Why deploying Outlook after Office resets the patch status?

[Manel Rodero]

Hello,

I've created a MST tranform to install Office 2003 Professional without
Outlook (I've check out Outlook as hidden, lock and checked to not uninstall
any previous Outlook version). I've used pro11.msi as a source.

After this I've used an INI file to chain SP1 in this installation and some
other patches (security, new dictionaries, etc.).

After this installation, if I go to Office Update, the status of my
installation is good! I didn't need any patch.

Then, I create a new MST file with only Outlook. I'm using outl11.msi as the
source. In this package I unchecked all features except Outlook. I check the
options to remove all previous Outlook versions.

After I install Outlook using this transform, when I go to Office Update I
have a lot of patches to install (including those installed bye the first
setup of Office).

I can solve this problem, chaining the same Office updates in the Outlook
installation, but is this the correct option to do this kind of
installations? Is there any problems for installing the same patches again?

Thank you very much.

 

[JP Breton]

Why don't you install Outlook as part of your Office installation?

This is want I am doing and it work great.

JP

 

[JP Breton]

Why don't you install Outlook as part of your Office installation?

This is want I am doing and it work great.

JP

 

[JP Breton]

Why don't you install Outlook as part of your Office installation?

This is want I am doing and it work great.

JP

 

[JP Breton]

Why don't you install Outlook as part of your Office installation?

This is want I am doing and it work great.

JP

 

[JP Breton]

Why don't you install Outlook as part of your Office installation?

This is want I am doing and it work great.

JP

 

[JP Breton]

Why don't you install Outlook as part of your Office installation?

This is want I am doing and it work great.

JP

 

[JP Breton]

Why don't you install Outlook as part of your Office installation?

This is want I am doing and it work great.

JP

 

[JP Breton]

Why don't you install Outlook as part of your Office installation?

This is want I am doing and it work great.

JP

 

[JP Breton]

Why don't you install Outlook as part of your Office installation?

This is want I am doing and it work great.

JP

 

[Bob Buckland ?:-\)]

Hi Manel,

To add to J.P.'s reply - your Pro11.msi includes Outlook 2003.
You can use the custom installation Wizard (CMW) from the
Office 2003 Resource Kit (ORK) (http://microsoft.com/office/ork/2003)
to change the installed feature set of your deployed Office 2003
to turn on or off apps. That avoids having 2 SKUs and licenses
needed per user as well as being able to have the newly turned
on app generally patched to the correct level (depending on which
ORK strategy for updating clients you've enabled.

When you install two separate MSI (SKU) packages the updates from
one don't automatically follow to the 2nd product.

=======
Hello,

I've created a MST tranform to install Office 2003 Professional without
Outlook (I've check out Outlook as hidden, lock and checked to not uninstall
any previous Outlook version). I've used pro11.msi as a source.

After this I've used an INI file to chain SP1 in this installation and some
other patches (security, new dictionaries, etc.).

After this installation, if I go to Office Update, the status of my
installation is good! I didn't need any patch.

Then, I create a new MST file with only Outlook. I'm using outl11.msi as the
source. In this package I unchecked all features except Outlook. I check the
options to remove all previous Outlook versions.

After I install Outlook using this transform, when I go to Office Update I
have a lot of patches to install (including those installed bye the first
setup of Office).

I can solve this problem, chaining the same Office updates in the Outlook
installation, but is this the correct option to do this kind of
installations? Is there any problems for installing the same patches again?

Thank you very much. >>
--
Let us know if this helped you,

Bob Buckland ?
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

For Everyday MS Office tips to "use right away" -
http://microsoft.com/events/series/administrativetipsandtricks.mspx

 

[Bob Buckland ?:-\)]

Hi Manel,

To add to J.P.'s reply - your Pro11.msi includes Outlook 2003.
You can use the custom installation Wizard (CMW) from the
Office 2003 Resource Kit (ORK) (http://microsoft.com/office/ork/2003)
to change the installed feature set of your deployed Office 2003
to turn on or off apps. That avoids having 2 SKUs and licenses
needed per user as well as being able to have the newly turned
on app generally patched to the correct level (depending on which
ORK strategy for updating clients you've enabled.

When you install two separate MSI (SKU) packages the updates from
one don't automatically follow to the 2nd product.

=======
Hello,

I've created a MST tranform to install Office 2003 Professional without
Outlook (I've check out Outlook as hidden, lock and checked to not uninstall
any previous Outlook version). I've used pro11.msi as a source.

