the way you want.

And FWIW, be glad that you are using Pub 2000. Most here feel it is the best
version for producing web pages. Its the version Don and I both use for web
pages...

DavidF
 
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CWhit

I am not as accomplished as the experts who post here and don't pretend to
be. When I designed my web pages I noticed just as you did that a full page
in Publisher wasn't really a full page on the web. So I just made all the
elements of my page hang out a little bit over the right margin of the page:
filled rectangles, text boxes, pictures, maps, etc., all neatly lined up of
course as if they were justified. When viewed on the web they fill the page
perfectly. Maybe this is a dumb thing to do but it sure looks good.
 
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DavidF

CWhit,

You come from experience, and trial and terror, so your suggestions are just
as valuable as anyone else's around here. Jump right in and help out...the
more the merrier.

Are you saying that you align all those elements into the scratch area, off
the page?

DavidF
 
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CWhit

Did I let elements intrude into the scratch area? Yes, but only enough so
that the page when viewed as a web page would fill the screen, not enough to
cause a problem saving the pages to the web. Just a sort of intuitive thing
that seemed to work and caused no problems.
 
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DavidF

Hummm, I guess I'll have to experiment with that, but generally that is one
of the prime reasons people have problems uploading their pages. If an
image, for example, is hanging out in the gray area, the coding engine can
choke, not knowing how to produce the HTML. But like I said, perhaps I have
learned something new, which believe it or not, is the main reason I hang
out around here. Thanks for posting back

How far do you let the elements overlap into the gray area? Have you found a
limit? When you say it fills the screen, what resolution is your screen? You
do know that you can vary the width of a page through page setup? What width
do you have your pages set at? Inquiring minds wanna learn ;-)

DavidF
 
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CWhit

My screen resolution is 800x600, and 760px wide. I've extended the right
margin to 773px. The first time I did this I ran Design Checker and found no
problem, so I continued. I've had a couple of problems uploading pages --
principal reason I joined this newsgroup -- but none were related to this
overlap. It is not very large as you can see, and all it does is fill the
little gap on the right when you scroll over in fullscreen mode. The main
reason I did it originally was not to fill the gap but to make a little more
room so I could put my navigation bar on one line.
 
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DavidF

thanks CWhit. Good to know. If you ever do run into problems, you can change
the width of your page through the custom page setup. I have one page on my
site that is 31 inches wide or about 3000 pixels X 625, to accommodate a
landscape picture I built. And yes, you do have to scroll just a bit ;-)

DavidF
 
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CWhit

My solution worked for me, but at the time I didn't think about creating a
custom size page in Page Setup. It would've saved me a lot of work in making
all those rectangles and text boxes line up accurately. If I add pages I'll
just customize my pages as you suggest. Thanks again for a great tip.
 
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DavidF

If you do decide to try something like this be aware that I have built my
site using multiple Publisher files and linking them together. You can't
change the width of just one page within a Publisher file, and I certainly
wouldn't want all my pages to be that wide. Also, I found that I was less
likely to have problems with the spacing of the page elements if I open a
second instance of Publisher, created the blank pages of the new custom
size, then Ctrl + A to select all the elements on the original page, group
them together, and then copy and pasted into the new page...move the group
around until I got everything where I wanted it, and then ungrouped. That
way everything stayed aligned as I had it originally. Yeah, you can learn
all kinds of things through trial and terror. }:>)

DavidF
 
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CWhit

I guess I knew that, having created dozens of PowerPoint presentations. But
how did you incorporate your super-wide 3000px page into your web site?
 
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DavidF

One of the limitations of using Pub 2000 is you are limited to 10 pages on
the navbar. When I outgrew that I started using a third party app to build
my navbar, have each page set up to import the navbar, and started breaking
my site up by producing different sections, and even particular pages such
as the super-wide page, in separate Pub docs. I then upload them to
different folders on my site, and link them all together. David Bartosik has
a good article describing this: Building a web site with multiple Publisher
web publication files
http://msmvps.com/blogs/dbartosik/articles/81264.aspx

It is handy for me especially as I have a few sections that I do change at
least monthly...statistics and trends, etc., so I need only change that
particular part of my site.

DavidF
 
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