a WHITE BORDER IS LEFT WHEN i ATTEMPT A FULL COLOR BACKGROUND

D

David Gauthier

Either in Word or Publisher, when applying an entire page color background, I
am always left with a white border on the page. How can I get the entire page
backgrond to print?
 
M

Michele

David,

I found out I had the same problem, unfortunately. It is a printer issue.
Not many printers "bleed out" they way you see in magazines. Always the 1/16
of an inch white border. It is what keeps fantastic Publisher results from
looking entirely professional. So frustrating. Are you listening HP?
 
J

JoAnn Paules [MVP]

It's not just HP. You need to spend a bit more for the printer to get that
result.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
 
D

drc023

Is $80 too much for a full bleed printer which also has auto duplex? That's
what a Canon iP4200 costs. Plus, the individual ink cartridges can be
refilled for next to nothing which makes it a very economical printer to
use.
--
Ron

JoAnn Paules said:
It's not just HP. You need to spend a bit more for the printer to get that
result.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]




Michele said:
David,

I found out I had the same problem, unfortunately. It is a printer issue.
Not many printers "bleed out" they way you see in magazines. Always the
1/16
of an inch white border. It is what keeps fantastic Publisher results
from
looking entirely professional. So frustrating. Are you listening HP?
 
J

JoAnn Paules [MVP]

Actually I would be surprised if an $80 printer would do it. And don't use
those refill fits. They aren't worth the money you're saving.

I just looked that printer up. It will only do a 4" x 6" borderless.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]




drc023 said:
Is $80 too much for a full bleed printer which also has auto duplex?
That's what a Canon iP4200 costs. Plus, the individual ink cartridges can
be refilled for next to nothing which makes it a very economical printer
to use.
--
Ron

JoAnn Paules said:
It's not just HP. You need to spend a bit more for the printer to get
that result.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]




Michele said:
David,

I found out I had the same problem, unfortunately. It is a printer
issue.
Not many printers "bleed out" they way you see in magazines. Always the
1/16
of an inch white border. It is what keeps fantastic Publisher results
from
looking entirely professional. So frustrating. Are you listening HP?
:

Could be your printer's margin limitations
Tutorial: Finding your Maximum Print Area
http://ed.mvps.org/Static.aspx?=Publisher/horidiag

--
Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
http://office.microsoft.com/
http://msauer.mvps.org/
news://msnews.microsoft.com
http://officebeta.iponet.net/en-us/publisher/FX100649111033.aspx

message
Either in Word or Publisher, when applying an entire page color
background, I
am always left with a white border on the page. How can I get the
entire page
backgrond to print?
 
M

Microsoft

Wrong JoAnn.

I have the previous one, the Canon Pixma IP4000, and it does full bleed A4
sheets!
The Canon Pixma IP4000/5000 series is a bargain.

But I agree, pay the modest price for original ink cartridges, its the best.

Terje


JoAnn Paules said:
Actually I would be surprised if an $80 printer would do it. And don't use
those refill fits. They aren't worth the money you're saving.

I just looked that printer up. It will only do a 4" x 6" borderless.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]




drc023 said:
Is $80 too much for a full bleed printer which also has auto duplex?
That's what a Canon iP4200 costs. Plus, the individual ink cartridges can
be refilled for next to nothing which makes it a very economical printer
to use.
--
Ron

JoAnn Paules said:
It's not just HP. You need to spend a bit more for the printer to get
that result.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]





David,

I found out I had the same problem, unfortunately. It is a printer
issue.
Not many printers "bleed out" they way you see in magazines. Always the
1/16
of an inch white border. It is what keeps fantastic Publisher results
from
looking entirely professional. So frustrating. Are you listening HP?
:

Could be your printer's margin limitations
Tutorial: Finding your Maximum Print Area
http://ed.mvps.org/Static.aspx?=Publisher/horidiag

--
Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
http://office.microsoft.com/
http://msauer.mvps.org/
news://msnews.microsoft.com
http://officebeta.iponet.net/en-us/publisher/FX100649111033.aspx

message
Either in Word or Publisher, when applying an entire page color
background, I
am always left with a white border on the page. How can I get the
entire page
backgrond to print?
 
