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thejamie
I need a switch that puts me back in classic office interface mode. Where
do I need to go to request this?
do I need to go to request this?
Where to go with a suggestion to return to classic office interfac
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Gordon
thejamie said:
I don't think that MS is going to do that. there are several third-party
solutions.
Why not just learn the new interface?
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thejamie
Well, indeed, I must learn the new interface. I am certain there is no way
around that. However, I have lots of other projects and wasting time
learning a new interface when I have more important deadlines doesn't make
sense at this time.
I don't think I understand you though. You stay there is no way MS is going
to do that? Why would you say such a thing?
In the past, Microsoft has always provided a classic interface. Why would
they suddenly change this policy?
around that. However, I have lots of other projects and wasting time
learning a new interface when I have more important deadlines doesn't make
sense at this time.
I don't think I understand you though. You stay there is no way MS is going
to do that? Why would you say such a thing?
In the past, Microsoft has always provided a classic interface. Why would
they suddenly change this policy?
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Echo S
Post your request to Jensen Harris's blog.
http://blogs.msdn.com/jensenh/default.aspx He headed up the Offer User
Interface team.
I'm sure he explains (justifies?) in there somewhere why they didn't provide
a classic interface.
Third-party tools:
http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer/index.php
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=office+2007+classic
http://blogs.msdn.com/jensenh/default.aspx He headed up the Offer User
Interface team.
I'm sure he explains (justifies?) in there somewhere why they didn't provide
a classic interface.
Third-party tools:
http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer/index.php
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=office+2007+classic
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Gordon
thejamie said:
Because they can. Some help for you - most users (and I speak as a Systems
Accountant) use a few commands or functions frequently - you can out those
on the QAT (Quick Access Toolbar). I find that the commands or functions
that are less-frequently used are far easier to find under the new ribbon
than in the multi-depth menu system of previous versions.
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thejamie
From the response, it sounds like I am trying to swim against the current.
Let me change the question. This morning i had an important document open.
I was connected via VPN and something failed in the windows explorer and my
Word document froze. I immediately opened another window to try to get help
on the freeze and to check my tools | options to see if I had inadvertently
changed some of the settings to reside on a link over the VPN rather than the
local machine.
How do you get to tools | options? How do you pull down the help menu?
Let me change the question. This morning i had an important document open.
I was connected via VPN and something failed in the windows explorer and my
Word document froze. I immediately opened another window to try to get help
on the freeze and to check my tools | options to see if I had inadvertently
changed some of the settings to reside on a link over the VPN rather than the
local machine.
How do you get to tools | options? How do you pull down the help menu?
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thejamie
Sounds curiously to me like the ribbon is helping to clean up some of the
mess left over by the office ability to interface with the COM objects that
are loaded through IDispatch and the subsequent security dangers that are
represented by the ability to open the rundll to register random bits of COM
code. I'm not sure how it helps me to know that some Apple iPod person is
able to use Office and I am not.
If some resentment shows here it is probably due to the two decades of
working with Microsoft products before they decided to go out and make the
competition happy. They make it easy for the new users but are deserting
loyal customers. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense imho.
Not sure why I would want to spend an extra tank of gas buying software to
make a Microsoft product work "as expected". Perhaps someone has a link
explaining this as well?
I'm a tough sell. Best, I guess, to ignore this shellhole. Sounds like a
bullet Microsoft is trying to dodge.
--
Regards,
Jamie
mess left over by the office ability to interface with the COM objects that
are loaded through IDispatch and the subsequent security dangers that are
represented by the ability to open the rundll to register random bits of COM
code. I'm not sure how it helps me to know that some Apple iPod person is
able to use Office and I am not.
If some resentment shows here it is probably due to the two decades of
working with Microsoft products before they decided to go out and make the
competition happy. They make it easy for the new users but are deserting
loyal customers. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense imho.
Not sure why I would want to spend an extra tank of gas buying software to
make a Microsoft product work "as expected". Perhaps someone has a link
explaining this as well?
I'm a tough sell. Best, I guess, to ignore this shellhole. Sounds like a
bullet Microsoft is trying to dodge.
--
Regards,
Jamie
Echo S said:
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thejamie
Coke was able to change their classic over too (because they could). I
suspect someone got the message up there and figured maybe they'd be better
off listening to paying customers. I guess I am just assuming that its
possible someone might be listening here.
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Gordon
thejamie said:
This is a peer-to-peer support group. The only connection with MS is that it
happens to be hosted on MS servers....
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thejamie
Might I add, based on the investment they made in the new GUI.
--
Regards,
Jamie
--
Regards,
Jamie
thejamie said:
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thejamie
I was actually up at http://connect.microsoft.com trying to make a suggestion
about the classic menu and their comments for this approach was to bring it
up in the forums as there is no suggestion box forum from connect for Office
2007. In that spirit, I drove over here.
It begs the question of where are the tools |options. I suspect I can
spend as much time hunting for it as I can whining however, for this
particular case, whining seemed the better approach. Fortunately for me, the
frozen screen was still able to give me a copy of what failed and I did not
lose the document.
I still have no idea where to set the options for Office 2007. The one
thing I know for certain is that, like the round button on the left, it isn't
in an obvious place.
--
Regards,
Jamie
about the classic menu and their comments for this approach was to bring it
up in the forums as there is no suggestion box forum from connect for Office
2007. In that spirit, I drove over here.
It begs the question of where are the tools |options. I suspect I can
spend as much time hunting for it as I can whining however, for this
particular case, whining seemed the better approach. Fortunately for me, the
frozen screen was still able to give me a copy of what failed and I did not
lose the document.
