Website created with Publisher 2003. Mac users can view links

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Beth Clove

I have created a website using Publisher 2003. I see from other postings
that others have reported that Mac users have not been able to use their
website links. I have taken some of the steps suggested. I've gone into
Publisher tools > options > web tab and made sure "rely on VML..." and "allow
png..." was unchecked.

I've also downloaded Firefox and I've found that I can not use the
website link on my site.

Thanks for assistance.

Beth
 
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DavidF

Please post a link to your website, the URL, and tell us specifically what
links are not working.

DavidF
 
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DavidF

I suspect it is because you have grouped all your menu or navbar links with
the other objects in the left hand column, which turns it into an image, and
kills the links. Here is the image:
http://www.womenswalkwithchrist.org/index_files/image583.gif

Ungroup the links, and see if that doesn't fix the problem.

The Weekends, Registration, etc links are also dead...converted to an image.
Try ungrouping as a fix again, and if that doesn't work, try removing the
fill.

Any design technique that combines design elements into an image will kill
the links and distort the text. You can try to select the text on the web
page. If it is an image, you won't be able to do so. Then look for a reason
why it has been converted to an image. Besides grouping with other elements,
sometimes fill can do this, and sometimes using a non web ready font will be
converted to an image....

DavidF
 
B

Beth Clove

David,
Your ideas have been very helpful and I can navigate the links using
Foxfire. Your suggestion to download this browser was very helpful as it
allowed mw to see what was working and not working. Ungrouping and removing
fill on the boxes which contained links worked.

The only issue I have now is that I had to click on the logo/or home page
link to refresh the web link before the navigation links started working in
Fox Fire. I'm concerned that many Mac users won't know to do this. I added
a message on the home page however that page doesn't come up at first
connection only after the refresh. Your information thus far has been so
helpful. Any ideas on this one? Thanks!
Beth
 
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Rob Giordano \(Crash\)

That's probably because you were viewing cached pages - it's not behaving
like that here....try viewing your pages again. If it happens again try
hitting the F5 key.


--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Rob Giordano
Microsoft MVP Expression





| David,
| Your ideas have been very helpful and I can navigate the links using
| Foxfire. Your suggestion to download this browser was very helpful as it
| allowed mw to see what was working and not working. Ungrouping and
removing
| fill on the boxes which contained links worked.
|
| The only issue I have now is that I had to click on the logo/or home page
| link to refresh the web link before the navigation links started working
in
| Fox Fire. I'm concerned that many Mac users won't know to do this. I
added
| a message on the home page however that page doesn't come up at first
| connection only after the refresh. Your information thus far has been so
| helpful. Any ideas on this one? Thanks!
| Beth
|
| "Beth Clove" wrote:
|
| > Thank you very much for the ideas. I will work on your suggestions.
| > Beth
| >
| > "DavidF" wrote:
| >
| > > I suspect it is because you have grouped all your menu or navbar links
with
| > > the other objects in the left hand column, which turns it into an
image, and
| > > kills the links. Here is the image:
| > > http://www.womenswalkwithchrist.org/index_files/image583.gif
| > >
| > > Ungroup the links, and see if that doesn't fix the problem.
| > >
| > > The Weekends, Registration, etc links are also dead...converted to an
image.
| > > Try ungrouping as a fix again, and if that doesn't work, try removing
the
| > > fill.
| > >
| > > Any design technique that combines design elements into an image will
kill
| > > the links and distort the text. You can try to select the text on the
web
| > > page. If it is an image, you won't be able to do so. Then look for a
reason
| > > why it has been converted to an image. Besides grouping with other
elements,
| > > sometimes fill can do this, and sometimes using a non web ready font
will be
| > > converted to an image....
| > >
| > > DavidF
| > >
| > > | > > > Thank you for being willing to look at my website to assit me.
| > > > http://www.womenswalkwithchrist.org
| > > >
| > > > When I view it through foxfire, I can not move off of the home page
as Mac
| > > > users have reported. Here is the URL to the second page which is
one of
| > > > the
| > > > information pages they need to view.
| > > > http://www.womenswalkwithchrist.org/index_files/Page410.htm
| > > >
| > > > Beth
| > > >
| > > >
| > > > "DavidF" wrote:
| > > >
| > > >> Please post a link to your website, the URL, and tell us
specifically
| > > >> what
| > > >> links are not working.
| > > >>
| > > >> DavidF
| > > >>
message
| > > >> | > > >> >I have created a website using Publisher 2003. I see from other
| > > >> >postings
| > > >> > that others have reported that Mac users have not been able to
use
| > > >> > their
| > > >> > website links. I have taken some of the steps suggested. I've
gone
| > > >> > into
| > > >> > Publisher tools > options > web tab and made sure "rely on
VML..." and
| > > >> > "allow
| > > >> > png..." was unchecked.
| > > >> >
| > > >> > I've also downloaded Firefox and I've found that I can not use
the
| > > >> > website link on my site.
| > > >> >
| > > >> > Thanks for assistance.
| > > >> >
| > > >> > Beth
| > > >>
| > > >>
| > > >>
| > >
| > >
| > >
 
