web slide show

H

Hugh Welford

Hi, I have to produce a slide show of 60 slides with 35minutes narration to
be played from a web page. I have tried doing this in Premiere, exporting as
a quickstart quicktime movie, and embedding on the page using FP2000, but it
is not very satisfactory. Is there a standard procedure for doing this sort
of this? Any advice would be welcome.

Thanks a lot Hugh
 
J

JL Amerson

My FAVORITE slide show is created with Photoshop Elements. It creates a full
screen picture and you can change the way it transitions from one picture to
the next. And the really cool thing is that it's in a .pdf format. No
downloading other programs.

(Just for the record, I don't have QuickTime, nor do I want it. If something
requires me to use it, I move on tosomething else. Ditto for Real Player. I
have enough programs similar to them as it is - I don't need one/two more.)
--

JoAnn

Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on
your computer.
--Bruce Graham
 
J

Jim Buyens

Personally, I would:
o Create a database table with fields for a sequence number,
picture file name, sound file name, sound file duration,
page title, and picture description.
o Write an ASP or ASP.NET page that receives a sequence
number from the URL query string, and then displays the
corresponding page (inserting the picture file name, sound
file name, sound file duration, page title, and picture description).
o Include the sound file duration in a META Refresh tag that links
to the next sequence number.

This has the advantage of not requiring any third-party components or
programs, and of making it easy to edit any particular page or sound file.

The disadvantage is that you'd need to do a little bit of programming.

--
Jim Buyens
Microsoft FrontPage MVP
http://www.interlacken.com
Author of:
*----------------------------------------------------
|\---------------------------------------------------
|| Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003 Inside Out
||---------------------------------------------------
|| Web Database Development Step by Step .NET Edition
|| Microsoft FrontPage Version 2002 Inside Out
|| Faster Smarter Beginning Programming
|| (All from Microsoft Press)
|/---------------------------------------------------
*----------------------------------------------------
 
C

Crash Gordon

Jim...

point me in the right direction...this is exactly what I want to do. I'm sick of picture albums that generate hundreds of extra html pages.

tell me where/what I need to learn so I can do this!

Thanks!

Rob


| Personally, I would:
| o Create a database table with fields for a sequence number,
| picture file name, sound file name, sound file duration,
| page title, and picture description.
| o Write an ASP or ASP.NET page that receives a sequence
| number from the URL query string, and then displays the
| corresponding page (inserting the picture file name, sound
| file name, sound file duration, page title, and picture description).
| o Include the sound file duration in a META Refresh tag that links
| to the next sequence number.
|
| This has the advantage of not requiring any third-party components or
| programs, and of making it easy to edit any particular page or sound file.
|
| The disadvantage is that you'd need to do a little bit of programming.
|
| --
| Jim Buyens
| Microsoft FrontPage MVP
| http://www.interlacken.com
| Author of:
| *----------------------------------------------------
| |\---------------------------------------------------
| || Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003 Inside Out
| ||---------------------------------------------------
| || Web Database Development Step by Step .NET Edition
| || Microsoft FrontPage Version 2002 Inside Out
| || Faster Smarter Beginning Programming
| || (All from Microsoft Press)
| |/---------------------------------------------------
| *----------------------------------------------------
|
|
| | > Hi, I have to produce a slide show of 60 slides with 35minutes narration
| to
| > be played from a web page. I have tried doing this in Premiere, exporting
| as
| > a quickstart quicktime movie, and embedding on the page using FP2000, but
| it
| > is not very satisfactory. Is there a standard procedure for doing this
| sort
| > of this? Any advice would be welcome.
| >
| > Thanks a lot Hugh
| >
| >
|
|
 
H

Hugh Welford

Thanks JoAnn very interesting Hugh

JL Amerson said:
My FAVORITE slide show is created with Photoshop Elements. It creates a full
screen picture and you can change the way it transitions from one picture to
the next. And the really cool thing is that it's in a .pdf format. No
downloading other programs.