After this I've used an INI file to chain SP1 in this installation and some
other patches (security, new dictionaries, etc.).

After this installation, if I go to Office Update, the status of my
installation is good! I didn't need any patch.

Then, I create a new MST file with only Outlook. I'm using outl11.msi as the
source. In this package I unchecked all features except Outlook. I check the
options to remove all previous Outlook versions.

After I install Outlook using this transform, when I go to Office Update I
have a lot of patches to install (including those installed bye the first
setup of Office).

I can solve this problem, chaining the same Office updates in the Outlook
installation, but is this the correct option to do this kind of
installations? Is there any problems for installing the same patches again?

Thank you very much. >>
--
Let us know if this helped you,

Bob Buckland ?
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

For Everyday MS Office tips to "use right away" -
http://microsoft.com/events/series/administrativetipsandtricks.mspx

 

[Bob Buckland ?:-\)]

Hi Manel,

To add to J.P.'s reply - your Pro11.msi includes Outlook 2003.
You can use the custom installation Wizard (CMW) from the
Office 2003 Resource Kit (ORK) (http://microsoft.com/office/ork/2003)
to change the installed feature set of your deployed Office 2003
to turn on or off apps. That avoids having 2 SKUs and licenses
needed per user as well as being able to have the newly turned
on app generally patched to the correct level (depending on which
ORK strategy for updating clients you've enabled.

When you install two separate MSI (SKU) packages the updates from
one don't automatically follow to the 2nd product.

=======
Hello,

I've created a MST tranform to install Office 2003 Professional without
Outlook (I've check out Outlook as hidden, lock and checked to not uninstall
any previous Outlook version). I've used pro11.msi as a source.

After this I've used an INI file to chain SP1 in this installation and some
other patches (security, new dictionaries, etc.).

After this installation, if I go to Office Update, the status of my
installation is good! I didn't need any patch.

Then, I create a new MST file with only Outlook. I'm using outl11.msi as the
source. In this package I unchecked all features except Outlook. I check the
options to remove all previous Outlook versions.

After I install Outlook using this transform, when I go to Office Update I
have a lot of patches to install (including those installed bye the first
setup of Office).

I can solve this problem, chaining the same Office updates in the Outlook
installation, but is this the correct option to do this kind of
installations? Is there any problems for installing the same patches again?

Thank you very much. >>
--
Let us know if this helped you,

Bob Buckland ?
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

For Everyday MS Office tips to "use right away" -
http://microsoft.com/events/series/administrativetipsandtricks.mspx

 

[Bob Buckland ?:-\)]

Hi Manel,

To add to J.P.'s reply - your Pro11.msi includes Outlook 2003.
You can use the custom installation Wizard (CMW) from the
Office 2003 Resource Kit (ORK) (http://microsoft.com/office/ork/2003)
to change the installed feature set of your deployed Office 2003
to turn on or off apps. That avoids having 2 SKUs and licenses
needed per user as well as being able to have the newly turned
on app generally patched to the correct level (depending on which
ORK strategy for updating clients you've enabled.

When you install two separate MSI (SKU) packages the updates from
one don't automatically follow to the 2nd product.

=======
Hello,

I've created a MST tranform to install Office 2003 Professional without
Outlook (I've check out Outlook as hidden, lock and checked to not uninstall
any previous Outlook version). I've used pro11.msi as a source.

After this I've used an INI file to chain SP1 in this installation and some
other patches (security, new dictionaries, etc.).

After this installation, if I go to Office Update, the status of my
installation is good! I didn't need any patch.

Then, I create a new MST file with only Outlook. I'm using outl11.msi as the
source. In this package I unchecked all features except Outlook. I check the
options to remove all previous Outlook versions.

After I install Outlook using this transform, when I go to Office Update I
have a lot of patches to install (including those installed bye the first
setup of Office).

I can solve this problem, chaining the same Office updates in the Outlook
installation, but is this the correct option to do this kind of
installations? Is there any problems for installing the same patches again?