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DavidF

Beth,

Good to hear. But the Weekends, Registration, etc links are still dead in FF
when I view the page. Try removing the border, and perhaps you can add the
fill back in. Or, even more likely, reformat the information email address
that extends from the left hand column over that text box in FF, and under
that text box in IE. In this case it may not be either the fill or the
border. The trick for troubleshooting these things is to "deconstruct" the
design until you find the design element, technique or formatting that is
creating the problem. Try different combinations and direct the html files
to your computer where you can test the pages before you upload them.

I wouldn't worry about the cache problem. As Rob said, my view of the page
is the new page. Most browsers will automatically refresh and load new
content, most of the time...

DavidF
 
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Rob Giordano \(Crash\)

Works in my FF, did last night too...try F5

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Rob Giordano
Microsoft MVP Expression





| Beth,
|
| Good to hear. But the Weekends, Registration, etc links are still dead in
FF
| when I view the page. Try removing the border, and perhaps you can add the
| fill back in. Or, even more likely, reformat the information email address
| that extends from the left hand column over that text box in FF, and under
| that text box in IE. In this case it may not be either the fill or the
| border. The trick for troubleshooting these things is to "deconstruct" the
| design until you find the design element, technique or formatting that is
| creating the problem. Try different combinations and direct the html files
| to your computer where you can test the pages before you upload them.
|
| I wouldn't worry about the cache problem. As Rob said, my view of the page
| is the new page. Most browsers will automatically refresh and load new
| content, most of the time...
|
| DavidF
|
| | > David,
| > Your ideas have been very helpful and I can navigate the links using
| > Foxfire. Your suggestion to download this browser was very helpful as it
| > allowed mw to see what was working and not working. Ungrouping and
| > removing
| > fill on the boxes which contained links worked.
| >
| > The only issue I have now is that I had to click on the logo/or home
page
| > link to refresh the web link before the navigation links started working
| > in
| > Fox Fire. I'm concerned that many Mac users won't know to do this. I
| > added
| > a message on the home page however that page doesn't come up at first
| > connection only after the refresh. Your information thus far has been
so
| > helpful. Any ideas on this one? Thanks!
| > Beth
| >
| > "Beth Clove" wrote:
| >
| >> Thank you very much for the ideas. I will work on your suggestions.
| >> Beth
| >>
| >> "DavidF" wrote:
| >>
| >> > I suspect it is because you have grouped all your menu or navbar
links
| >> > with
| >> > the other objects in the left hand column, which turns it into an
| >> > image, and
| >> > kills the links. Here is the image:
| >> > http://www.womenswalkwithchrist.org/index_files/image583.gif
| >> >
| >> > Ungroup the links, and see if that doesn't fix the problem.
| >> >
| >> > The Weekends, Registration, etc links are also dead...converted to an
| >> > image.
| >> > Try ungrouping as a fix again, and if that doesn't work, try removing
| >> > the
| >> > fill.
| >> >
| >> > Any design technique that combines design elements into an image will
| >> > kill
| >> > the links and distort the text. You can try to select the text on the
| >> > web
| >> > page. If it is an image, you won't be able to do so. Then look for a
| >> > reason
| >> > why it has been converted to an image. Besides grouping with other
| >> > elements,
| >> > sometimes fill can do this, and sometimes using a non web ready font
| >> > will be
| >> > converted to an image....
| >> >
| >> > DavidF
| >> >
| >> > | >> > > Thank you for being willing to look at my website to assit me.
| >> > > http://www.womenswalkwithchrist.org
| >> > >
| >> > > When I view it through foxfire, I can not move off of the home page
| >> > > as Mac
| >> > > users have reported. Here is the URL to the second page which is
| >> > > one of
| >> > > the
| >> > > information pages they need to view.
| >> > > http://www.womenswalkwithchrist.org/index_files/Page410.htm
| >> > >
| >> > > Beth
| >> > >
| >> > >
| >> > > "DavidF" wrote:
| >> > >
| >> > >> Please post a link to your website, the URL, and tell us
| >> > >> specifically
| >> > >> what
| >> > >> links are not working.
| >> > >>
| >> > >> DavidF
| >> > >>
message
| >> > >> | >> > >> >I have created a website using Publisher 2003. I see from other
| >> > >> >postings
| >> > >> > that others have reported that Mac users have not been able to
use
| >> > >> > their
| >> > >> > website links. I have taken some of the steps suggested. I've
| >> > >> > gone
| >> > >> > into
| >> > >> > Publisher tools > options > web tab and made sure "rely on
VML..."
| >> > >> > and
| >> > >> > "allow
| >> > >> > png..." was unchecked.
| >> > >> >
| >> > >> > I've also downloaded Firefox and I've found that I can not
use
| >> > >> > the
| >> > >> > website link on my site.
| >> > >> >
| >> > >> > Thanks for assistance.
| >> > >> >
| >> > >> > Beth
| >> > >>
| >> > >>
| >> > >>
| >> >
| >> >
| >> >
|
|
 
