BCC still not working after n years where n is a large number

[nandor]

Version: 2008
Operating System: Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard)
Processor: Intel
Email Client: Exchange

This has been reported any number of times, but Micro$oft ignores it, either from seeing it in these forums or from the bug reports I've filed. Does anyone have a work around?

I'm on an Exchange server, and if I just type in username in the TO: field, an email will be sent to (e-mail address removed). It's fast and convenient, since I don't have to keep typing "@mycompany.com" every time I send a bloody email.

Same with when I type something into the CC: field. All I have to do is type in username and it will send it to (e-mail address removed).

But if I type username into the BCC: field, nothing happens. It doesn't send, and it doesn't give me an error message. In addition, the I never get a message from the (e-mail address removed) that there is no such user, so I'm not even aware that the email isn't sent. It's quite annoying, as half the time I forget to include "@mycompany.com" and the person I'm trying to BCC doesn't get the message.

So, since M$ is ignoring the issue, does anyone know of some way to change the program so that BCC addressing will work properly?

Thanks.

 

[Adam Bailey]

I'm on an Exchange server, and if I just type in username in the TO:
field, an email will be sent to (e-mail address removed). It's fast and
convenient, since I don't have to keep typing "@mycompany.com" every time
I send a bloody email.

This is not recommended procedure. Do you have a GAL? Recently Used
Addresses?

 

[nandor]

I'm not really interested in "recommended procedure." this is one of Micro$oft's problems to begin with: they think the "recommended procedure" is the one everyone should use. Recently Used Addresses and Global Adress lists are slow and cumbersome, and I don't want to have to scroll through the names.

The point is that just typing in the username without the full address, in the business's domain, works for TO: and CC:, but not for BCC:. It's a simple bug and should EASILY be addressed, since it works properly for CC: and TO:.

But in the meantime, solutions and workarounds (without having to deal with annoying lists that pop up while I'm typing, which are distracting and slow) would be welcome.

 

[Adam Bailey]

I'm not really interested in "recommended procedure." this is one of
Micro$oft's problems to begin with: they think the "recommended procedure"
is the one everyone should use.

This is hardly a Microsoft issue. No one uses local addressing anymore.

Recently Used Addresses and Global Adress lists are slow and cumbersome,
and I don't want to have to scroll through the names.

There's no scrolling involved. Are you saying it's easier to type 'abailey'
than it is to start typing 'bai' and then Enter/Tab when my name pops up?

 

[nandor]

I don't know. How many other people with "bai" are in the company? If your company, like mine, has 30 people's whose names are "rob," it's pretty useless. And scrolling and tabbing are the same thing - if I have to hit tab 15 times to get to the correct name, how is this saving time rather than just writing the program correctly so that local names can be used in all three addressing systems and not just two of the three?

 

[Adam Bailey]

I don't know. How many other people with "bai" are in the company? If your
company, like mine, has 30 people's whose names are "rob," it's pretty
useless.

But do you write to all 30 of them, or just a subset? The Most Recently Used
addresses list tracks the people you correspond with. It's an invaluable
tool for inter-company mail. I couldn't live without it.

 

[Diane Ross]

I don't know. How many other people with "bai" are in the company? If your
company, like mine, has 30 people's whose names are "rob," it's pretty
useless.

Use nicknames then. They do not show up in a message.

For example.

Fatrob
Oldrob
Youngrob
Robinaccounting

 

[nandor]

Hmm. I must not be being clear.

1) I REGULARLY email over 200 different people a week, so using nicknames is not more efficient that just typing out the domain after the username.

2) Exchange DOES have BCC support - it just does not handle using only local usernames.

3) This SHOULD be a very simple fix from M$, and in fact used to work (in 2000). When a local name is used in the TO: or CC: field, Entourage simply adds the company's domain name to the address and sends it. When used in the BCC: field, Entourage IGNORES it. It's the classic case of a bug - it's obvious because Entourage isn't even attempting to send the message to the BCC'd local name, else one would receive a "no such user" email message from the server.

Not that I'm not grateful for the suggestions, but workarounds like GALs and setting up 400 nicknames won't help me in my particular situation. I was hoping someone knew of a hidden switch somewhere that I could flip (like Eudora has).

Thanks to those who posted - there might not be a solution.

Well, there actually is a solution: next year, when Mac comes out with OS X 10.6 and Mail & iCal will actually work with Exchange, I can finally dump Entourage....

 

[Ed Kimball]

Hmm. I must not be being clear.

1) I REGULARLY email over 200 different people a week, so using nicknames is
not more efficient that just typing out the domain after the username.

I disagree. If you add nicknames, e.g., initials (such as "EMK" for me), to
each of these frequent addressees. you can get the address much more
efficiently. Give it a try.

2) Exchange DOES have BCC support - it just does not handle using only local
usernames.

No comment; don't use Exchange.

3) This SHOULD be a very simple fix from M$, and in fact used to work (in
2000). When a local name is used in the TO: or CC: field, Entourage simply
adds the company's domain name to the address and sends it. When used in the
BCC: field, Entourage IGNORES it. It's the classic case of a bug - it's
obvious because Entourage isn't even attempting to send the message to the
BCC'd local name, else one would receive a "no such user" email message from
the server.

Not that I'm not grateful for the suggestions, but workarounds like GALs and
setting up 400 nicknames won't help me in my particular situation. I was
hoping someone knew of a hidden switch somewhere that I could flip (like
Eudora has).

Thanks to those who posted - there might not be a solution.

Again, try nicknames. I find them very useful for my most frequent
addressees.

Well, there actually is a solution: next year, when Mac comes out with OS X
10.6 and Mail & iCal will actually work with Exchange, I can finally dump
Entourage....

Good luck.

 

[Keysaw]

But in the meantime, solutions and workarounds (without having to deal with annoying lists that pop up while I'm typing, which are distracting and slow) would be welcome.

Does it work to type the names in the CC: area, and then drag them
down to the BCC: area?

Also, in your System Network Preferences, make sure your company
address is listed in the Search Domains.

Keith