why do clients want stupid stuff?

C

Crash Gordon

Ok...this is just a rhetorical bitch session.

Why do clients want stupid stuff :

like fonts that no one in the world has installed on their machine? Follow up question...why can't I see the font I want...it's on our printed newsletter! - DUH!

Another one..."I don't want links to anywhere...", and the follow up..."Why isn't anyone visiting my site?" - Duh.

Why can't you use this great out of focus, washed out .jpg that has been opened and resaved so many times it's unrecognizable? Huh? Why, it looks great on my 9" monochrome monitor! ?

Does anyone have a good answer for client's like this??

:)

Rob
 
D

Derek Martin

I'd make them pay more for being that dumb!


Ok...this is just a rhetorical bitch session.

Why do clients want stupid stuff :

like fonts that no one in the world has installed on their machine? Follow
up question...why can't I see the font I want...it's on our printed
newsletter! - DUH!

Another one..."I don't want links to anywhere...", and the follow up..."Why
isn't anyone visiting my site?" - Duh.

Why can't you use this great out of focus, washed out .jpg that has been
opened and resaved so many times it's unrecognizable? Huh? Why, it looks
great on my 9" monochrome monitor! ?

Does anyone have a good answer for client's like this??

:)

Rob
 
C

Crash Gordon

Ah! Great idea; a sliding scale of rates based upon stupid questions!
I think my attorney charges me this way! :)

r.



| I'd make them pay more for being that dumb!
|
|
| | Ok...this is just a rhetorical bitch session.
|
| Why do clients want stupid stuff :
|
| like fonts that no one in the world has installed on their machine? Follow
| up question...why can't I see the font I want...it's on our printed
| newsletter! - DUH!
|
| Another one..."I don't want links to anywhere...", and the follow up..."Why
| isn't anyone visiting my site?" - Duh.
|
| Why can't you use this great out of focus, washed out .jpg that has been
| opened and resaved so many times it's unrecognizable? Huh? Why, it looks
| great on my 9" monochrome monitor! ?
|
| Does anyone have a good answer for client's like this??
|
| :)
|
| Rob
|
|
|
| --
| From: "Crash Gordon"
| email: [email protected]
|
|
|
 
K

Kevin Spencer

Hi Rob,

Been there. Done that. How you handle it depends a great deal on your money
situation, and state of business. Any client that doesn't listen to their
WebMaster and makes decisions that are counter-productive to the success of
their web site isn't likely to be a client for long. So, I have "fired"
clients in the past. But of course you have to have enough business to
support that. Otherwise, just make sure they pay you up front, and well!

--
HTH,
Kevin Spencer
..Net Developer
Microsoft MVP
Big things are made up
of lots of little things.

Ok...this is just a rhetorical bitch session.

Why do clients want stupid stuff :

like fonts that no one in the world has installed on their machine? Follow
up question...why can't I see the font I want...it's on our printed
newsletter! - DUH!

Another one..."I don't want links to anywhere...", and the follow up..."Why
isn't anyone visiting my site?" - Duh.

Why can't you use this great out of focus, washed out .jpg that has been
opened and resaved so many times it's unrecognizable? Huh? Why, it looks
great on my 9" monochrome monitor! ?

Does anyone have a good answer for client's like this??

:)

Rob
 
T

Tom Pepper Willett

Explain to them that you are quite aware that they know more about running
their business than you do, and it would be presumptuous of you to make
suggestions or demands about how they run their business.

And that they should be understanding that you know how to run your
business.
--
Tom Pepper Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
http://msdn.microsoft.com/frontpage
-----
Ok...this is just a rhetorical bitch session.

Why do clients want stupid stuff :

like fonts that no one in the world has installed on their machine? Follow
up question...why can't I see the font I want...it's on our printed
newsletter! - DUH!

Another one..."I don't want links to anywhere...", and the follow up..."Why
isn't anyone visiting my site?" - Duh.

Why can't you use this great out of focus, washed out .jpg that has been
opened and resaved so many times it's unrecognizable? Huh? Why, it looks
great on my 9" monochrome monitor! ?

Does anyone have a good answer for client's like this??

:)

Rob
 
C

Crash Gordon

I guess I'm gonna have problems, being a Scorpio artist...I hate when people want something that just looks like crap or is just too stupid for words!

This lady is paranoid she will *lose* students (here in Arizona) if I put up another dance school's link... the school is in *ENGLAND* ??

SHEESH !!

Just another one of those days I guess!