I still have no idea where to set the options for Office 2007. The one
thing I know for certain is that, like the round button on the left, it isn't
in an obvious place.
--
Regards,
Jamie
Gordon said:
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Beth Melton
The Options dialog box can be accessed by clicking the Office Button and
then clicking Word Options.
You might want to check the link for the Interactive Guides for Office 2007
at the bottom of my signature. The guides are useful for situations such as
this. The Interactive Guide provides the old interface which you can use to
find the location of commands in the new interface.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Melton
What is a Microsoft MVP? http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpfaqs
Guides for the Office 2007 Interface:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/training/HA102295841033.aspx
then clicking Word Options.
You might want to check the link for the Interactive Guides for Office 2007
at the bottom of my signature. The guides are useful for situations such as
this. The Interactive Guide provides the old interface which you can use to
find the location of commands in the new interface.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Melton
What is a Microsoft MVP? http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpfaqs
Guides for the Office 2007 Interface:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/training/HA102295841033.aspx
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thejamie
Thanks. Sounds like what I need. Works better than frustration.
T
thejamie
This is probably beyond the scope of this discussion but I see that in my
options, the trusted published already includes my VPN connection.
Unfortunately, the freeze occurs because the trusted connection fails. Is
there anyway to keep the application from freezing when the connection fails
- for example, set a time-out so that the auto-save feature will retry the
save when the connection comes back on and meanwhile drop the auto-saved
value to the Trusted Sharepoint location?
options, the trusted published already includes my VPN connection.
Unfortunately, the freeze occurs because the trusted connection fails. Is
there anyway to keep the application from freezing when the connection fails
- for example, set a time-out so that the auto-save feature will retry the
save when the connection comes back on and meanwhile drop the auto-saved
value to the Trusted Sharepoint location?
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thejamie
FOUND that... thanks "Allow Trusted Locations on my network" works fine.
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Beth Melton
The Interactive Guide can definitely help. The only problem is if the
command you are looking for isn't on the menu bar, Standard/Formatting
toolbars. If you want a complete listing of all commands and where they were
moved here is a link to Excel workbooks that contain the Ribbon mappings for
the 2003 versions:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/templates/CT102130321033.aspx
Glad to hear you resolved your VPN issue as well. Thanks for the update.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Melton
What is a Microsoft MVP? http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpfaqs
Guides for the Office 2007 Interface:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/training/HA102295841033.aspx
command you are looking for isn't on the menu bar, Standard/Formatting
toolbars. If you want a complete listing of all commands and where they were
moved here is a link to Excel workbooks that contain the Ribbon mappings for
the 2003 versions:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/templates/CT102130321033.aspx
Glad to hear you resolved your VPN issue as well. Thanks for the update.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Melton
What is a Microsoft MVP? http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpfaqs
Guides for the Office 2007 Interface:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/training/HA102295841033.aspx
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Gemini
Jamie, rest assured you're not the only one who isn't exactly enamored with
the Ribbon interface. Your comment about MS deserting longterm users is also
well made and I've seen it echoed quite a few times.
However, Jensen Harris (he led the team that designed the Ribbon) made the
decision of not providing the classic UI as an option. I strongly suspect had
MS provided that alternative, the Ribbon would've died a slow death.
I did use the trial version for several weeks. I found Excel to be unstable
and the interface counterproductive. My solution was to revert to Office
2003, which solved both the issues.
Here's a link to send in your comments about the Ribbon.
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/products/default.aspx
Look for the "Send Us Your Comments" link (lower left corner).
BTW, MS apparently has plans to use the Ribbon UI in more places with future
Windows releases.
hth!
-- Gemini
the Ribbon interface. Your comment about MS deserting longterm users is also
well made and I've seen it echoed quite a few times.
However, Jensen Harris (he led the team that designed the Ribbon) made the
decision of not providing the classic UI as an option. I strongly suspect had
MS provided that alternative, the Ribbon would've died a slow death.
I did use the trial version for several weeks. I found Excel to be unstable
and the interface counterproductive. My solution was to revert to Office
2003, which solved both the issues.
Here's a link to send in your comments about the Ribbon.
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/products/default.aspx
Look for the "Send Us Your Comments" link (lower left corner).
BTW, MS apparently has plans to use the Ribbon UI in more places with future
Windows releases.
hth!
-- Gemini
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Ben M. Schorr - MVP (OneNote)
Tools | Options = Office Button | Word Options.
Help Menu = Click the help icon on the right end of the ribbon. A
question mark in a blue circle.
--
-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP
Roland Schorr & Tower
http://www.rolandschorr.com
http://www.officeforlawyers.com
Author - The Lawyer's Guide to Microsoft Outlook 2007:
http://tinyurl.com/5m3f5q
Help Menu = Click the help icon on the right end of the ribbon. A
question mark in a blue circle.
--
-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP
Roland Schorr & Tower
http://www.rolandschorr.com
http://www.officeforlawyers.com
Author - The Lawyer's Guide to Microsoft Outlook 2007:
http://tinyurl.com/5m3f5q
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Telstar
thejamie said:
This stupid and obtuse arguement including the Coke junk has been used ad
naseum. Learn to learn.
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Telstar
thejamie said:
PS
If the whole point of new software was to be old...why ever upgrade
something? Why innovate? Why change.
PS
Do NOT go out a buy a new car. The controls will not be in the position you
expect.