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DavidF

I did...and just checked again. I am talking about the links in the body of
the page, not the navbar on the left, which does work.

DavidF
 
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Rob Giordano \(Crash\)

All links on page410 body work for me...keep in mind there's some underlined
stuff that just aren't links.
(In FF)


--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Rob Giordano
Microsoft MVP Expression





|I did...and just checked again. I am talking about the links in the body of
| the page, not the navbar on the left, which does work.
|
| DavidF
|
| | > Works in my FF, did last night too...try F5
| >
| > --
| > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
| > Rob Giordano
| > Microsoft MVP Expression
| >
| >
| >
| >
| >
| > | > | Beth,
| > |
| > | Good to hear. But the Weekends, Registration, etc links are still dead
| > in
| > FF
| > | when I view the page. Try removing the border, and perhaps you can add
| > the
| > | fill back in. Or, even more likely, reformat the information email
| > address
| > | that extends from the left hand column over that text box in FF, and
| > under
| > | that text box in IE. In this case it may not be either the fill or the
| > | border. The trick for troubleshooting these things is to "deconstruct"
| > the
| > | design until you find the design element, technique or formatting that
| > is
| > | creating the problem. Try different combinations and direct the html
| > files
| > | to your computer where you can test the pages before you upload them.
| > |
| > | I wouldn't worry about the cache problem. As Rob said, my view of the
| > page
| > | is the new page. Most browsers will automatically refresh and load new
| > | content, most of the time...
| > |
| > | DavidF
| > |
| > | | > | > David,
| > | > Your ideas have been very helpful and I can navigate the links using
| > | > Foxfire. Your suggestion to download this browser was very helpful
as
| > it
| > | > allowed mw to see what was working and not working. Ungrouping and
| > | > removing
| > | > fill on the boxes which contained links worked.
| > | >
| > | > The only issue I have now is that I had to click on the logo/or
home
| > page
| > | > link to refresh the web link before the navigation links started
| > working
| > | > in
| > | > Fox Fire. I'm concerned that many Mac users won't know to do this.
I
| > | > added
| > | > a message on the home page however that page doesn't come up at
first
| > | > connection only after the refresh. Your information thus far has
been
| > so
| > | > helpful. Any ideas on this one? Thanks!
| > | > Beth
| > | >
| > | > "Beth Clove" wrote:
| > | >
| > | >> Thank you very much for the ideas. I will work on your
suggestions.
| > | >> Beth
| > | >>
| > | >> "DavidF" wrote:
| > | >>
| > | >> > I suspect it is because you have grouped all your menu or navbar
| > links
| > | >> > with
| > | >> > the other objects in the left hand column, which turns it into an
| > | >> > image, and
| > | >> > kills the links. Here is the image:
| > | >> > http://www.womenswalkwithchrist.org/index_files/image583.gif
| > | >> >
| > | >> > Ungroup the links, and see if that doesn't fix the problem.
| > | >> >
| > | >> > The Weekends, Registration, etc links are also dead...converted
to
| > an
| > | >> > image.
| > | >> > Try ungrouping as a fix again, and if that doesn't work, try
| > removing
| > | >> > the
| > | >> > fill.
| > | >> >
| > | >> > Any design technique that combines design elements into an image
| > will
| > | >> > kill
| > | >> > the links and distort the text. You can try to select the text on
| > the
| > | >> > web
| > | >> > page. If it is an image, you won't be able to do so. Then look
for
| > a
| > | >> > reason
| > | >> > why it has been converted to an image. Besides grouping with
other
| > | >> > elements,
| > | >> > sometimes fill can do this, and sometimes using a non web ready
| > font
| > | >> > will be
| > | >> > converted to an image....
| > | >> >
| > | >> > DavidF
| > | >> >
message
| > | >> > | > | >> > > Thank you for being willing to look at my website to assit me.
| > | >> > > http://www.womenswalkwithchrist.org
| > | >> > >
| > | >> > > When I view it through foxfire, I can not move off of the home
| > page
| > | >> > > as Mac
| > | >> > > users have reported. Here is the URL to the second page which
is
| > | >> > > one of
| > | >> > > the
| > | >> > > information pages they need to view.
| > | >> > > http://www.womenswalkwithchrist.org/index_files/Page410.htm
| > | >> > >
| > | >> > > Beth
| > | >> > >
| > | >> > >
| > | >> > > "DavidF" wrote:
| > | >> > >
| > | >> > >> Please post a link to your website, the URL, and tell us
| > | >> > >> specifically
| > | >> > >> what
| > | >> > >> links are not working.
| > | >> > >>
| > | >> > >> DavidF
| > | >> > >>
| > message
| > | >> > >> | > | >> > >> >I have created a website using Publisher 2003. I see from
| > other
| > | >> > >> >postings
| > | >> > >> > that others have reported that Mac users have not been able
to
| > use
| > | >> > >> > their
| > | >> > >> > website links. I have taken some of the steps suggested.
| > I've
| > | >> > >> > gone
| > | >> > >> > into
| > | >> > >> > Publisher tools > options > web tab and made sure "rely on
| > VML..."
| > | >> > >> > and
| > | >> > >> > "allow
| > | >> > >> > png..." was unchecked.
| > | >> > >> >
| > | >> > >> > I've also downloaded Firefox and I've found that I can
not
| > use
| > | >> > >> > the
| > | >> > >> > website link on my site.
| > | >> > >> >
| > | >> > >> > Thanks for assistance.
| > | >> > >> >
| > | >> > >> > Beth
| > | >> > >>
| > | >> > >>
| > | >> > >>
| > | >> >
| > | >> >
| > | >> >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
 
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Rob Giordano \(Crash\)

those don't work in FF...wasn't there a gradient fill in that textbox
before?

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Rob Giordano
Microsoft MVP Expression