Rob


| Explain to them that you are quite aware that they know more about running
| their business than you do, and it would be presumptuous of you to make
| suggestions or demands about how they run their business.
|
| And that they should be understanding that you know how to run your
| business.
| --
| Tom Pepper Willett
| Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
| http://msdn.microsoft.com/frontpage
| -----
| | Ok...this is just a rhetorical bitch session.
|
| Why do clients want stupid stuff :
|
| like fonts that no one in the world has installed on their machine? Follow
| up question...why can't I see the font I want...it's on our printed
| newsletter! - DUH!
|
| Another one..."I don't want links to anywhere...", and the follow up..."Why
| isn't anyone visiting my site?" - Duh.
|
| Why can't you use this great out of focus, washed out .jpg that has been
| opened and resaved so many times it's unrecognizable? Huh? Why, it looks
| great on my 9" monochrome monitor! ?
|
| Does anyone have a good answer for client's like this??
|
| :)
|
| Rob
|
|
|
| --
| From: "Crash Gordon"
| email: [email protected]
|
|
|
 
S

Steve Easton

LOL.
Because they just don't understand and it's part of
the "education process"

My favorite line is "You can pay me to do it your way the first
time and then you can pay me again to do it right the second time.
OR, you can just pay me one time to do it right the first time."

"Which would you prefer"

--
Steve Easton
MS MVP FrontPage
95isalive
This site is best viewed..................
...............................with a computer

Ok...this is just a rhetorical bitch session.

Why do clients want stupid stuff :

like fonts that no one in the world has installed on their machine? Follow
up question...why can't I see the font I want...it's on our printed
newsletter! - DUH!

Another one..."I don't want links to anywhere...", and the follow up..."Why
isn't anyone visiting my site?" - Duh.

Why can't you use this great out of focus, washed out .jpg that has been
opened and resaved so many times it's unrecognizable? Huh? Why, it looks
great on my 9" monochrome monitor! ?

Does anyone have a good answer for client's like this??

:)

Rob
 
C

Crash Gordon

A man after my own heart!
I usually charge double on "re-do's" due to stupidity on client's part.

I think I'm gonna start a gripe forum - or should I say; a "support" forum? "Hi, my name is Rob and my clients are making me crazy..."

robo


| LOL.
| Because they just don't understand and it's part of
| the "education process"
|
| My favorite line is "You can pay me to do it your way the first
| time and then you can pay me again to do it right the second time.
| OR, you can just pay me one time to do it right the first time."
|
| "Which would you prefer"
|
| --
| Steve Easton
| MS MVP FrontPage
| 95isalive
| This site is best viewed..................
| ..............................with a computer
|
| | Ok...this is just a rhetorical bitch session.
|
| Why do clients want stupid stuff :
|
| like fonts that no one in the world has installed on their machine? Follow
| up question...why can't I see the font I want...it's on our printed
| newsletter! - DUH!
|
| Another one..."I don't want links to anywhere...", and the follow up..."Why
| isn't anyone visiting my site?" - Duh.
|
| Why can't you use this great out of focus, washed out .jpg that has been
| opened and resaved so many times it's unrecognizable? Huh? Why, it looks
| great on my 9" monochrome monitor! ?
|
| Does anyone have a good answer for client's like this??
|
| :)
|
| Rob
|
|
|
| --
| From: "Crash Gordon"
| email: [email protected]
|
|
|
 
J

Jack Brewster

HI ROB!

:)

--
Jack Brewster - Microsoft FrontPage MVP

A man after my own heart!
I usually charge double on "re-do's" due to stupidity on client's part.

I think I'm gonna start a gripe forum - or should I say; a "support" forum?
"Hi, my name is Rob and my clients are making me crazy..."

robo
 
J

Jim Buyens

Two thoughts:

o Thank your lucky stars for these clueless clients.
If they knew very much about Web design, they
wouldn't need to hire you.

o If the demands get too ridiculous, quote a ridiculous
price. "That's very hard for me to do," cuts no ice
with such people. "That'll cost you a lot of money,"
carries much more weight.

Jim Buyens
Microsoft FrontPage MVP
http://www.interlacken.com
Author of:
*----------------------------------------------------
|\---------------------------------------------------
|| Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003 Inside Out
||---------------------------------------------------
|| Web Database Development Step by Step .NET Edition
|| Microsoft FrontPage Version 2002 Inside Out
|| Faster Smarter Beginning Programming
|| (All from Microsoft Press)
|/---------------------------------------------------
*----------------------------------------------------


-----Original Message-----
Ok...this is just a rhetorical bitch session.

