birthdays not showing in calendar after importing contacts from ex

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Dindo Fernando

I've recently migrated my contacts from Palm Desktop to Outlook 2003 by first
exporting to a CSV file and then importing into Outlook. I noticed that not
all of my contacts with entries in the birthday field showed up in my Outlook
calendar.

My first thought was the formatting (missing year) was the problem, so I bit
the bullet and put in the year for those contacts without year entries for
their birthdays in the CSV files and re-imported. However this did not fix
the problem.

Anyone have any ideas on what I did wrong or how I can fix this problem?
 
R

Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]

One of the many well documented limitations of importing. All connections
are lost.
Why was it necessary for you to use an intermediary format to transfer these
Contacts? Could you not synchronize them?
 
D

dindo fernando

Sorry for not being clear. I had to export my contacts from Palm Desktop to
a CSV file, and then import the CSV file into Outlook 2003.

Can you clarify what you mean by 'connections'? Is there a 'connection'
established between the calendar and address book to reflect the birthday
entries in the address book as a calendar entry?

Russ Valentine said:
One of the many well documented limitations of importing. All connections
are lost.
Why was it necessary for you to use an intermediary format to transfer
these Contacts? Could you not synchronize them?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Dindo Fernando said:
I've recently migrated my contacts from Palm Desktop to Outlook 2003 by
first
exporting to a CSV file and then importing into Outlook. I noticed that
not
all of my contacts with entries in the birthday field showed up in my
Outlook
calendar.

My first thought was the formatting (missing year) was the problem, so I
bit
the bullet and put in the year for those contacts without year entries
for
their birthdays in the CSV files and re-imported. However this did not
fix
the problem.

Anyone have any ideas on what I did wrong or how I can fix this problem?
 
R

Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]

Outlook maintains many connections among Outlook Items. That's how it
derives views like Activities, Journal, and the automatic display of
Contact's birthdays and anniversaries in the Calendar.
All connections are lost whenever you import Outlook data.
My question was why you had to import Outlook data. Palm is able to
synchronize Outlook data.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
dindo fernando said:
Sorry for not being clear. I had to export my contacts from Palm Desktop
to a CSV file, and then import the CSV file into Outlook 2003.

Can you clarify what you mean by 'connections'? Is there a 'connection'
established between the calendar and address book to reflect the birthday
entries in the address book as a calendar entry?

Russ Valentine said:
One of the many well documented limitations of importing. All connections
are lost.
Why was it necessary for you to use an intermediary format to transfer
these Contacts? Could you not synchronize them?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Dindo Fernando said:
I've recently migrated my contacts from Palm Desktop to Outlook 2003 by
first
exporting to a CSV file and then importing into Outlook. I noticed that
not
all of my contacts with entries in the birthday field showed up in my
Outlook
calendar.

My first thought was the formatting (missing year) was the problem, so I
bit
the bullet and put in the year for those contacts without year entries
for
their birthdays in the CSV files and re-imported. However this did not
fix
the problem.

Anyone have any ideas on what I did wrong or how I can fix this problem?
 
D

dindo fernando

To be honest, I did not know that I could synchronize my Palm device to
Outlook (I was using a Palm m505 by the way).

Anyway, since I have already done the import via CSV, is there a way for me
re-establish the 'connections' such that my contacts' birthdays and
anniversaries are shown in my Calendar? If none, can anyone suggest a
third-party software that can help me do this?


Russ Valentine said:
Outlook maintains many connections among Outlook Items. That's how it
derives views like Activities, Journal, and the automatic display of
Contact's birthdays and anniversaries in the Calendar.
All connections are lost whenever you import Outlook data.
My question was why you had to import Outlook data. Palm is able to
synchronize Outlook data.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
dindo fernando said:
Sorry for not being clear. I had to export my contacts from Palm Desktop
to a CSV file, and then import the CSV file into Outlook 2003.

Can you clarify what you mean by 'connections'? Is there a 'connection'
established between the calendar and address book to reflect the birthday
entries in the address book as a calendar entry?

Russ Valentine said:
One of the many well documented limitations of importing. All
connections are lost.
Why was it necessary for you to use an intermediary format to transfer
these Contacts? Could you not synchronize them?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
message I've recently migrated my contacts from Palm Desktop to Outlook 2003 by
first
exporting to a CSV file and then importing into Outlook. I noticed
that not
all of my contacts with entries in the birthday field showed up in my
Outlook
calendar.

My first thought was the formatting (missing year) was the problem, so
I bit
the bullet and put in the year for those contacts without year entries
for
their birthdays in the CSV files and re-imported. However this did not
fix
the problem.

Anyone have any ideas on what I did wrong or how I can fix this
problem?
 
R

Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]

I know of no way to do so automatically.
If you just open a Contact Record in question and save it, do the dates not
show up on the calendar then?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
dindo fernando said:
To be honest, I did not know that I could synchronize my Palm device to
Outlook (I was using a Palm m505 by the way).

Anyway, since I have already done the import via CSV, is there a way for
me re-establish the 'connections' such that my contacts' birthdays and
anniversaries are shown in my Calendar? If none, can anyone suggest a
third-party software that can help me do this?


