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I did not disagree, I merely wondered if the fact that when launching from
within Access the program itself is running might be a possible cause. Once
again MS advise shutting down most programs during updates and Access is a
program...
I am well aware of the efforts made by genuine MVPs who wish to assist, I am
also aware of a few spurious self appointed authorities who wish to amplify
their self importance, avail everyone who is not even remotely interested of
their vast and authoritative knowledge and chastise or belittle anyone who
questions their motives, but you are still wrong. The problems with the
update site could well cause some Access users a few problems. For solutions
to the "Usual" problems the MS sites and help files are usually enough, but
for unusual or rare problems newsgroups can be far more valuable. Frankly I
don't see that we disagree too much about the "Unusual" nature of some
problems and I suspect we also would have to agree that problems which an
expert could fix easily can become fatal if a less familiar user starts off
with the wrong diagnosis or applies the wrong fix. I accept that I first
failed to point out exactly WHY I was concerned that the launch with Access
actually running "seemed like" a possibility, but I would suggest that a
simple "I think it's unlikely that Access caused it" would have done instead
of the tirade aimed at the original poster (which if you remember was not
me).
As to your second paragraph, well read it again and see what you actually
said. Why did YOU choose to answer when you felt the question was not
relevant to Access?
My concern, even as a newcomer to Access (Relatively speaking) was simply to
ask the question so that others would be aware of a situation which, by your
own admission, might be quite rare. It is by no means impossible that we
have both misunderstood each other's motives from the start, however whilst
I am making every effort to see your point of view, particularly given the
awkward naming convention of the group, you seem determined to pursue this
systematic ridicule as far as you possibly can.
Now, as far as newsgroup etiquette goes I had searched what I had downloaded
from the group and found no solution (or nothing sounding very like) my
experience until the OP popped up with the French Grammar checker post which
did sound very familiar. Considering that his post sounded as though it was
half intended to be humorous and considering that Access is part of a suite
that just "Might" be relevant I saw little harm in it and responded, that is
ALL that happened. Nobody lost any money, nobody died, 2 people got their
pride dented. Life is like that sometimes. It doesn't really matter whether
we argue or whether anybody eventually wins, I'm sure we both have better
things to do.
Charlie
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worn comments over and over?
You disagree with this since Access can launch Office Update, just like
other applications in the MS Office Suite. You'll find that this opinion
is in the minority within the group of people who spend time answering
questions in this newsgroup.
I did not disagree, I merely wondered if the fact that when launching from
within Access the program itself is running might be a possible cause. Once
again MS advise shutting down most programs during updates and Access is a
program...
Why do I mention this particular group? Because these are the people who
decide which questions they can and want to answer. These are very
generous people who offer their expertise to those in need -- without any
compensation -- and know their own abilities, so they're the best
qualified to make the decision on which questions get answered -- or not.
I am well aware of the efforts made by genuine MVPs who wish to assist, I am
also aware of a few spurious self appointed authorities who wish to amplify
their self importance, avail everyone who is not even remotely interested of
their vast and authoritative knowledge and chastise or belittle anyone who
questions their motives, but you are still wrong. The problems with the
update site could well cause some Access users a few problems. For solutions
to the "Usual" problems the MS sites and help files are usually enough, but
for unusual or rare problems newsgroups can be far more valuable. Frankly I
don't see that we disagree too much about the "Unusual" nature of some
problems and I suspect we also would have to agree that problems which an
expert could fix easily can become fatal if a less familiar user starts off
with the wrong diagnosis or applies the wrong fix. I accept that I first
failed to point out exactly WHY I was concerned that the launch with Access
actually running "seemed like" a possibility, but I would suggest that a
simple "I think it's unlikely that Access caused it" would have done instead
of the tirade aimed at the original poster (which if you remember was not
me).
As to your second paragraph, well read it again and see what you actually
said. Why did YOU choose to answer when you felt the question was not
relevant to Access?
My concern, even as a newcomer to Access (Relatively speaking) was simply to
ask the question so that others would be aware of a situation which, by your
own admission, might be quite rare. It is by no means impossible that we
have both misunderstood each other's motives from the start, however whilst
I am making every effort to see your point of view, particularly given the
awkward naming convention of the group, you seem determined to pursue this
systematic ridicule as far as you possibly can.
Now, as far as newsgroup etiquette goes I had searched what I had downloaded
from the group and found no solution (or nothing sounding very like) my
experience until the OP popped up with the French Grammar checker post which
did sound very familiar. Considering that his post sounded as though it was
half intended to be humorous and considering that Access is part of a suite
that just "Might" be relevant I saw little harm in it and responded, that is
ALL that happened. Nobody lost any money, nobody died, 2 people got their
pride dented. Life is like that sometimes. It doesn't really matter whether
we argue or whether anybody eventually wins, I'm sure we both have better
things to do.
Charlie