Why do clients want stupid stuff :

like fonts that no one in the world has installed on
their machine? Follow up question...why can't I see the
font I want...it's on our printed newsletter! - DUH!

Another one..."I don't want links to anywhere...", and
Click to expand...
the follow up..."Why isn't anyone visiting my site?" - Duh.
 
B

Bill

...
A man after my own heart!
I usually charge double on "re-do's" due to stupidity on client's part.

I think I'm gonna start a gripe forum - or should I say; a "support"
Click to expand...
forum? "Hi, my name is Rob and my clients > are making me crazy..."
Hello, Rob - we're here for you, man.

O.K., now, group hug...
 
J

Joe Rohn

Hi Rob,

One thing to explain about links is that Google ranks sites higher with the
more "quality" links that they have. (in coming) That process though should
go both ways. Also tell her that they have retired all of the Concordes! <G>

--
Joe
Remove "AA" for email

FrontPage Users Forums at:
http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage/

I guess I'm gonna have problems, being a Scorpio artist...I hate when people
want something that just looks like crap or is just too stupid for words!

This lady is paranoid she will *lose* students (here in Arizona) if I put up
another dance school's link... the school is in *ENGLAND* ??

SHEESH !!

Just another one of those days I guess!

Rob


| Explain to them that you are quite aware that they know more about running
| their business than you do, and it would be presumptuous of you to make
| suggestions or demands about how they run their business.
|
| And that they should be understanding that you know how to run your
| business.
| --
| Tom Pepper Willett
| Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
| http://msdn.microsoft.com/frontpage
| -----
| | Ok...this is just a rhetorical bitch session.
|
| Why do clients want stupid stuff :
|
| like fonts that no one in the world has installed on their machine?
Follow
| up question...why can't I see the font I want...it's on our printed
| newsletter! - DUH!
|
| Another one..."I don't want links to anywhere...", and the follow
up..."Why
| isn't anyone visiting my site?" - Duh.
|
| Why can't you use this great out of focus, washed out .jpg that has been
| opened and resaved so many times it's unrecognizable? Huh? Why, it looks
| great on my 9" monochrome monitor! ?
|
| Does anyone have a good answer for client's like this??
|
| :)
|
| Rob
|
|
|
| --
| From: "Crash Gordon"
| email: [email protected]
|
|
|
 
C

Crash Gordon

Yah, I know, but try explaining it to someone who really should not have a web presence with this frame of mind...it's like they want it to be a little private scrapbook.

Go figure.

Rob


| Hi Rob,
|
| One thing to explain about links is that Google ranks sites higher with the
| more "quality" links that they have. (in coming) That process though should
| go both ways. Also tell her that they have retired all of the Concordes! <G>
|
| --
| Joe
| Remove "AA" for email
|
| FrontPage Users Forums at:
| http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage/
|
| | I guess I'm gonna have problems, being a Scorpio artist...I hate when people
| want something that just looks like crap or is just too stupid for words!
|
| This lady is paranoid she will *lose* students (here in Arizona) if I put up
| another dance school's link... the school is in *ENGLAND* ??
|
| SHEESH !!
|
| Just another one of those days I guess!
|
| Rob
|
|
| | | Explain to them that you are quite aware that they know more about running
| | their business than you do, and it would be presumptuous of you to make
| | suggestions or demands about how they run their business.
| |
| | And that they should be understanding that you know how to run your
| | business.
| | --
| | Tom Pepper Willett
| | Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| | http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
| | http://msdn.microsoft.com/frontpage
| | -----
| | | | Ok...this is just a rhetorical bitch session.
| |
| | Why do clients want stupid stuff :
| |
| | like fonts that no one in the world has installed on their machine?
| Follow
| | up question...why can't I see the font I want...it's on our printed
| | newsletter! - DUH!
| |
| | Another one..."I don't want links to anywhere...", and the follow
| up..."Why
| | isn't anyone visiting my site?" - Duh.
| |
| | Why can't you use this great out of focus, washed out .jpg that has been
| | opened and resaved so many times it's unrecognizable? Huh? Why, it looks
| | great on my 9" monochrome monitor! ?
| |
| | Does anyone have a good answer for client's like this??
| |
| | :)
| |
| | Rob
| |
| |
| |
| | --
| | From: "Crash Gordon"
| | email: [email protected]
| |
| |
| |
|
|
 