Russ Valentine said:
Outlook maintains many connections among Outlook Items. That's how it
derives views like Activities, Journal, and the automatic display of
Contact's birthdays and anniversaries in the Calendar.
All connections are lost whenever you import Outlook data.
My question was why you had to import Outlook data. Palm is able to
synchronize Outlook data.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
dindo fernando said:
Sorry for not being clear. I had to export my contacts from Palm
Desktop to a CSV file, and then import the CSV file into Outlook 2003.

Can you clarify what you mean by 'connections'? Is there a 'connection'
established between the calendar and address book to reflect the
birthday entries in the address book as a calendar entry?

One of the many well documented limitations of importing. All
connections are lost.
Why was it necessary for you to use an intermediary format to transfer
these Contacts? Could you not synchronize them?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
message I've recently migrated my contacts from Palm Desktop to Outlook 2003
by first
exporting to a CSV file and then importing into Outlook. I noticed
that not
all of my contacts with entries in the birthday field showed up in my
Outlook
calendar.

My first thought was the formatting (missing year) was the problem, so
I bit
the bullet and put in the year for those contacts without year entries
for
their birthdays in the CSV files and re-imported. However this did
not fix
the problem.

Anyone have any ideas on what I did wrong or how I can fix this
problem?
 
D

dindo fernando

Yes, if I manually open a contact record, 'alter' the birthday field or
anything so that the system detects a change and save the record, that
particular record will have a calendar entry. However, I do not want to do
this for all of my 2000+ contacts! Is there a way or workaround that I can
employ? Can I copy the contacts into a PST and then copy back into my
mailbox contacts?

Russ Valentine said:
I know of no way to do so automatically.
If you just open a Contact Record in question and save it, do the dates
not show up on the calendar then?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
dindo fernando said:
To be honest, I did not know that I could synchronize my Palm device to
Outlook (I was using a Palm m505 by the way).

Anyway, since I have already done the import via CSV, is there a way for
me re-establish the 'connections' such that my contacts' birthdays and
anniversaries are shown in my Calendar? If none, can anyone suggest a
third-party software that can help me do this?


Russ Valentine said:
Outlook maintains many connections among Outlook Items. That's how it
derives views like Activities, Journal, and the automatic display of
Contact's birthdays and anniversaries in the Calendar.
All connections are lost whenever you import Outlook data.
My question was why you had to import Outlook data. Palm is able to
synchronize Outlook data.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Sorry for not being clear. I had to export my contacts from Palm
Desktop to a CSV file, and then import the CSV file into Outlook 2003.

Can you clarify what you mean by 'connections'? Is there a
'connection' established between the calendar and address book to
reflect the birthday entries in the address book as a calendar entry?

One of the many well documented limitations of importing. All
connections are lost.
Why was it necessary for you to use an intermediary format to transfer
these Contacts? Could you not synchronize them?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
message I've recently migrated my contacts from Palm Desktop to Outlook 2003
by first
exporting to a CSV file and then importing into Outlook. I noticed
that not
all of my contacts with entries in the birthday field showed up in my
Outlook
calendar.

My first thought was the formatting (missing year) was the problem,
so I bit
the bullet and put in the year for those contacts without year
entries for
their birthdays in the CSV files and re-imported. However this did
not fix
the problem.

Anyone have any ideas on what I did wrong or how I can fix this
problem?
 
R

Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]

I don't know of any way to re-establish connections automatically.
There might be a way to do so with code, so you could ask in a programming
group.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
dindo fernando said:
Yes, if I manually open a contact record, 'alter' the birthday field or
anything so that the system detects a change and save the record, that
particular record will have a calendar entry. However, I do not want to
do this for all of my 2000+ contacts! Is there a way or workaround that I
can employ? Can I copy the contacts into a PST and then copy back into my
mailbox contacts?

Russ Valentine said:
I know of no way to do so automatically.
If you just open a Contact Record in question and save it, do the dates
not show up on the calendar then?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
dindo fernando said:
To be honest, I did not know that I could synchronize my Palm device to
Outlook (I was using a Palm m505 by the way).

Anyway, since I have already done the import via CSV, is there a way for
me re-establish the 'connections' such that my contacts' birthdays and
anniversaries are shown in my Calendar? If none, can anyone suggest a
third-party software that can help me do this?


Outlook maintains many connections among Outlook Items. That's how it
derives views like Activities, Journal, and the automatic display of
Contact's birthdays and anniversaries in the Calendar.
All connections are lost whenever you import Outlook data.
My question was why you had to import Outlook data. Palm is able to
synchronize Outlook data.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Sorry for not being clear. I had to export my contacts from Palm
Desktop to a CSV file, and then import the CSV file into Outlook 2003.

Can you clarify what you mean by 'connections'? Is there a
'connection' established between the calendar and address book to
reflect the birthday entries in the address book as a calendar entry?

One of the many well documented limitations of importing. All
connections are lost.
Why was it necessary for you to use an intermediary format to
transfer these Contacts? Could you not synchronize them?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
message I've recently migrated my contacts from Palm Desktop to Outlook 2003
by first
exporting to a CSV file and then importing into Outlook. I noticed
that not
all of my contacts with entries in the birthday field showed up in
my Outlook
calendar.