J

JoAnn Paules [MVP]

I pulled the specs and it says 4" x 6".

My husband bought a refill kit once. What a waste of money! Plus even tho
he's really careful, he still had an inky mess and everything printed in
murky colors.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]




Microsoft said:
Wrong JoAnn.

I have the previous one, the Canon Pixma IP4000, and it does full bleed A4
sheets!
The Canon Pixma IP4000/5000 series is a bargain.

But I agree, pay the modest price for original ink cartridges, its the
best.

Terje


JoAnn Paules said:
Actually I would be surprised if an $80 printer would do it. And don't
use those refill fits. They aren't worth the money you're saving.

I just looked that printer up. It will only do a 4" x 6" borderless.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]




drc023 said:
Is $80 too much for a full bleed printer which also has auto duplex?
That's what a Canon iP4200 costs. Plus, the individual ink cartridges
can be refilled for next to nothing which makes it a very economical
printer to use.
--
Ron

It's not just HP. You need to spend a bit more for the printer to get
that result.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]





David,

I found out I had the same problem, unfortunately. It is a printer
issue.
Not many printers "bleed out" they way you see in magazines. Always
the 1/16
of an inch white border. It is what keeps fantastic Publisher results
from
looking entirely professional. So frustrating. Are you listening HP?
:

Could be your printer's margin limitations
Tutorial: Finding your Maximum Print Area
http://ed.mvps.org/Static.aspx?=Publisher/horidiag

--
Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
http://office.microsoft.com/
http://msauer.mvps.org/
news://msnews.microsoft.com
http://officebeta.iponet.net/en-us/publisher/FX100649111033.aspx

message
Either in Word or Publisher, when applying an entire page color
background, I
am always left with a white border on the page. How can I get the
entire page
backgrond to print?
 
M

Microsoft

You pulled the wrong specs!

It prints 10x15, 13x18, A4, Credit Card to the edge!

Regards Terje

JoAnn Paules said:
I pulled the specs and it says 4" x 6".

My husband bought a refill kit once. What a waste of money! Plus even tho
he's really careful, he still had an inky mess and everything printed in
murky colors.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]




Microsoft said:
Wrong JoAnn.

I have the previous one, the Canon Pixma IP4000, and it does full bleed
A4 sheets!
The Canon Pixma IP4000/5000 series is a bargain.

But I agree, pay the modest price for original ink cartridges, its the
best.

Terje


JoAnn Paules said:
Actually I would be surprised if an $80 printer would do it. And don't
use those refill fits. They aren't worth the money you're saving.

I just looked that printer up. It will only do a 4" x 6" borderless.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]




Is $80 too much for a full bleed printer which also has auto duplex?
That's what a Canon iP4200 costs. Plus, the individual ink cartridges
can be refilled for next to nothing which makes it a very economical
printer to use.
--
Ron

It's not just HP. You need to spend a bit more for the printer to get
that result.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]





David,

I found out I had the same problem, unfortunately. It is a printer
issue.
Not many printers "bleed out" they way you see in magazines. Always
the 1/16
of an inch white border. It is what keeps fantastic Publisher results
from
looking entirely professional. So frustrating. Are you listening HP?
:

Could be your printer's margin limitations
Tutorial: Finding your Maximum Print Area
http://ed.mvps.org/Static.aspx?=Publisher/horidiag

--
Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
http://office.microsoft.com/
http://msauer.mvps.org/
news://msnews.microsoft.com
http://officebeta.iponet.net/en-us/publisher/FX100649111033.aspx

message
Either in Word or Publisher, when applying an entire page color
background, I
am always left with a white border on the page. How can I get the
entire page
backgrond to print?
 
M

Mary Sauer

The problem with Publisher it doesn't recognize borderless printing with some
printers. Mine is a good example. I save the whole page as an image and use the
printer software to print my document.

--
Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
http://office.microsoft.com/

http://officebeta.iponet.net/en-us/publisher/FX100649111033.aspx

Microsoft said:
You pulled the wrong specs!

It prints 10x15, 13x18, A4, Credit Card to the edge!

Regards Terje

JoAnn Paules said:
I pulled the specs and it says 4" x 6".