(Just for the record, I don't have QuickTime, nor do I want it. If something
requires me to use it, I move on tosomething else. Ditto for Real Player. I
have enough programs similar to them as it is - I don't need one/two more.)
--

JoAnn

Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on
your computer.
--Bruce Graham




exporting but
 
H

Hugh Welford

Now theres a thought, but presumably the sound file will have to be
downloaded into the browser before playing, thereby interrupting
continuity??

Hugh
 
J

Jim Buyens

This is a clear case of, "Pay me now," vs. "Pay me later."

Yes, there will be a small delay while waiting for each page's sound
file to download.

But with other solutions, there'll be a *big* delay while waiting for
an all-encompassing sound file to download.

Personally, I'd go for the least delay possible on the first slide,
becuase that's where the visitior is most likely to get bored and
drift away. But the choice is yours.

Either way, you want to tune those sound files for minimum size.

Jim Buyens
Microsoft FrontPage MVP
http://www.interlacken.com
Author of:
*----------------------------------------------------
|\---------------------------------------------------
|| Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003 Inside Out
||---------------------------------------------------
|| Web Database Development Step by Step .NET Edition
|| Microsoft FrontPage Version 2002 Inside Out
|| Faster Smarter Beginning Programming
|| (All from Microsoft Press)
|/---------------------------------------------------
*----------------------------------------------------
 
J

Jim Buyens

Well, you set up a table like this:

seq picfil soundfile duration pagetitle picdesc
--- ------------- ------------ -------- ----------
--------------------
005 driveweay.jpg driveway.wav 15 Loading Up Here we are
loading
our baggage into
the car.
017 freeway.jpg freeway2.wav 13 En Route We're on the way
to the
airport.
026 thegate.jpg thegate.wav 21 Hung Up Our flight was
delayed.
034 arrival.jpg arrival3.wav 29 We Arrive! Finally in
Madagascar!

The code to display this is a bit much for a newsgroup posting, but
its pretty basic ASP/ADO (or ASP.NET/ADO.NET) stuff. You expect the
requesting URL to contain a sequence number (as in
href="slidewhow.asp?seq=17"), and then you use that number to get the
corresponding record from the database. (If there *is* no seq= number,
you get the first record.)

Then, you plug the content data into the HTML. The only tricky part
here is that you want the meta refresh tag to contain the *next*
sequence number. This means you have to save the information you want
from the exact record you retrieved, then move to the next record to
get the next sequence number.

Minor complications also occur when you get "not found" conditions.
For example, while displaying the last page, there will be no next
sequence number. You would have to write extra code that detects this
condition and then restarts the show, or reverts to a home page, or
whatever.

Jim Buyens
Microsoft FrontPage MVP
http://www.interlacken.com
Author of:
*----------------------------------------------------
|\---------------------------------------------------
|| Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003 Inside Out
||---------------------------------------------------
|| Web Database Development Step by Step .NET Edition
|| Microsoft FrontPage Version 2002 Inside Out
|| Faster Smarter Beginning Programming
|| (All from Microsoft Press)
|/---------------------------------------------------
*----------------------------------------------------
 
C

Crash Gordon

Jim...
Your going to fast for me right now. I just need to know what I should learn to be able to do this...not ready for HOW :)

I was thinking MySQL and PHP ??? (neither of which I know...yet)

Yes, we're headed beyond the scope of this ng...but I need a guru just to tell me where/what I need to spend time learning.

Email me privately if/when you have time...I'll expound upon my idear.