My first thought was the formatting (missing year) was the problem,
so I bit
the bullet and put in the year for those contacts without year
entries for
their birthdays in the CSV files and re-imported. However this did
not fix
the problem.

Anyone have any ideas on what I did wrong or how I can fix this
problem?
 
D

dindo fernando

In my opinion, this is a 'bug' but would like to validate with you. If you
agree, would you know the process as to how I can report this bug and get it
fixed. If not, can you suggest a particular programming group I can refer
to?

Thanks.

Russ Valentine said:
I don't know of any way to re-establish connections automatically.
There might be a way to do so with code, so you could ask in a programming
group.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
dindo fernando said:
Yes, if I manually open a contact record, 'alter' the birthday field or
anything so that the system detects a change and save the record, that
particular record will have a calendar entry. However, I do not want to
do this for all of my 2000+ contacts! Is there a way or workaround that
I can employ? Can I copy the contacts into a PST and then copy back into
my mailbox contacts?

Russ Valentine said:
I know of no way to do so automatically.
If you just open a Contact Record in question and save it, do the dates
not show up on the calendar then?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
To be honest, I did not know that I could synchronize my Palm device to
Outlook (I was using a Palm m505 by the way).

Anyway, since I have already done the import via CSV, is there a way
for me re-establish the 'connections' such that my contacts' birthdays
and anniversaries are shown in my Calendar? If none, can anyone
suggest a third-party software that can help me do this?


Outlook maintains many connections among Outlook Items. That's how it
derives views like Activities, Journal, and the automatic display of
Contact's birthdays and anniversaries in the Calendar.
All connections are lost whenever you import Outlook data.
My question was why you had to import Outlook data. Palm is able to
synchronize Outlook data.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Sorry for not being clear. I had to export my contacts from Palm
Desktop to a CSV file, and then import the CSV file into Outlook
2003.

Can you clarify what you mean by 'connections'? Is there a
'connection' established between the calendar and address book to
reflect the birthday entries in the address book as a calendar entry?

One of the many well documented limitations of importing. All
connections are lost.
Why was it necessary for you to use an intermediary format to
transfer these Contacts? Could you not synchronize them?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
message I've recently migrated my contacts from Palm Desktop to Outlook
2003 by first
exporting to a CSV file and then importing into Outlook. I noticed
that not
all of my contacts with entries in the birthday field showed up in
my Outlook
calendar.

My first thought was the formatting (missing year) was the problem,
so I bit
the bullet and put in the year for those contacts without year
entries for
their birthdays in the CSV files and re-imported. However this did
not fix
the problem.

Anyone have any ideas on what I did wrong or how I can fix this
problem?
 
R

Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]

I know of no way and no need to report it. It's already well known and well
documented behavior and always has been in Outlook.
It's one of the reasons we always advise against importing whenever
possible.
Why you had to import is unclear to me.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
dindo fernando said:
In my opinion, this is a 'bug' but would like to validate with you. If
you agree, would you know the process as to how I can report this bug and
get it fixed. If not, can you suggest a particular programming group I
can refer to?

Thanks.

Russ Valentine said:
I don't know of any way to re-establish connections automatically.
There might be a way to do so with code, so you could ask in a
programming group.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
dindo fernando said:
Yes, if I manually open a contact record, 'alter' the birthday field or
anything so that the system detects a change and save the record, that
particular record will have a calendar entry. However, I do not want to
do this for all of my 2000+ contacts! Is there a way or workaround that
I can employ? Can I copy the contacts into a PST and then copy back
into my mailbox contacts?

I know of no way to do so automatically.
If you just open a Contact Record in question and save it, do the dates
not show up on the calendar then?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
To be honest, I did not know that I could synchronize my Palm device
to Outlook (I was using a Palm m505 by the way).

Anyway, since I have already done the import via CSV, is there a way
for me re-establish the 'connections' such that my contacts' birthdays
and anniversaries are shown in my Calendar? If none, can anyone
suggest a third-party software that can help me do this?


Outlook maintains many connections among Outlook Items. That's how it
derives views like Activities, Journal, and the automatic display of
Contact's birthdays and anniversaries in the Calendar.
All connections are lost whenever you import Outlook data.
My question was why you had to import Outlook data. Palm is able to
synchronize Outlook data.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Sorry for not being clear. I had to export my contacts from Palm
Desktop to a CSV file, and then import the CSV file into Outlook
2003.

Can you clarify what you mean by 'connections'? Is there a
'connection' established between the calendar and address book to
reflect the birthday entries in the address book as a calendar
entry?

One of the many well documented limitations of importing. All
connections are lost.
Why was it necessary for you to use an intermediary format to
transfer these Contacts? Could you not synchronize them?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
message I've recently migrated my contacts from Palm Desktop to Outlook
2003 by first
exporting to a CSV file and then importing into Outlook. I
noticed that not
all of my contacts with entries in the birthday field showed up in
my Outlook
calendar.

My first thought was the formatting (missing year) was the
problem, so I bit
the bullet and put in the year for those contacts without year
entries for
their birthdays in the CSV files and re-imported. However this
did not fix
the problem.

Anyone have any ideas on what I did wrong or how I can fix this
problem?
 
D

dindo fernando

Thank you for the reply. Can you please tell me where the advise against
importing is documented?