My husband bought a refill kit once. What a waste of money! Plus even tho
he's really careful, he still had an inky mess and everything printed in
murky colors.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]




Microsoft said:
Wrong JoAnn.

I have the previous one, the Canon Pixma IP4000, and it does full bleed A4
sheets!
The Canon Pixma IP4000/5000 series is a bargain.

But I agree, pay the modest price for original ink cartridges, its the best.

Terje


"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" <[email protected]> skrev i melding
Actually I would be surprised if an $80 printer would do it. And don't use
those refill fits. They aren't worth the money you're saving.

I just looked that printer up. It will only do a 4" x 6" borderless.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]




Is $80 too much for a full bleed printer which also has auto duplex?
That's what a Canon iP4200 costs. Plus, the individual ink cartridges can
be refilled for next to nothing which makes it a very economical printer
to use.
--
Ron

It's not just HP. You need to spend a bit more for the printer to get
that result.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]





David,

I found out I had the same problem, unfortunately. It is a printer
issue.
Not many printers "bleed out" they way you see in magazines. Always the
1/16
of an inch white border. It is what keeps fantastic Publisher results
from
looking entirely professional. So frustrating. Are you listening HP?
:

Could be your printer's margin limitations
Tutorial: Finding your Maximum Print Area
http://ed.mvps.org/Static.aspx?=Publisher/horidiag

--
Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
http://office.microsoft.com/
http://msauer.mvps.org/
news://msnews.microsoft.com
http://officebeta.iponet.net/en-us/publisher/FX100649111033.aspx

message
Either in Word or Publisher, when applying an entire page color
background, I
am always left with a white border on the page. How can I get the
entire page
backgrond to print?
 
D

drc023

I print borderless 8.5 x 11 all the time with my Canon printers. My favorite
is the iP4000 which does fine with Publisher. It's also an excellent printer
for envelopes. It will handle a stack of 25 without any complaints. As to
refilling, Canon printers are completely different than HP or Lexmark
inkjets which are far more difficult to refill. On Canon printers each color
is an individual tank which is nothing more than an ink holder. They are
clear plastic which enables you to see exactly how much ink you are putting
into them. I won't go into detail here about how to refill other than to say
if one doesn't have the manual dexterity to use a disposable syringe to draw
ink from a bottle and squirt it into another container, they have far more
things to worry about than saving nearly the entire cost of the printer with
each refill. The process isn't difficult or messy at all. I refill right at
my desk and use nothing more than a paper towel to blot up the occasional
drip. Hands don't get messy, nor do clothes. Just use a little common sense.
As to refill kits that you can buy in stores - stay away from them. The ink
is a generic/universal type which isn't formulated for a specific printer.
There are numerous online vendors selling ink specifically formulated for
Canon printers. Canon iP4200's can be purchased for as little as $80 and a
full set of tanks is included with the printer. However, a replacement set
costs about $70+ vs. a refill cost of less than $5 per set. At a minimum
savings of $65 per set I can easily justify refilling, but I could never
justify spending $70 just for a single set of ink tanks. Check out
http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/ for complete information on refilling
Canon printers.
--
Ron

JoAnn Paules said:
I pulled the specs and it says 4" x 6".

My husband bought a refill kit once. What a waste of money! Plus even tho
he's really careful, he still had an inky mess and everything printed in
murky colors.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]




Microsoft said:
Wrong JoAnn.

I have the previous one, the Canon Pixma IP4000, and it does full bleed
A4 sheets!
The Canon Pixma IP4000/5000 series is a bargain.

But I agree, pay the modest price for original ink cartridges, its the
best.

Terje


JoAnn Paules said:
Actually I would be surprised if an $80 printer would do it. And don't
use those refill fits. They aren't worth the money you're saving.