Thank you very much. >>
--
Let us know if this helped you,

Bob Buckland ?
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

For Everyday MS Office tips to "use right away" -
http://microsoft.com/events/series/administrativetipsandtricks.mspx

 

[Bob Buckland ?:-\)]

Hi Manel,

To add to J.P.'s reply - your Pro11.msi includes Outlook 2003.
You can use the custom installation Wizard (CMW) from the
Office 2003 Resource Kit (ORK) (http://microsoft.com/office/ork/2003)
to change the installed feature set of your deployed Office 2003
to turn on or off apps. That avoids having 2 SKUs and licenses
needed per user as well as being able to have the newly turned
on app generally patched to the correct level (depending on which
ORK strategy for updating clients you've enabled.

When you install two separate MSI (SKU) packages the updates from
one don't automatically follow to the 2nd product.

=======
Hello,

I've created a MST tranform to install Office 2003 Professional without
Outlook (I've check out Outlook as hidden, lock and checked to not uninstall
any previous Outlook version). I've used pro11.msi as a source.

After this I've used an INI file to chain SP1 in this installation and some
other patches (security, new dictionaries, etc.).

After this installation, if I go to Office Update, the status of my
installation is good! I didn't need any patch.

Then, I create a new MST file with only Outlook. I'm using outl11.msi as the
source. In this package I unchecked all features except Outlook. I check the
options to remove all previous Outlook versions.

After I install Outlook using this transform, when I go to Office Update I
have a lot of patches to install (including those installed bye the first
setup of Office).

I can solve this problem, chaining the same Office updates in the Outlook
installation, but is this the correct option to do this kind of
installations? Is there any problems for installing the same patches again?

Thank you very much. >>
--
Let us know if this helped you,

Bob Buckland ?
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

For Everyday MS Office tips to "use right away" -
http://microsoft.com/events/series/administrativetipsandtricks.mspx

 

[Bob Buckland ?:-\)]

Hi Manel,

To add to J.P.'s reply - your Pro11.msi includes Outlook 2003.
You can use the custom installation Wizard (CMW) from the
Office 2003 Resource Kit (ORK) (http://microsoft.com/office/ork/2003)
to change the installed feature set of your deployed Office 2003
to turn on or off apps. That avoids having 2 SKUs and licenses
needed per user as well as being able to have the newly turned
on app generally patched to the correct level (depending on which
ORK strategy for updating clients you've enabled.

When you install two separate MSI (SKU) packages the updates from
one don't automatically follow to the 2nd product.

=======
Hello,

I've created a MST tranform to install Office 2003 Professional without
Outlook (I've check out Outlook as hidden, lock and checked to not uninstall
any previous Outlook version). I've used pro11.msi as a source.

After this I've used an INI file to chain SP1 in this installation and some
other patches (security, new dictionaries, etc.).

After this installation, if I go to Office Update, the status of my
installation is good! I didn't need any patch.

Then, I create a new MST file with only Outlook. I'm using outl11.msi as the
source. In this package I unchecked all features except Outlook. I check the
options to remove all previous Outlook versions.

After I install Outlook using this transform, when I go to Office Update I
have a lot of patches to install (including those installed bye the first
setup of Office).

I can solve this problem, chaining the same Office updates in the Outlook
installation, but is this the correct option to do this kind of
installations? Is there any problems for installing the same patches again?

Thank you very much. >>
--
Let us know if this helped you,

Bob Buckland ?
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

For Everyday MS Office tips to "use right away" -
http://microsoft.com/events/series/administrativetipsandtricks.mspx

 

[Bob Buckland ?:-\)]

Hi Manel,

To add to J.P.'s reply - your Pro11.msi includes Outlook 2003.
You can use the custom installation Wizard (CMW) from the
Office 2003 Resource Kit (ORK) (http://microsoft.com/office/ork/2003)
to change the installed feature set of your deployed Office 2003
to turn on or off apps. That avoids having 2 SKUs and licenses
needed per user as well as being able to have the newly turned
on app generally patched to the correct level (depending on which
ORK strategy for updating clients you've enabled.

When you install two separate MSI (SKU) packages the updates from
one don't automatically follow to the 2nd product.

=======
Hello,

I've created a MST tranform to install Office 2003 Professional without
Outlook (I've check out Outlook as hidden, lock and checked to not uninstall
any previous Outlook version). I've used pro11.msi as a source.

After this I've used an INI file to chain SP1 in this installation and some
other patches (security, new dictionaries, etc.).

After this installation, if I go to Office Update, the status of my
installation is good! I didn't need any patch.

Then, I create a new MST file with only Outlook. I'm using outl11.msi as the
source. In this package I unchecked all features except Outlook. I check the
options to remove all previous Outlook versions.