Does this mean that importing has now permanently destroyed all my
connections between my calendar and address book and there is no way to fix
it? May I suggest that we get over the issue of importing, I had explained
earlier that I had imported my data primarily because I did not know that I
can synchronize my Palm m505 with Outlook. Putting a bit of thought into
this scenario now, it is my understanding that the way to synchronize a Palm
device with Outlook is via ActiveSync. Whilst the new Palm devices has
support for ActiveSync, my old m505 does not support this. Am I missing
something here or may I safely conclude that my m505 may not be able to
synchronize with Outlook?

Anyway, perhaps another 'perspective' may help as the act of importing may
be muddling the real issue. Assuming that the act of importing did not
permanently destroy connections (which is my question above), will the act
of copying new contacts from other PSTs into my mailbox establish
connections for the new contacts that are copied (this is not importing, but
simply copying between PST and mailbox). If so, will the workaround of
copying my contacts in my Mailbox to an external PST and copying them back
solve my problem?

Russ Valentine said:
I know of no way and no need to report it. It's already well known and well
documented behavior and always has been in Outlook.
It's one of the reasons we always advise against importing whenever
possible.
Why you had to import is unclear to me.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
dindo fernando said:
In my opinion, this is a 'bug' but would like to validate with you. If
you agree, would you know the process as to how I can report this bug and
get it fixed. If not, can you suggest a particular programming group I
can refer to?

Thanks.

Russ Valentine said:
I don't know of any way to re-establish connections automatically.
There might be a way to do so with code, so you could ask in a
programming group.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Yes, if I manually open a contact record, 'alter' the birthday field or
anything so that the system detects a change and save the record, that
particular record will have a calendar entry. However, I do not want
to do this for all of my 2000+ contacts! Is there a way or workaround
that I can employ? Can I copy the contacts into a PST and then copy
back into my mailbox contacts?

I know of no way to do so automatically.
If you just open a Contact Record in question and save it, do the
dates not show up on the calendar then?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
To be honest, I did not know that I could synchronize my Palm device
to Outlook (I was using a Palm m505 by the way).

Anyway, since I have already done the import via CSV, is there a way
for me re-establish the 'connections' such that my contacts'
birthdays and anniversaries are shown in my Calendar? If none, can
anyone suggest a third-party software that can help me do this?


Outlook maintains many connections among Outlook Items. That's how
it derives views like Activities, Journal, and the automatic display
of Contact's birthdays and anniversaries in the Calendar.
All connections are lost whenever you import Outlook data.
My question was why you had to import Outlook data. Palm is able to
synchronize Outlook data.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Sorry for not being clear. I had to export my contacts from Palm
Desktop to a CSV file, and then import the CSV file into Outlook
2003.

Can you clarify what you mean by 'connections'? Is there a
'connection' established between the calendar and address book to
reflect the birthday entries in the address book as a calendar
entry?

One of the many well documented limitations of importing. All
connections are lost.
Why was it necessary for you to use an intermediary format to
transfer these Contacts? Could you not synchronize them?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
in message
I've recently migrated my contacts from Palm Desktop to Outlook
2003 by first
exporting to a CSV file and then importing into Outlook. I
noticed that not
all of my contacts with entries in the birthday field showed up
in my Outlook
calendar.

My first thought was the formatting (missing year) was the
problem, so I bit
the bullet and put in the year for those contacts without year
entries for
their birthdays in the CSV files and re-imported. However this
did not fix
the problem.

Anyone have any ideas on what I did wrong or how I can fix this
problem?
 
R

Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]

You will find countless posts in this group where we list all the
information that is lost by importing.

We would have no idea whether and how your Palm synchronizes with Outlook.
You'll need to ask Palm. ActivSync is for use with Pocket PC's.

The way to transfer data from your mailbox would be to copy it to a PST file
then open that PST file in the another installation. Just make sure you
don't export or import, or you'll lose all connections again.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
dindo fernando said:
Thank you for the reply. Can you please tell me where the advise against
importing is documented?

Does this mean that importing has now permanently destroyed all my
connections between my calendar and address book and there is no way to
fix it? May I suggest that we get over the issue of importing, I had
explained earlier that I had imported my data primarily because I did not
know that I can synchronize my Palm m505 with Outlook. Putting a bit of
thought into this scenario now, it is my understanding that the way to
synchronize a Palm device with Outlook is via ActiveSync. Whilst the new
Palm devices has support for ActiveSync, my old m505 does not support
this. Am I missing something here or may I safely conclude that my m505
may not be able to synchronize with Outlook?

Anyway, perhaps another 'perspective' may help as the act of importing may
be muddling the real issue. Assuming that the act of importing did not
permanently destroy connections (which is my question above), will the act
of copying new contacts from other PSTs into my mailbox establish
connections for the new contacts that are copied (this is not importing,
but simply copying between PST and mailbox). If so, will the workaround
of copying my contacts in my Mailbox to an external PST and copying them
back solve my problem?

Russ Valentine said:
I know of no way and no need to report it. It's already well known and
well documented behavior and always has been in Outlook.
It's one of the reasons we always advise against importing whenever
possible.
Why you had to import is unclear to me.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
dindo fernando said:
In my opinion, this is a 'bug' but would like to validate with you. If
you agree, would you know the process as to how I can report this bug
and get it fixed. If not, can you suggest a particular programming
group I can refer to?