I just looked that printer up. It will only do a 4" x 6" borderless.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]




Is $80 too much for a full bleed printer which also has auto duplex?
That's what a Canon iP4200 costs. Plus, the individual ink cartridges
can be refilled for next to nothing which makes it a very economical
printer to use.
--
Ron

It's not just HP. You need to spend a bit more for the printer to get
that result.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]





David,

I found out I had the same problem, unfortunately. It is a printer
issue.
Not many printers "bleed out" they way you see in magazines. Always
the 1/16
of an inch white border. It is what keeps fantastic Publisher results
from
looking entirely professional. So frustrating. Are you listening HP?
:

Could be your printer's margin limitations
Tutorial: Finding your Maximum Print Area
http://ed.mvps.org/Static.aspx?=Publisher/horidiag

--
Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
http://office.microsoft.com/
http://msauer.mvps.org/
news://msnews.microsoft.com
http://officebeta.iponet.net/en-us/publisher/FX100649111033.aspx

message
Either in Word or Publisher, when applying an entire page color
background, I
am always left with a white border on the page. How can I get the
entire page
backgrond to print?
 
J

JoAnn Paules [MVP]

Not going to convince me. Our first printer was a Canon and I will never buy
another one.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]




drc023 said:
I print borderless 8.5 x 11 all the time with my Canon printers. My
favorite is the iP4000 which does fine with Publisher. It's also an
excellent printer for envelopes. It will handle a stack of 25 without any
complaints. As to refilling, Canon printers are completely different than
HP or Lexmark inkjets which are far more difficult to refill. On Canon
printers each color is an individual tank which is nothing more than an ink
holder. They are clear plastic which enables you to see exactly how much
ink you are putting into them. I won't go into detail here about how to
refill other than to say if one doesn't have the manual dexterity to use a
disposable syringe to draw ink from a bottle and squirt it into another
container, they have far more things to worry about than saving nearly the
entire cost of the printer with each refill. The process isn't difficult or
messy at all. I refill right at my desk and use nothing more than a paper
towel to blot up the occasional drip. Hands don't get messy, nor do
clothes. Just use a little common sense. As to refill kits that you can buy
in stores - stay away from them. The ink is a generic/universal type which
isn't formulated for a specific printer. There are numerous online vendors
selling ink specifically formulated for Canon printers. Canon iP4200's can
be purchased for as little as $80 and a full set of tanks is included with
the printer. However, a replacement set costs about $70+ vs. a refill cost
of less than $5 per set. At a minimum savings of $65 per set I can easily
justify refilling, but I could never justify spending $70 just for a single
set of ink tanks. Check out http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/ for complete
information on refilling Canon printers.
--
Ron

JoAnn Paules said:
I pulled the specs and it says 4" x 6".

My husband bought a refill kit once. What a waste of money! Plus even tho
he's really careful, he still had an inky mess and everything printed in
murky colors.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]




Microsoft said:
Wrong JoAnn.

I have the previous one, the Canon Pixma IP4000, and it does full bleed
A4 sheets!
The Canon Pixma IP4000/5000 series is a bargain.

But I agree, pay the modest price for original ink cartridges, its the
best.

Terje


"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" <[email protected]> skrev i melding
Actually I would be surprised if an $80 printer would do it. And don't
use those refill fits. They aren't worth the money you're saving.

I just looked that printer up. It will only do a 4" x 6" borderless.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]




Is $80 too much for a full bleed printer which also has auto duplex?
That's what a Canon iP4200 costs. Plus, the individual ink cartridges
can be refilled for next to nothing which makes it a very economical
printer to use.
--
Ron

It's not just HP. You need to spend a bit more for the printer to get
that result.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]





David,

I found out I had the same problem, unfortunately. It is a printer
issue.
Not many printers "bleed out" they way you see in magazines. Always
the 1/16
of an inch white border. It is what keeps fantastic Publisher
results from
looking entirely professional. So frustrating. Are you listening
HP?
:

Could be your printer's margin limitations
Tutorial: Finding your Maximum Print Area
http://ed.mvps.org/Static.aspx?=Publisher/horidiag

--
Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
http://office.microsoft.com/
http://msauer.mvps.org/
news://msnews.microsoft.com
http://officebeta.iponet.net/en-us/publisher/FX100649111033.aspx

in message
Either in Word or Publisher, when applying an entire page color
background, I
am always left with a white border on the page. How can I get the
entire page
backgrond to print?
 
E

Ed Bennett

JoAnn said:
Not going to convince me. Our first printer was a Canon and I will never buy
another one.

Amazing how many people I hear say that. Including me. If someone buys
me one and it works as well as it is said, then I might change my mind,
but I'm not using my own money on one.
 