Robo
| Well, you set up a table like this:
|
| seq picfil soundfile duration pagetitle picdesc
| --- ------------- ------------ -------- ----------
| --------------------
| 005 driveweay.jpg driveway.wav 15 Loading Up Here we are
| loading
| our baggage into
| the car.
| 017 freeway.jpg freeway2.wav 13 En Route We're on the way
| to the
| airport.
| 026 thegate.jpg thegate.wav 21 Hung Up Our flight was
| delayed.
| 034 arrival.jpg arrival3.wav 29 We Arrive! Finally in
| Madagascar!
|
| The code to display this is a bit much for a newsgroup posting, but
| its pretty basic ASP/ADO (or ASP.NET/ADO.NET) stuff. You expect the
| requesting URL to contain a sequence number (as in
| href="slidewhow.asp?seq=17"), and then you use that number to get the
| corresponding record from the database. (If there *is* no seq= number,
| you get the first record.)
|
| Then, you plug the content data into the HTML. The only tricky part
| here is that you want the meta refresh tag to contain the *next*
| sequence number. This means you have to save the information you want
| from the exact record you retrieved, then move to the next record to
| get the next sequence number.
|
| Minor complications also occur when you get "not found" conditions.
| For example, while displaying the last page, there will be no next
| sequence number. You would have to write extra code that detects this
| condition and then restarts the show, or reverts to a home page, or
| whatever.
|
| Jim Buyens
| Microsoft FrontPage MVP
| http://www.interlacken.com
| Author of:
| *----------------------------------------------------
| |\---------------------------------------------------
| || Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003 Inside Out
| ||---------------------------------------------------
| || Web Database Development Step by Step .NET Edition
| || Microsoft FrontPage Version 2002 Inside Out
| || Faster Smarter Beginning Programming
| || (All from Microsoft Press)
| |/---------------------------------------------------
| *----------------------------------------------------
|
|
|
|
| > Jim...
| >
| > point me in the right direction...this is exactly what I want to do. I'm
| > sick of picture albums that generate hundreds of extra HTML pages.
| >
| > tell me where/what I need to learn so I can do this!
| >
| > Thanks!
| >
| > Rob
| >
| >
| > | > | Personally, I would:
| > | o Create a database table with fields for a sequence number,
| > | picture file name, sound file name, sound file duration,
| > | page title, and picture description.
| > | o Write an ASP or ASP.NET page that receives a sequence
| > | number from the URL query string, and then displays the
| > | corresponding page (inserting the picture file name, sound
| > | file name, sound file duration, page title, and picture
| > description).
| > | o Include the sound file duration in a META Refresh tag that links
| > | to the next sequence number.
| > |
| > | This has the advantage of not requiring any third-party components or
| > | programs, and of making it easy to edit any particular page or sound
| > file.
| > |
| > | The disadvantage is that you'd need to do a little bit of programming.
| > |
| > | --
| > | Jim Buyens
| > | Microsoft FrontPage MVP
| > | http://www.interlacken.com
| > | Author of:
| > | *----------------------------------------------------
| > | |\---------------------------------------------------
| > | || Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003 Inside Out
| > | ||---------------------------------------------------
| > | || Web Database Development Step by Step .NET Edition
| > | || Microsoft FrontPage Version 2002 Inside Out
| > | || Faster Smarter Beginning Programming
| > | || (All from Microsoft Press)
| > | |/---------------------------------------------------
| > | *----------------------------------------------------
| > |
| > |
| > | | > | > Hi, I have to produce a slide show of 60 slides with 35minutes
| > narration
| > to
| > | > be played from a web page. I have tried doing this in Premiere,
| > exporting
| > as
| > | > a quickstart quicktime movie, and embedding on the page using
| > FP2000, but
| > it
| > | > is not very satisfactory. Is there a standard procedure for doing
| > this
| > sort
| > | > of this? Any advice would be welcome.
| > | >
| > | > Thanks a lot Hugh
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
 
H

Hugh Welford

thanks a million Jim - really appreciated
Hugh


Jim Buyens said:
This is a clear case of, "Pay me now," vs. "Pay me later."

Yes, there will be a small delay while waiting for each page's sound
file to download.

But with other solutions, there'll be a *big* delay while waiting for
an all-encompassing sound file to download.