|I get the same on
| http://www.womenswalkwithchrist.org/index_files/Page410.htm as you do.
|
| I was talking about the home page:
| http://www.womenswalkwithchrist.org/index.htm and the links "Weekends",
| "Registration" and "Spirit Circles" in the green bordered text box in the
| body. I should have been more specific.
|
| DavidF
|
| | > All links on page410 body work for me...keep in mind there's some
| > underlined
| > stuff that just aren't links.
| > (In FF)
| >
| >
| > --
| > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
| > Rob Giordano
| > Microsoft MVP Expression
| >
| >
| >
| >
| >
| > | > |I did...and just checked again. I am talking about the links in the
body
| > of
| > | the page, not the navbar on the left, which does work.
| > |
| > | DavidF
| > |
| > message
| > | | > | > Works in my FF, did last night too...try F5
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
| > | > Rob Giordano
| > | > Microsoft MVP Expression
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > | > | > | Beth,
| > | > |
| > | > | Good to hear. But the Weekends, Registration, etc links are still
| > dead
| > | > in
| > | > FF
| > | > | when I view the page. Try removing the border, and perhaps you can
| > add
| > | > the
| > | > | fill back in. Or, even more likely, reformat the information email
| > | > address
| > | > | that extends from the left hand column over that text box in FF,
and
| > | > under
| > | > | that text box in IE. In this case it may not be either the fill or
| > the
| > | > | border. The trick for troubleshooting these things is to
| > "deconstruct"
| > | > the
| > | > | design until you find the design element, technique or formatting
| > that
| > | > is
| > | > | creating the problem. Try different combinations and direct the
html
| > | > files
| > | > | to your computer where you can test the pages before you upload
| > them.
| > | > |
| > | > | I wouldn't worry about the cache problem. As Rob said, my view of
| > the
| > | > page
| > | > | is the new page. Most browsers will automatically refresh and load
| > new
| > | > | content, most of the time...
| > | > |
| > | > | DavidF
| > | > |
message
| > | > | | > | > | > David,
| > | > | > Your ideas have been very helpful and I can navigate the links
| > using
| > | > | > Foxfire. Your suggestion to download this browser was very
helpful
| > as
| > | > it
| > | > | > allowed mw to see what was working and not working. Ungrouping
| > and
| > | > | > removing
| > | > | > fill on the boxes which contained links worked.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > The only issue I have now is that I had to click on the logo/or
| > home
| > | > page
| > | > | > link to refresh the web link before the navigation links started
| > | > working
| > | > | > in
| > | > | > Fox Fire. I'm concerned that many Mac users won't know to do
| > this.
| > I
| > | > | > added
| > | > | > a message on the home page however that page doesn't come up at
| > first
| > | > | > connection only after the refresh. Your information thus far
has
| > been
| > | > so
| > | > | > helpful. Any ideas on this one? Thanks!
| > | > | > Beth
| > | > | >
| > | > | > "Beth Clove" wrote:
| > | > | >
| > | > | >> Thank you very much for the ideas. I will work on your
| > suggestions.
| > | > | >> Beth
| > | > | >>
| > | > | >> "DavidF" wrote:
| > | > | >>
| > | > | >> > I suspect it is because you have grouped all your menu or