Thanks.

I don't know of any way to re-establish connections automatically.
There might be a way to do so with code, so you could ask in a
programming group.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Yes, if I manually open a contact record, 'alter' the birthday field
or anything so that the system detects a change and save the record,
that particular record will have a calendar entry. However, I do not
want to do this for all of my 2000+ contacts! Is there a way or
workaround that I can employ? Can I copy the contacts into a PST and
then copy back into my mailbox contacts?

I know of no way to do so automatically.
If you just open a Contact Record in question and save it, do the
dates not show up on the calendar then?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
To be honest, I did not know that I could synchronize my Palm device
to Outlook (I was using a Palm m505 by the way).

Anyway, since I have already done the import via CSV, is there a way
for me re-establish the 'connections' such that my contacts'
birthdays and anniversaries are shown in my Calendar? If none, can
anyone suggest a third-party software that can help me do this?


Outlook maintains many connections among Outlook Items. That's how
it derives views like Activities, Journal, and the automatic
display of Contact's birthdays and anniversaries in the Calendar.
All connections are lost whenever you import Outlook data.
My question was why you had to import Outlook data. Palm is able to
synchronize Outlook data.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Sorry for not being clear. I had to export my contacts from Palm
Desktop to a CSV file, and then import the CSV file into Outlook
2003.

Can you clarify what you mean by 'connections'? Is there a
'connection' established between the calendar and address book to
reflect the birthday entries in the address book as a calendar
entry?

message One of the many well documented limitations of importing. All
connections are lost.
Why was it necessary for you to use an intermediary format to
transfer these Contacts? Could you not synchronize them?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
in message
I've recently migrated my contacts from Palm Desktop to Outlook
2003 by first
exporting to a CSV file and then importing into Outlook. I
noticed that not
all of my contacts with entries in the birthday field showed up
in my Outlook
calendar.

My first thought was the formatting (missing year) was the
problem, so I bit
the bullet and put in the year for those contacts without year
entries for
their birthdays in the CSV files and re-imported. However this
did not fix
the problem.

Anyone have any ideas on what I did wrong or how I can fix this
problem?
 
D

dindo fernando

Again to clarify, I have lost no information in my 'act of importing'. All
the fields are intact, including the birthday fields. My problem is that
the birthdays do not show up in the calendar, as should be the case
(http://office.microsoft.com/training/training.aspx?AssetID=RC060823511033)

As for your comment on Palm synchronizing with Outlook, it was you who
actually implied that it could be done. The only way I knew of transferring
my Palm contacts to my Oultook contacts was via importing via CSV (I believe
that is why this function is there in the first place). Can you point me to
the posts in the group which tell me how importing from CSV destroys the
connection between the Outlook contacts and calendar?

I still believe that this is a bug that should be fixed, unless you show me
documentation from Microsoft that shows that this is working as designed.

Finally, I need more clarity on your suggestion: "copy it to a PST file
then open that PST file in the another installation".


Russ Valentine said:
You will find countless posts in this group where we list all the
information that is lost by importing.

We would have no idea whether and how your Palm synchronizes with Outlook.
You'll need to ask Palm. ActivSync is for use with Pocket PC's.

The way to transfer data from your mailbox would be to copy it to a PST
file then open that PST file in the another installation. Just make sure
you don't export or import, or you'll lose all connections again.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
dindo fernando said:
Thank you for the reply. Can you please tell me where the advise against
importing is documented?

Does this mean that importing has now permanently destroyed all my
connections between my calendar and address book and there is no way to
fix it? May I suggest that we get over the issue of importing, I had
explained earlier that I had imported my data primarily because I did not
know that I can synchronize my Palm m505 with Outlook. Putting a bit of
thought into this scenario now, it is my understanding that the way to
synchronize a Palm device with Outlook is via ActiveSync. Whilst the new
Palm devices has support for ActiveSync, my old m505 does not support
this. Am I missing something here or may I safely conclude that my m505
may not be able to synchronize with Outlook?

Anyway, perhaps another 'perspective' may help as the act of importing
may be muddling the real issue. Assuming that the act of importing did
not permanently destroy connections (which is my question above), will
the act of copying new contacts from other PSTs into my mailbox establish
connections for the new contacts that are copied (this is not importing,
but simply copying between PST and mailbox). If so, will the workaround
of copying my contacts in my Mailbox to an external PST and copying them
back solve my problem?

Russ Valentine said:
I know of no way and no need to report it. It's already well known and
well documented behavior and always has been in Outlook.
It's one of the reasons we always advise against importing whenever
possible.
Why you had to import is unclear to me.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
In my opinion, this is a 'bug' but would like to validate with you. If
you agree, would you know the process as to how I can report this bug
and get it fixed. If not, can you suggest a particular programming
group I can refer to?

Thanks.

I don't know of any way to re-establish connections automatically.
There might be a way to do so with code, so you could ask in a
programming group.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Yes, if I manually open a contact record, 'alter' the birthday field
or anything so that the system detects a change and save the record,
that particular record will have a calendar entry. However, I do not
want to do this for all of my 2000+ contacts! Is there a way or
workaround that I can employ? Can I copy the contacts into a PST and
then copy back into my mailbox contacts?