Personally, I'd go for the least delay possible on the first slide,
becuase that's where the visitior is most likely to get bored and
drift away. But the choice is yours.

Either way, you want to tune those sound files for minimum size.

Jim Buyens
Microsoft FrontPage MVP
http://www.interlacken.com
Author of:
*----------------------------------------------------
|\---------------------------------------------------
|| Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003 Inside Out
||---------------------------------------------------
|| Web Database Development Step by Step .NET Edition
|| Microsoft FrontPage Version 2002 Inside Out
|| Faster Smarter Beginning Programming
|| (All from Microsoft Press)
|/---------------------------------------------------
*----------------------------------------------------



"Hugh Welford" <[email protected]> wrote in message
 
J

Jim Buyens

If you need this to run on a Unix server then yes, PHP and MySQL are
probbly the direction to go.

Personbally, I prefer ASP.NET, or if that's not available, ASP.
However, those require a Windows Web server.

Jim Buyens
Microsoft FrontPage MVP
http://www.interlacken.com
Author of:
*----------------------------------------------------
|\---------------------------------------------------
|| Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003 Inside Out
||---------------------------------------------------
|| Web Database Development Step by Step .NET Edition
|| Microsoft FrontPage Version 2002 Inside Out
|| Faster Smarter Beginning Programming
|| (All from Microsoft Press)
|/---------------------------------------------------
*----------------------------------------------------
 
C

Crash Gordon

Apache/Linux server for a couple...not sure what the other three are, but that's academic since I'm gonna switch all my webs to my Apache guy (more personallized service - I like that)

So... have you written a book on this ? ;-)


Thanks!