| > navbar
| > | > links
| > | > | >> > with
| > | > | >> > the other objects in the left hand column, which turns it
into
| > an
| > | > | >> > image, and
| > | > | >> > kills the links. Here is the image:
| > | > | >> > http://www.womenswalkwithchrist.org/index_files/image583.gif
| > | > | >> >
| > | > | >> > Ungroup the links, and see if that doesn't fix the problem.
| > | > | >> >
| > | > | >> > The Weekends, Registration, etc links are also
dead...converted
| > to
| > | > an
| > | > | >> > image.
| > | > | >> > Try ungrouping as a fix again, and if that doesn't work, try
| > | > removing
| > | > | >> > the
| > | > | >> > fill.
| > | > | >> >
| > | > | >> > Any design technique that combines design elements into an
| > image
| > | > will
| > | > | >> > kill
| > | > | >> > the links and distort the text. You can try to select the
text
| > on
| > | > the
| > | > | >> > web
| > | > | >> > page. If it is an image, you won't be able to do so. Then
look
| > for
| > | > a
| > | > | >> > reason
| > | > | >> > why it has been converted to an image. Besides grouping with
| > other
| > | > | >> > elements,
| > | > | >> > sometimes fill can do this, and sometimes using a non web
ready
| > | > font
| > | > | >> > will be
| > | > | >> > converted to an image....
| > | > | >> >
| > | > | >> > DavidF
| > | > | >> >
| > message
| > | > | >> > | > | > | >> > > Thank you for being willing to look at my website to assit
| > me.
| > | > | >> > > http://www.womenswalkwithchrist.org
| > | > | >> > >
| > | > | >> > > When I view it through foxfire, I can not move off of the
| > home
| > | > page
| > | > | >> > > as Mac
| > | > | >> > > users have reported. Here is the URL to the second page
| > which
| > is
| > | > | >> > > one of
| > | > | >> > > the
| > | > | >> > > information pages they need to view.
| > | > | >> > > http://www.womenswalkwithchrist.org/index_files/Page410.htm
| > | > | >> > >
| > | > | >> > > Beth
| > | > | >> > >
| > | > | >> > >
| > | > | >> > > "DavidF" wrote:
| > | > | >> > >
| > | > | >> > >> Please post a link to your website, the URL, and tell us
| > | > | >> > >> specifically
| > | > | >> > >> what
| > | > | >> > >> links are not working.
| > | > | >> > >>
| > | > | >> > >> DavidF
| > | > | >> > >>
in
| > | > message
| > | > | >> > >> | > | > | >> > >> >I have created a website using Publisher 2003. I see
from
| > | > other
| > | > | >> > >> >postings
| > | > | >> > >> > that others have reported that Mac users have not been
| > able
| > to
| > | > use
| > | > | >> > >> > their
| > | > | >> > >> > website links. I have taken some of the steps
suggested.
| > | > I've
| > | > | >> > >> > gone
| > | > | >> > >> > into
| > | > | >> > >> > Publisher tools > options > web tab and made sure "rely
on
| > | > VML..."
| > | > | >> > >> > and
| > | > | >> > >> > "allow
| > | > | >> > >> > png..." was unchecked.
| > | > | >> > >> >
| > | > | >> > >> > I've also downloaded Firefox and I've found that I
can
| > not
| > | > use
| > | > | >> > >> > the
| > | > | >> > >> > website link on my site.
| > | > | >> > >> >
| > | > | >> > >> > Thanks for assistance.
| > | > | >> > >> >
| > | > | >> > >> > Beth
| > | > | >> > >>
| > | > | >> > >>
| > | > | >> > >>
| > | > | >> >
| > | > | >> >
| > | > | >> >
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
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DavidF