I know of no way to do so automatically.
If you just open a Contact Record in question and save it, do the
dates not show up on the calendar then?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
To be honest, I did not know that I could synchronize my Palm
device to Outlook (I was using a Palm m505 by the way).

Anyway, since I have already done the import via CSV, is there a
way for me re-establish the 'connections' such that my contacts'
birthdays and anniversaries are shown in my Calendar? If none, can
anyone suggest a third-party software that can help me do this?


Outlook maintains many connections among Outlook Items. That's how
it derives views like Activities, Journal, and the automatic
display of Contact's birthdays and anniversaries in the Calendar.
All connections are lost whenever you import Outlook data.
My question was why you had to import Outlook data. Palm is able
to synchronize Outlook data.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Sorry for not being clear. I had to export my contacts from Palm
Desktop to a CSV file, and then import the CSV file into Outlook
2003.

Can you clarify what you mean by 'connections'? Is there a
'connection' established between the calendar and address book to
reflect the birthday entries in the address book as a calendar
entry?

message One of the many well documented limitations of importing. All
connections are lost.
Why was it necessary for you to use an intermediary format to
transfer these Contacts? Could you not synchronize them?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
in message
I've recently migrated my contacts from Palm Desktop to Outlook
2003 by first
exporting to a CSV file and then importing into Outlook. I
noticed that not
all of my contacts with entries in the birthday field showed up
in my Outlook
calendar.

My first thought was the formatting (missing year) was the
problem, so I bit
the bullet and put in the year for those contacts without year
entries for
their birthdays in the CSV files and re-imported. However this
did not fix
the problem.

Anyone have any ideas on what I did wrong or how I can fix this
problem?
 
R

Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]

Not really. I haven't the time to search the groups for you.
Microsoft does not document its deficiciencies particularly well. That's why
we do.
The following information is known to be lost by importing and has been well
documented here:
1. Custom Forms
2. Custom Views
3. Connections between contacts and activities
4. Received dates on mail
5. Birthdays and anniversaries in calendar
6. Journal connections
7. Distribution Lists
Simply copying and opening a PST file will preserve all of these.

You need instructions on how to copy a PST file and open it?
Close Outlook. Copy the PST file with Windows Explorer.
Open said file in Outlook: File > Open > Outlook Data File

Information on synchronization with Palm is only available from Palm. My
Palm synchronizes flawlessly with Outlook and always has.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
dindo fernando said:
Again to clarify, I have lost no information in my 'act of importing'.
All the fields are intact, including the birthday fields. My problem is
that the birthdays do not show up in the calendar, as should be the case
(http://office.microsoft.com/training/training.aspx?AssetID=RC060823511033)

As for your comment on Palm synchronizing with Outlook, it was you who
actually implied that it could be done. The only way I knew of
transferring my Palm contacts to my Oultook contacts was via importing via
CSV (I believe that is why this function is there in the first place).
Can you point me to the posts in the group which tell me how importing
from CSV destroys the connection between the Outlook contacts and
calendar?

I still believe that this is a bug that should be fixed, unless you show
me documentation from Microsoft that shows that this is working as
designed.

Finally, I need more clarity on your suggestion: "copy it to a PST file
then open that PST file in the another installation".


Russ Valentine said:
You will find countless posts in this group where we list all the
information that is lost by importing.

We would have no idea whether and how your Palm synchronizes with
Outlook. You'll need to ask Palm. ActivSync is for use with Pocket PC's.

The way to transfer data from your mailbox would be to copy it to a PST
file then open that PST file in the another installation. Just make sure
you don't export or import, or you'll lose all connections again.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
dindo fernando said:
Thank you for the reply. Can you please tell me where the advise
against importing is documented?

Does this mean that importing has now permanently destroyed all my
connections between my calendar and address book and there is no way to
fix it? May I suggest that we get over the issue of importing, I had
explained earlier that I had imported my data primarily because I did
not know that I can synchronize my Palm m505 with Outlook. Putting a
bit of thought into this scenario now, it is my understanding that the
way to synchronize a Palm device with Outlook is via ActiveSync. Whilst
the new Palm devices has support for ActiveSync, my old m505 does not
support this. Am I missing something here or may I safely conclude that
my m505 may not be able to synchronize with Outlook?

Anyway, perhaps another 'perspective' may help as the act of importing
may be muddling the real issue. Assuming that the act of importing did
not permanently destroy connections (which is my question above), will
the act of copying new contacts from other PSTs into my mailbox
establish connections for the new contacts that are copied (this is not
importing, but simply copying between PST and mailbox). If so, will the
workaround of copying my contacts in my Mailbox to an external PST and
copying them back solve my problem?

I know of no way and no need to report it. It's already well known and
well documented behavior and always has been in Outlook.
It's one of the reasons we always advise against importing whenever
possible.
Why you had to import is unclear to me.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
In my opinion, this is a 'bug' but would like to validate with you.
If you agree, would you know the process as to how I can report this
bug and get it fixed. If not, can you suggest a particular
programming group I can refer to?

Thanks.