After I install Outlook using this transform, when I go to Office Update I
have a lot of patches to install (including those installed bye the first
setup of Office).

I can solve this problem, chaining the same Office updates in the Outlook
installation, but is this the correct option to do this kind of
installations? Is there any problems for installing the same patches again?

Thank you very much. >>
--
Let us know if this helped you,

Bob Buckland ?
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

For Everyday MS Office tips to "use right away" -
http://microsoft.com/events/series/administrativetipsandtricks.mspx

 

[Bob Buckland ?:-\)]

Hi Manel,

To add to J.P.'s reply - your Pro11.msi includes Outlook 2003.
You can use the custom installation Wizard (CMW) from the
Office 2003 Resource Kit (ORK) (http://microsoft.com/office/ork/2003)
to change the installed feature set of your deployed Office 2003
to turn on or off apps. That avoids having 2 SKUs and licenses
needed per user as well as being able to have the newly turned
on app generally patched to the correct level (depending on which
ORK strategy for updating clients you've enabled.

When you install two separate MSI (SKU) packages the updates from
one don't automatically follow to the 2nd product.

=======
Hello,

I've created a MST tranform to install Office 2003 Professional without
Outlook (I've check out Outlook as hidden, lock and checked to not uninstall
any previous Outlook version). I've used pro11.msi as a source.

After this I've used an INI file to chain SP1 in this installation and some
other patches (security, new dictionaries, etc.).

After this installation, if I go to Office Update, the status of my
installation is good! I didn't need any patch.

Then, I create a new MST file with only Outlook. I'm using outl11.msi as the
source. In this package I unchecked all features except Outlook. I check the
options to remove all previous Outlook versions.

After I install Outlook using this transform, when I go to Office Update I
have a lot of patches to install (including those installed bye the first
setup of Office).

I can solve this problem, chaining the same Office updates in the Outlook
installation, but is this the correct option to do this kind of
installations? Is there any problems for installing the same patches again?

Thank you very much. >>
--
Let us know if this helped you,

Bob Buckland ?
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

For Everyday MS Office tips to "use right away" -
http://microsoft.com/events/series/administrativetipsandtricks.mspx

 

[Bob Buckland ?:-\)]

Hi Manel,

To add to J.P.'s reply - your Pro11.msi includes Outlook 2003.
You can use the custom installation Wizard (CMW) from the
Office 2003 Resource Kit (ORK) (http://microsoft.com/office/ork/2003)
to change the installed feature set of your deployed Office 2003
to turn on or off apps. That avoids having 2 SKUs and licenses
needed per user as well as being able to have the newly turned
on app generally patched to the correct level (depending on which
ORK strategy for updating clients you've enabled.

When you install two separate MSI (SKU) packages the updates from
one don't automatically follow to the 2nd product.

=======
Hello,

I've created a MST tranform to install Office 2003 Professional without
Outlook (I've check out Outlook as hidden, lock and checked to not uninstall
any previous Outlook version). I've used pro11.msi as a source.

After this I've used an INI file to chain SP1 in this installation and some
other patches (security, new dictionaries, etc.).

After this installation, if I go to Office Update, the status of my
installation is good! I didn't need any patch.

Then, I create a new MST file with only Outlook. I'm using outl11.msi as the
source. In this package I unchecked all features except Outlook. I check the
options to remove all previous Outlook versions.

After I install Outlook using this transform, when I go to Office Update I
have a lot of patches to install (including those installed bye the first
setup of Office).

I can solve this problem, chaining the same Office updates in the Outlook
installation, but is this the correct option to do this kind of
installations? Is there any problems for installing the same patches again?

Thank you very much. >>
--
Let us know if this helped you,

Bob Buckland ?
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

For Everyday MS Office tips to "use right away" -
http://microsoft.com/events/series/administrativetipsandtricks.mspx

 

[Manel Rodero]

Hello again,

Yes and not. Yes, I can use CMW to "add" Outlook to the installation but in
this manner the install process CAN'T uninstall old Outlook and I'll have a
big problem (this is stated in resource kit).

I have Outlook outside of the main installation process because Outlook
isn't used in our environment: we use IMAP servers. But some people want to
use Outlook to access these IMAP servers, so I must create an standalone
Outlook installation.

I've "solved" the problem with the patches by applying (chain) the same
patches that I apply in the Office installation but I don't know if this will
result in problems with the Office installation itself.

Any more idea?

Thank you.