Yes, I think so, and that was my original suggestion to fix the problem.
However, I then suggested:
"Try removing the border, and perhaps you can add the
fill back in. Or, even more likely, reformat the information email address
that extends from the left hand column over that text box in FF, and under
that text box in IE. In this case it may not be either the fill or the
border. The trick for troubleshooting these things is to "deconstruct" the
design until you find the design element, technique or formatting that is
creating the problem. Try different combinations and direct the html files
to your computer where you can test the pages before you upload them."

Sometimes fill can kill the links...sometimes it is grouping...sometimes it
is something else.

DavidF
 
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Beth Clove

Thanks Rob
I'm getting some good feedback from a friend who uses a Mac. At first she
said there was overlap with color and words and then she said all looked
great when I hadn'r changed anything. I wonder if she was experiencing what
I did. Thank you for letting me know what you see.

Beth
 
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Beth Clove

David,
I can't thank you enough for all your assitance. I was really stuck before
I received your help. I'm hearing from my Mac friend that at first the
colors and text over lapped and then it all seemed to work perfectly- I
hadn't made any changes between the two times she tried it. It is so true
about the "deconstruct" strategy. Understanding that grouped items are
considered images by other browsers has been really helpful as well. The
Foxfire has given me another way to view my site. As I get more feedback,
I'll continue to work with it. I'm not sure the problem with needing to
refresh the site to make the links work has been solved. Thanks again for
all your help. I continue to appreciate any feedback on how the site is
working for others.

Beth
 
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Beth Clove

Are you saying that the links in the greem bordered box still don't link? I
do want them to link so I appreciate knowing that. Yes, there was fill in
the box before which I deleted. Removing the fill corrected the problem with
the other boxes. I'm not sure why it didn't work on this one. Thanks for
the info. I will work on it.

Beth
 
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Beth Clove

I believe I have solved the problem with the links on the front page now. I
realized that a white fill had been used. I removed that and then had to
start over with a new text box. The links work for me with Fox fire. I too
found that the email link overlapped into my text box and I have corrected
that as well. It is a process! But it is worth it if all users can utilize
our site. I would welcome any feedback as to how it is working for others
now. Thanks.
 

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