C

Crash Gordon

Oh thanks guys! I feel so much better now!
....more kawfee anyone?

heheeeee..

r.


|
| > "Crash Gordon" wrote...
| > A man after my own heart!
| > I usually charge double on "re-do's" due to stupidity on client's part.
| >
| > I think I'm gonna start a gripe forum - or should I say; a "support"
| forum? "Hi, my name is Rob and my clients > are making me crazy..."
| >
|
| Hello, Rob - we're here for you, man.
|
| O.K., now, group hug...
|
|
 
C

Crash Gordon

Good!
A positive way to look at it!

r.
| Two thoughts:
|
| o Thank your lucky stars for these clueless clients.
| If they knew very much about Web design, they
| wouldn't need to hire you.
|
| o If the demands get too ridiculous, quote a ridiculous
| price. "That's very hard for me to do," cuts no ice
| with such people. "That'll cost you a lot of money,"
| carries much more weight.
|
| Jim Buyens
| Microsoft FrontPage MVP
| http://www.interlacken.com
| Author of:
| *----------------------------------------------------
| |\---------------------------------------------------
| || Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003 Inside Out
| ||---------------------------------------------------
| || Web Database Development Step by Step .NET Edition
| || Microsoft FrontPage Version 2002 Inside Out
| || Faster Smarter Beginning Programming
| || (All from Microsoft Press)
| |/---------------------------------------------------
| *----------------------------------------------------
|
|
|
| >-----Original Message-----
| >Ok...this is just a rhetorical bitch session.
| >
| >Why do clients want stupid stuff :
| >
| >like fonts that no one in the world has installed on
| >their machine? Follow up question...why can't I see the
| >font I want...it's on our printed newsletter! - DUH!
| >
| >Another one..."I don't want links to anywhere...", and
| the follow up..."Why isn't anyone visiting my site?" - Duh.
| >
| >Why can't you use this great out of focus, washed
| >out .jpg that has been opened and resaved so many times
| >it's unrecognizable? Huh? Why, it looks great on my 9"
| >monochrome monitor! ?
| >
| >Does anyone have a good answer for client's like this??
| >
| >:)
| >
| >Rob
| >
| >
| >
| >--
| >From: "Crash Gordon"
| >email: [email protected]
| >
| >
| >.
| >
 
C

chris leeds

put a real simple CMS in their web for the "about us" section. a good one
that I like is http://cmsimple.dk
then she can blog and scrapbook to her hearts content right through a
browser.

Yah, I know, but try explaining it to someone who really should not have a
web presence with this frame of mind...it's like they want it to be a little
private scrapbook.

Go figure.

Rob


| Hi Rob,
|
| One thing to explain about links is that Google ranks sites higher with
the
| more "quality" links that they have. (in coming) That process though
should
| go both ways. Also tell her that they have retired all of the Concordes!
<G>
|
| --
| Joe
| Remove "AA" for email
|
| FrontPage Users Forums at:
| http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage/
|
| | I guess I'm gonna have problems, being a Scorpio artist...I hate when
people
| want something that just looks like crap or is just too stupid for words!
|
| This lady is paranoid she will *lose* students (here in Arizona) if I put
up
| another dance school's link... the school is in *ENGLAND* ??
|
| SHEESH !!
|
| Just another one of those days I guess!
|
| Rob
|
|
| | | Explain to them that you are quite aware that they know more about
running
| | their business than you do, and it would be presumptuous of you to make
| | suggestions or demands about how they run their business.
| |
| | And that they should be understanding that you know how to run your
| | business.
| | --
| | Tom Pepper Willett
| | Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| | http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
| | http://msdn.microsoft.com/frontpage
| | -----
| | | | Ok...this is just a rhetorical bitch session.
| |
| | Why do clients want stupid stuff :
| |
| | like fonts that no one in the world has installed on their machine?
| Follow
| | up question...why can't I see the font I want...it's on our printed
| | newsletter! - DUH!
| |
| | Another one..."I don't want links to anywhere...", and the follow
| up..."Why
| | isn't anyone visiting my site?" - Duh.
| |
| | Why can't you use this great out of focus, washed out .jpg that has been
| | opened and resaved so many times it's unrecognizable? Huh? Why, it looks
| | great on my 9" monochrome monitor! ?
| |
| | Does anyone have a good answer for client's like this??
| |
| | :)
| |
| | Rob
| |
| |
| |
| | --
| | From: "Crash Gordon"
| | email: [email protected]
| |
| |
| |
|
|
 
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