FrontPage is retired, but will still be supported for several years.
FrontPage has been replaced with Expression Web...there is a free trial so
you may want to download it and see if you like it.
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Rob Giordano
Microsoft MVP Expression
|I agree. Really interesting statistics. So if I want to use lets say,
the
| "Edwardian Script" at the top of my web pages the best thing would be to
put
| it in an image form?
|
| "Publisher is primarily a DTP, with limited web building capability and is
| ntended for relatively small, simple, static web sites".
|
| If I want to to be a bit more creative, what other programs would work? I
| have seen several people I know have website built with various issues of
| "Frontpage" software. I was thinking about Frontpage, but it is my
| understanding that something new is coming out to take it's place. Not
sure
| how difficult it is to use.
|
|
|
| "DavidF" wrote:
|
| > Velllly interesting. Sounds like even if you are careful and use a
generally
| > "safe" web font, it won't always work. I also didn't realize the Linux
was
| > so limited.
| >
| > Thanks.
| >
| > DavidF
| >
| > | > > David (and Rob),
| > >
| > > Here's an interesting site regarding fonts and which are installed on
| > > systems:
http://www.visibone.com/font/FontResults.html. It includes
PCs,
| > > Macs and Linux browsers. Another site, Windows only, is
| > >
http://www.codestyle.org/css/font-family/sampler-WindowsResults.shtml
| > >
| > > Mike
| > >
| > > DavidF wrote:
| > >> Karin,
| > >>
| > >> In addition to what Rob said about web fonts, Publisher will either
| > >> convert non-web fonts to an image automatically, or may substitute in
a
| > >> web font when viewed. There are 11 web fonts. Reference:
| > >> About Web fonts and font schemes:
| > >>
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/publisher/HP010174931033.aspx?pid=CH063575481033
| > >> The point is that no matter what program you use to build your site,
if
| > >> you use non-web fonts on your page, the results will be the same.
| > >>
| > >> Animated GIFS are supported in newer versions of Publisher, and you
can
| > >> overlap text boxes and other design elements without converting all
the
| > >> elements to a new non-animated GIF. You can layer images on top of
text
| > >> boxes in 2007, where in Pub 98 through 2000, this would be converted
to a
| > >> common GIF.
| > >>
| > >> However, you cannot use "word wrap" in a web publication. This is an
| > >> example of a print format, that doesn't convert correctly to html. In
Pub
| > >> 98, if you wrapped an image with text, you would get a combined image
of
| > >> the text and the original image with the text wrapped around the
image.
| > >> In 2007, you get an image on top of the text, and the text remains
text.
| > >>
| > >> Other examples of print formatting that chokes Publisher when you
convert
| > >> to html would include most paragraph spacing and special formatting,
| > >> tables are converted to an image, some bulleted lists, some odd sized
| > >> fonts, some columns, some gradient fills, some custom borders, and...
You
| > >> also will find that some things work when your website is viewed in
IE,
| > >> but don't work in FireFox and other browsers, so you also have to
modify
| > >> your design so that it has cross browser support. I can't provide a
| > >> complete list, nor can I say that other programs might not be able to
| > >> workaround these formatting issues, but in general some "print
| > >> formatting" will cause problems and require you to design around what
you
| > >> can and cannot do....and what you should and should not do.
| > >>
| > >> You could use underlines for emphasis in a print document, but in a
web
| > >> document that would tell the viewer that is supposed to be a
hyperlink.
| > >> You would probably layout a print document 8.5 inches wide...or paper
| > >> width wide, but you don't want your web pages so wide that it
requires
| > >> the viewer to scroll side to side. Publisher produces a fixed width,
left
| > >> justified page, while other programs can produce variable widths and
self
| > >> centering pages. You can use a high resolution image in a print
document,
| > >> but need a lower resolution image that loads quickly in a web
document.
| > >> You can use shadows, embossing, etc. in a print doc, but will not get
the
| > >> same effect in a web doc. Look at your local newspaper, and then look
at
| > >> the online version...that is a good example of formatting and
designing
| > >> for print vs. web media. Part of it is not being able to convert to
html,
| > >> and part of it is simply the different mediums, but less to do with
the
| > >> program you use to build your web site.
| > >>
| > >> Publisher is primarily a DTP, with limited web building capability
and is
| > >> intended for relatively small, simple, static web sites. If you work
| > >> within its limitations you can produce an effective and attractive
web
| > >> site, but it will never have the capability of a program that is
designed
| > >> specifically for web building. It all depends on the goals and the
scope
| > >> of what you want out of a web site as to whether Publisher is an
| > >> acceptable choice.
| > >>
| > >> DavidF
| > >>
| > >> | > >>
| > >>>David, could you explain about print document vs web. My website is
| > >>>presently 47 pages and I use lots of photos. I also like to use
animated
| > >>>gifs. I would like to know that when I use a particular font, it not
| > >>>only
| > >>>shows the correct font on my web preview, but when it is viewed on
| > >>>another
| > >>>computer as well. I was thinking that if I used another web program
that
| > >>>maybe I could accomplish this. Am I wrong? My web design knowledge
is
| > >>>limited to what I have learned using Pub. 98.
| > >>>
| > >>>"DavidF" wrote:
| > >>>
| > >>>
| > >>>>You can layer design objects and elements in Publisher after version
| > >>>>2000,
| > >>>>so you could consider Pub 2007. Just remember that there are things
you
| > >>>>can
| > >>>>do in a print document that will not convert to html regardless of
what
| > >>>>program you choose to use. Print and Web are two different media and
you
| > >>>>have to design accordingly.
| > >>>>
| > >>>>If you do decide to buy Pub 2007, I would suggest that when you
install
| > >>>>it,
| > >>>>you do a custom install, and choose to keep Pub 98 installed and not
| > >>>>overwrite it. You may have problems opening Pub 98 publications in
2007,
| > >>>>and
| > >>>>if you use a lot of word art, that has been changed. You can have
| > >>>>multiple
| > >>>>versions of Publisher running on the same machine.
| > >>>>
| > >>>>As to other programs, Web Plus is a good choice as Mike suggests.
| > >>>>
http://www.nvu.com/ is a free open source program. Web Expression is
a
| > >>>>spendy replacement program for FrontPage, and....
| > >>>>
| > >>>>Good luck.
| > >>>>
| > >>>>DavidF
| > >>>>
| > >>>>| > >>>>
| > >>>>>I am recreating my website (using Publisher 98). I am using a tile
| > >>>>>background
| > >>>>>that I got from the internet. On top of that I have inserted a
text
| > >>>>>box
| > >>>>>with
| > >>>>>a gradient fill and frame. Inside there I have inserted another
text
| > >>>>>box
| > >>>>>that is white with a frame. I am inserting pictures and text
inside
| > >>>>>the
| > >>>>>white text box. Problem is the pictures show up very blotchy when
| > >>>>>doing a
| > >>>>>web preview. Publisher converts everything to a gif file.
| > >>>>>
| > >>>>>I would like to invest in a new web site design program, but I want
to
| > >>>>>make
| > >>>>>sure that when I do layering like mention above I won't have the
same
| > >>>>>problem. Any recommendations on website design software that will
do
| > >>>>>what
| > >>>>>I
| > >>>>>want and is not too difficult to use?
| > >>>>
| > >>>>
| > >>>>
| > >>
| >
| >