rob


| If you need this to run on a Unix server then yes, PHP and MySQL are
| probbly the direction to go.
|
| Personbally, I prefer ASP.NET, or if that's not available, ASP.
| However, those require a Windows Web server.
|
| Jim Buyens
| Microsoft FrontPage MVP
| http://www.interlacken.com
| Author of:
| *----------------------------------------------------
| |\---------------------------------------------------
| || Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003 Inside Out
| ||---------------------------------------------------
| || Web Database Development Step by Step .NET Edition
| || Microsoft FrontPage Version 2002 Inside Out
| || Faster Smarter Beginning Programming
| || (All from Microsoft Press)
| |/---------------------------------------------------
| *----------------------------------------------------
|
|
|
| > Jim...
| > Your going to fast for me right now. I just need to know what I should
| > learn to be able to do this...not ready for HOW :)
| >
| > I was thinking MySQL and PHP ??? (neither of which I know...yet)
| >
| > Yes, we're headed beyond the scope of this ng...but I need a guru just
| > to tell me where/what I need to spend time learning.
| >
| > Email me privately if/when you have time...I'll expound upon my idear.
| >
| > Robo
| > | > | Well, you set up a table like this:
| > |
| > | seq picfil soundfile duration pagetitle picdesc
| > | --- ------------- ------------ -------- ----------
| > | --------------------
| > | 005 driveweay.jpg driveway.wav 15 Loading Up Here we are
| > | loading
| > | our baggage into
| > | the car.
| > | 017 freeway.jpg freeway2.wav 13 En Route We're on the way
| > | to the
| > | airport.
| > | 026 thegate.jpg thegate.wav 21 Hung Up Our flight was
| > | delayed.
| > | 034 arrival.jpg arrival3.wav 29 We Arrive! Finally in
| > | Madagascar!
| > |
| > | The code to display this is a bit much for a newsgroup posting, but
| > | its pretty basic ASP/ADO (or ASP.NET/ADO.NET) stuff. You expect the
| > | requesting URL to contain a sequence number (as in
| > | href="slidewhow.asp?seq=17"), and then you use that number to get
| > the
| > | corresponding record from the database. (If there *is* no seq=
| > number,
| > | you get the first record.)
| > |
| > | Then, you plug the content data into the HTML. The only tricky part
| > | here is that you want the meta refresh tag to contain the *next*
| > | sequence number. This means you have to save the information you want
| > | from the exact record you retrieved, then move to the next record to
| > | get the next sequence number.
| > |
| > | Minor complications also occur when you get "not found" conditions.
| > | For example, while displaying the last page, there will be no next
| > | sequence number. You would have to write extra code that detects this
| > | condition and then restarts the show, or reverts to a home page, or
| > | whatever.
| > |
| > | Jim Buyens
| > | Microsoft FrontPage MVP
| > | http://www.interlacken.com
| > | Author of:
| > | *----------------------------------------------------
| > | |\---------------------------------------------------
| > | || Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003 Inside Out
| > | ||---------------------------------------------------
| > | || Web Database Development Step by Step .NET Edition
| > | || Microsoft FrontPage Version 2002 Inside Out
| > | || Faster Smarter Beginning Programming
| > | || (All from Microsoft Press)
| > | |/---------------------------------------------------
| > | *----------------------------------------------------
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > | > | > Jim...
| > | >
| > | > point me in the right direction...this is exactly what I want to do.
| > I'm
| > | > sick of picture albums that generate hundreds of extra HTML pages.
| > | >
| > | > tell me where/what I need to learn so I can do this!
| > | >
| > | > Thanks!
| > | >
| > | > Rob
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > | > | > | Personally, I would:
| > | > | o Create a database table with fields for a sequence number,
| > | > | picture file name, sound file name, sound file duration,
| > | > | page title, and picture description.
| > | > | o Write an ASP or ASP.NET page that receives a sequence
| > | > | number from the URL query string, and then displays the
| > | > | corresponding page (inserting the picture file name, sound
| > | > | file name, sound file duration, page title, and picture
| > description).
| > | > | o Include the sound file duration in a META Refresh tag that links
| > | > | to the next sequence number.
| > | > |
| > | > | This has the advantage of not requiring any third-party components
| > or
| > | > | programs, and of making it easy to edit any particular page or
| > sound
| > file.
| > | > |
| > | > | The disadvantage is that you'd need to do a little bit of
| > programming.
| > | > |
| > | > | --
| > | > | Jim Buyens
| > | > | Microsoft FrontPage MVP
| > | > | http://www.interlacken.com
| > | > | Author of:
| > | > | *----------------------------------------------------
| > | > | |\---------------------------------------------------
| > | > | || Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003 Inside Out
| > | > | ||---------------------------------------------------
| > | > | || Web Database Development Step by Step .NET Edition
| > | > | || Microsoft FrontPage Version 2002 Inside Out
| > | > | || Faster Smarter Beginning Programming
| > | > | || (All from Microsoft Press)
| > | > | |/---------------------------------------------------
| > | > | *----------------------------------------------------
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > | | > | > | > Hi, I have to produce a slide show of 60 slides with 35minutes
| > | > narration
| > | > to
| > | > | > be played from a web page. I have tried doing this in Premiere,
| > | > exporting
| > | > as
| > | > | > a quickstart quicktime movie, and embedding on the page using
| > | > FP2000, but
| > | > it
| > | > | > is not very satisfactory. Is there a standard procedure for
| > doing
| > | > this
| > | > sort
| > | > | > of this? Any advice would be welcome.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Thanks a lot Hugh
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > |
| > | > |
 
J

Jim Buyens

About Apache, PHP, and MySql? No.

But for ASP, look for a copy of:
Web Database Development Step by Step

And for ASP.NET, try:
Web Database Development Step by Step .NET Edition

Jim Buyens
Microsoft FrontPage MVP
http://www.interlacken.com
Author of:
*----------------------------------------------------
|\---------------------------------------------------
|| Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003 Inside Out
||---------------------------------------------------
|| Web Database Development Step by Step .NET Edition
|| Microsoft FrontPage Version 2002 Inside Out
|| Faster Smarter Beginning Programming
|| (All from Microsoft Press)
|/---------------------------------------------------
*----------------------------------------------------
 
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