I don't know of any way to re-establish connections automatically.
There might be a way to do so with code, so you could ask in a
programming group.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Yes, if I manually open a contact record, 'alter' the birthday field
or anything so that the system detects a change and save the record,
that particular record will have a calendar entry. However, I do
not want to do this for all of my 2000+ contacts! Is there a way or
workaround that I can employ? Can I copy the contacts into a PST
and then copy back into my mailbox contacts?

I know of no way to do so automatically.
If you just open a Contact Record in question and save it, do the
dates not show up on the calendar then?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
To be honest, I did not know that I could synchronize my Palm
device to Outlook (I was using a Palm m505 by the way).

Anyway, since I have already done the import via CSV, is there a
way for me re-establish the 'connections' such that my contacts'
birthdays and anniversaries are shown in my Calendar? If none,
can anyone suggest a third-party software that can help me do
this?


message Outlook maintains many connections among Outlook Items. That's
how it derives views like Activities, Journal, and the automatic
display of Contact's birthdays and anniversaries in the Calendar.
All connections are lost whenever you import Outlook data.
My question was why you had to import Outlook data. Palm is able
to synchronize Outlook data.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Sorry for not being clear. I had to export my contacts from
Palm Desktop to a CSV file, and then import the CSV file into
Outlook 2003.

Can you clarify what you mean by 'connections'? Is there a
'connection' established between the calendar and address book
to reflect the birthday entries in the address book as a
calendar entry?

message One of the many well documented limitations of importing. All
connections are lost.
Why was it necessary for you to use an intermediary format to
transfer these Contacts? Could you not synchronize them?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Dindo Fernando" <[email protected]>
wrote in message
I've recently migrated my contacts from Palm Desktop to
Outlook 2003 by first
exporting to a CSV file and then importing into Outlook. I
noticed that not
all of my contacts with entries in the birthday field showed
up in my Outlook
calendar.

My first thought was the formatting (missing year) was the
problem, so I bit
the bullet and put in the year for those contacts without year
entries for
their birthdays in the CSV files and re-imported. However
this did not fix
the problem.

Anyone have any ideas on what I did wrong or how I can fix
this problem?
 
D

dindo fernando

Perhaps you can give a bit more clarity: my contacts are in my Mailbox, not
in a PST. Do you suggest that I move all my contacts in my Mailbox to a
PST, follow your instructions, and then move back to my mailbox? Will that
fix my problem?

Russ Valentine said:
Not really. I haven't the time to search the groups for you.
Microsoft does not document its deficiciencies particularly well. That's
why we do.
The following information is known to be lost by importing and has been
well documented here:
1. Custom Forms
2. Custom Views
3. Connections between contacts and activities
4. Received dates on mail
5. Birthdays and anniversaries in calendar
6. Journal connections
7. Distribution Lists
Simply copying and opening a PST file will preserve all of these.

You need instructions on how to copy a PST file and open it?
Close Outlook. Copy the PST file with Windows Explorer.
Open said file in Outlook: File > Open > Outlook Data File

Information on synchronization with Palm is only available from Palm. My
Palm synchronizes flawlessly with Outlook and always has.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
dindo fernando said:
Again to clarify, I have lost no information in my 'act of importing'.
All the fields are intact, including the birthday fields. My problem is
that the birthdays do not show up in the calendar, as should be the case
(http://office.microsoft.com/training/training.aspx?AssetID=RC060823511033)

As for your comment on Palm synchronizing with Outlook, it was you who
actually implied that it could be done. The only way I knew of
transferring my Palm contacts to my Oultook contacts was via importing
via CSV (I believe that is why this function is there in the first
place). Can you point me to the posts in the group which tell me how
importing from CSV destroys the connection between the Outlook contacts
and calendar?

I still believe that this is a bug that should be fixed, unless you show
me documentation from Microsoft that shows that this is working as
designed.

Finally, I need more clarity on your suggestion: "copy it to a PST file
then open that PST file in the another installation".


Russ Valentine said:
You will find countless posts in this group where we list all the
information that is lost by importing.

We would have no idea whether and how your Palm synchronizes with
Outlook. You'll need to ask Palm. ActivSync is for use with Pocket PC's.

The way to transfer data from your mailbox would be to copy it to a PST
file then open that PST file in the another installation. Just make sure
you don't export or import, or you'll lose all connections again.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Thank you for the reply. Can you please tell me where the advise
against importing is documented?

Does this mean that importing has now permanently destroyed all my
connections between my calendar and address book and there is no way to
fix it? May I suggest that we get over the issue of importing, I had
explained earlier that I had imported my data primarily because I did
not know that I can synchronize my Palm m505 with Outlook. Putting a
bit of thought into this scenario now, it is my understanding that the
way to synchronize a Palm device with Outlook is via ActiveSync.
Whilst the new Palm devices has support for ActiveSync, my old m505
does not support this. Am I missing something here or may I safely
conclude that my m505 may not be able to synchronize with Outlook?

Anyway, perhaps another 'perspective' may help as the act of importing
may be muddling the real issue. Assuming that the act of importing did
not permanently destroy connections (which is my question above), will
the act of copying new contacts from other PSTs into my mailbox
establish connections for the new contacts that are copied (this is not
importing, but simply copying between PST and mailbox). If so, will
the workaround of copying my contacts in my Mailbox to an external PST
and copying them back solve my problem?

