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ron b

Hello,
I am totally new to FrontPage and web design. I was assigned to manage and
update our company intranet web site, which is on FrontPage 2000. I will be
going to training in December, but I am trying to learn as much as possible
before hand. While checking the mechanics of the web site I entered "Web
Settings" and discovered something that is puzzling to me. Under web
settings the general tab, the server version listed says " No server
currently in use". Does this mean the web is published without a server? The
web can be accessed through our network places. I cannot get the home page
to open automatically, and the search form doesn't work. Is this because
there is no server?
 
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Thomas A. Rowe

Unless you are opening the web via http:// locally, there is no server in use.

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Steve Easton

What is the address or "file path" that shows in the browser address bar when you are viewing the
web??
Is it C:\something\something or is it http://something/something ?

If C:\something it is being viewed as a disc based web as a shared file or resource. If http:// it
is being "served" by a web server of some sort.


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Steve Easton

Just saw your other reply.
Your web is disk based on a file server.
There is no "web server" involved.

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ron b

It opens with http://rhi101. When it opens it shows the directory, not the
home page. That is true also when I open it through our network places. If
it is on a file server, is there anything I can do to make the features work?
 
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Steve Easton

You need to make sure the home page file name is what is required by the server. Most likely either
index.html or default.html

When opening as a file location such as file/// it will always open as a directory in folder view
unless the path is to a specific file within the web folder.

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ron b

Thank you Steve,

I am still a little confused. Am I published to a file server, or a web
server? I can reach the web either by D:\\rhi101\atchome or
http://rhi101/atchome. I hate to seem like a dunce, I'm not normally. I
tried both Index.htm and default.htm to open the home page automatically but
neither worked. I don't understand what you mean when you say "when opening
as a file location". Can I change how it opens? My goal would be for the home
page to open after typing rhi101/ atchome, as opposed to
rhi101/atchome/index.htm.
 
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Rick Budde

Normally, when you develop a website using Front Page,
the site is stored on your computer in s special folder
called a "Web". Webs are created for you by Front Page
when you do a File | New | Web. A single web will contain
everything that will eventually be on your site ... web
pages, text content, pictures, hyperlinks, etc.

The significance of a Front Page web is that Front Page
will handle many things for you during your site building
experience. For instance, if you decide to rename a page,
Front Page will search through all of the hyperlinks that
reference that page and automatically change the
references for you.

After you have finished your website, the next step is to
publish your site to a server that is connected to the
WWW so that anyone can acess your site. During this
publishing process (File | Publish) Front Page will copy
all of the necessary files that reside on your PC for
your website from your PC to the server.

Publishing is accomplished in one of two ways: "http"
or "ftp". The http approach is easiest but requires that
the host server supports the Front Page Extensions and
has them enabled on your account.

I started the above description by stating "normally".
From the post of one of the other folks, it looks like
your website development is done directly on the
server "live". While this can be done, it is a better
practice to use the "normal" approach described above.
One of the biggest reasons for my statement is that it
forces you to have a backup of your site. If you work
live and the server crashes, you do not have a backup
copy on your PC. If you work in the normal fashion and
either your PC or the server crashes, you can simply
publish from the surviving site back to the crashed site.

With respect to your requirement that a visitor access
your site by typing http://rhi101/atchome, what Steve is
saying is that if your home page is named using the
conventions of your host (index.htm, default.htm, or
whatever), you will not force the user to include
index.htm or default.htm in the website address, hence
the term "default" home page name. The server will
default to that name and it will not need to be included
in the web address.

I hope this clears things up for you. I would also
strongly suggest that you stop by your favorite bookstore
and pick up a copy of a book that covers your version of
Front Page. "Microsoft Front Page 200x Inside Out" by Jim
Buyens would be an excellent choice.
 
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ron b

,Thank you Rob and Rick,
Rob the address is as you have it below. Rick I have named the home page
with both the FrontPage home page names "Index.htm" and "default.htm, at
separate times. Neither seemed to work, so I must be doing something wrong.
When you name your home page as noted above, is FrontPage supposed to include
it in the published address where you can see it? In other words when the
user types in http://rhi101/atchome, is the home page name "Index.htm" or
"default.htm" supposed to pop in automatically? Could my problem be something
other than the renaming of the home page? Could there be a problem with the
way the web was originally published, the server, the FrontPage extensions?
If so how do I back check to eliminate the problems?
 
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Ronx

What Operating System does the server use? If it is a Unix system then CaSe
sensitivity comes into play - index.htm is not the same as Index.htm
Have you also tried index.html or default.html?

Can you get the home page name from the server administrator?
 
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ron b

Hi Ronx,
The operating system is Windows NT. I tried combinations of Index.htm,
index.html,index.htm, default.htm, Default.html and it still did not work.
The home page name is Home.htm. I copied it and changed the name as noted
above. I still must be doing something wrong. Any other suggestions?
 
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Ronx

If the admins say the page should be named Home.htm, then rename the home
page to Home.htm

The name of the home page is set by the server set up; while index and
default are the most common, any other name can be used as well, provided
the server is set up to use it.
 
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ron b

That is the name I started with, and it doesn't open when the site opens. The
site opens to a directory. Is there a way to repair the web site, short of
rebuilding the whole thing? How do I check the server set up? Is that
possible?
 
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Ronx

Yes, you can check the server setup. I am not acquainted with IIS4, (the
server normally running on WinNT) but you could ask in the inetserver.iis
newsgroup.
 
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