D

DavidF

Ron,

I ended up buying the IP4000, based on your comments after the last time
this came up, and of course the reviews that I read. I am a HP diehard, and
have an HP 5 laser that just refuses to die, and has been in continuous use
since 1991. However, I have also gone through several HP inkjets, and have
been increasingly disappointed with their drivers, performance and cost of
ink. So when the last one died, I decided to take a chance and bought the
Canon, and it has been a terrific machine for the last 6 months or so. Its
fast, dependable, great output, features and even if you don't refill the
ink tanks, still much more economical to operate than the HP inkjets.

Yeah, the old bubble jet Canons didn't get very good reviews, but I am sure
glad I bought one of the modern machines. I will remain open minded, but I
doubt if I will go back to HP...except to replace my laser if it ever dies.

DavidF

drc023 said:
I print borderless 8.5 x 11 all the time with my Canon printers. My
favorite is the iP4000 which does fine with Publisher. It's also an
excellent printer for envelopes. It will handle a stack of 25 without any
complaints. As to refilling, Canon printers are completely different than
HP or Lexmark inkjets which are far more difficult to refill. On Canon
printers each color is an individual tank which is nothing more than an ink
holder. They are clear plastic which enables you to see exactly how much
ink you are putting into them. I won't go into detail here about how to
refill other than to say if one doesn't have the manual dexterity to use a
disposable syringe to draw ink from a bottle and squirt it into another
container, they have far more things to worry about than saving nearly the
entire cost of the printer with each refill. The process isn't difficult or
messy at all. I refill right at my desk and use nothing more than a paper
towel to blot up the occasional drip. Hands don't get messy, nor do
clothes. Just use a little common sense. As to refill kits that you can buy
in stores - stay away from them. The ink is a generic/universal type which
isn't formulated for a specific printer. There are numerous online vendors
selling ink specifically formulated for Canon printers. Canon iP4200's can
be purchased for as little as $80 and a full set of tanks is included with
the printer. However, a replacement set costs about $70+ vs. a refill cost
of less than $5 per set. At a minimum savings of $65 per set I can easily
justify refilling, but I could never justify spending $70 just for a single
set of ink tanks. Check out http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/ for complete
information on refilling Canon printers.
--
Ron

JoAnn Paules said:
I pulled the specs and it says 4" x 6".

My husband bought a refill kit once. What a waste of money! Plus even tho
he's really careful, he still had an inky mess and everything printed in
murky colors.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]




Microsoft said:
Wrong JoAnn.

I have the previous one, the Canon Pixma IP4000, and it does full bleed
A4 sheets!
The Canon Pixma IP4000/5000 series is a bargain.

But I agree, pay the modest price for original ink cartridges, its the
best.

Terje


"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" <[email protected]> skrev i melding
Actually I would be surprised if an $80 printer would do it. And don't
use those refill fits. They aren't worth the money you're saving.

I just looked that printer up. It will only do a 4" x 6" borderless.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]




Is $80 too much for a full bleed printer which also has auto duplex?
That's what a Canon iP4200 costs. Plus, the individual ink cartridges
can be refilled for next to nothing which makes it a very economical
printer to use.
--
Ron

It's not just HP. You need to spend a bit more for the printer to get
that result.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]





David,

I found out I had the same problem, unfortunately. It is a printer
issue.
Not many printers "bleed out" they way you see in magazines. Always
the 1/16
of an inch white border. It is what keeps fantastic Publisher
results from
looking entirely professional. So frustrating. Are you listening
HP?
:

Could be your printer's margin limitations
Tutorial: Finding your Maximum Print Area
http://ed.mvps.org/Static.aspx?=Publisher/horidiag

--
Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
http://office.microsoft.com/
http://msauer.mvps.org/
news://msnews.microsoft.com
http://officebeta.iponet.net/en-us/publisher/FX100649111033.aspx

in message
Either in Word or Publisher, when applying an entire page color
background, I
am always left with a white border on the page. How can I get the
entire page
backgrond to print?
 
J

JoAnn Paules [MVP]

I might change my mind then too but since I like the brand I have now, I
can't see hooking up another one as long as this one works.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
 

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