I know of no way and no need to report it. It's already well known and
well documented behavior and always has been in Outlook.
It's one of the reasons we always advise against importing whenever
possible.
Why you had to import is unclear to me.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
In my opinion, this is a 'bug' but would like to validate with you.
If you agree, would you know the process as to how I can report this
bug and get it fixed. If not, can you suggest a particular
programming group I can refer to?

Thanks.

I don't know of any way to re-establish connections automatically.
There might be a way to do so with code, so you could ask in a
programming group.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Yes, if I manually open a contact record, 'alter' the birthday
field or anything so that the system detects a change and save the
record, that particular record will have a calendar entry.
However, I do not want to do this for all of my 2000+ contacts! Is
there a way or workaround that I can employ? Can I copy the
contacts into a PST and then copy back into my mailbox contacts?

I know of no way to do so automatically.
If you just open a Contact Record in question and save it, do the
dates not show up on the calendar then?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
To be honest, I did not know that I could synchronize my Palm
device to Outlook (I was using a Palm m505 by the way).

Anyway, since I have already done the import via CSV, is there a
way for me re-establish the 'connections' such that my contacts'
birthdays and anniversaries are shown in my Calendar? If none,
can anyone suggest a third-party software that can help me do
this?


message Outlook maintains many connections among Outlook Items. That's
how it derives views like Activities, Journal, and the automatic
display of Contact's birthdays and anniversaries in the
Calendar.
All connections are lost whenever you import Outlook data.
My question was why you had to import Outlook data. Palm is able
to synchronize Outlook data.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Sorry for not being clear. I had to export my contacts from
Palm Desktop to a CSV file, and then import the CSV file into
Outlook 2003.

Can you clarify what you mean by 'connections'? Is there a
'connection' established between the calendar and address book
to reflect the birthday entries in the address book as a
calendar entry?

message One of the many well documented limitations of importing. All
connections are lost.
Why was it necessary for you to use an intermediary format to
transfer these Contacts? Could you not synchronize them?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Dindo Fernando" <[email protected]>
wrote in message
I've recently migrated my contacts from Palm Desktop to
Outlook 2003 by first
exporting to a CSV file and then importing into Outlook. I
noticed that not
all of my contacts with entries in the birthday field showed
up in my Outlook
calendar.

My first thought was the formatting (missing year) was the
problem, so I bit
the bullet and put in the year for those contacts without
year entries for
their birthdays in the CSV files and re-imported. However
this did not fix
the problem.

Anyone have any ideas on what I did wrong or how I can fix
this problem?
 
R

Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]

No it won't fix your problem.
Your problem arose because you had to import your data. Moving it back an
forth from a mailbox to a PST won't solve anything.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
dindo fernando said:
Perhaps you can give a bit more clarity: my contacts are in my Mailbox,
not in a PST. Do you suggest that I move all my contacts in my Mailbox to
a PST, follow your instructions, and then move back to my mailbox? Will
that fix my problem?

Russ Valentine said:
Not really. I haven't the time to search the groups for you.
Microsoft does not document its deficiciencies particularly well. That's
why we do.
The following information is known to be lost by importing and has been
well documented here:
1. Custom Forms
2. Custom Views
3. Connections between contacts and activities
4. Received dates on mail
5. Birthdays and anniversaries in calendar
6. Journal connections
7. Distribution Lists
Simply copying and opening a PST file will preserve all of these.

You need instructions on how to copy a PST file and open it?
Close Outlook. Copy the PST file with Windows Explorer.
Open said file in Outlook: File > Open > Outlook Data File

Information on synchronization with Palm is only available from Palm. My
Palm synchronizes flawlessly with Outlook and always has.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
dindo fernando said:
Again to clarify, I have lost no information in my 'act of importing'.
All the fields are intact, including the birthday fields. My problem is
that the birthdays do not show up in the calendar, as should be the case
(http://office.microsoft.com/training/training.aspx?AssetID=RC060823511033)

As for your comment on Palm synchronizing with Outlook, it was you who
actually implied that it could be done. The only way I knew of
transferring my Palm contacts to my Oultook contacts was via importing
via CSV (I believe that is why this function is there in the first
place). Can you point me to the posts in the group which tell me how
importing from CSV destroys the connection between the Outlook contacts
and calendar?

I still believe that this is a bug that should be fixed, unless you show
me documentation from Microsoft that shows that this is working as
designed.

Finally, I need more clarity on your suggestion: "copy it to a PST file
then open that PST file in the another installation".


You will find countless posts in this group where we list all the
information that is lost by importing.

We would have no idea whether and how your Palm synchronizes with
Outlook. You'll need to ask Palm. ActivSync is for use with Pocket
PC's.

The way to transfer data from your mailbox would be to copy it to a PST
file then open that PST file in the another installation. Just make
sure you don't export or import, or you'll lose all connections again.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Thank you for the reply. Can you please tell me where the advise
against importing is documented?

Does this mean that importing has now permanently destroyed all my
connections between my calendar and address book and there is no way
to fix it? May I suggest that we get over the issue of importing, I
had explained earlier that I had imported my data primarily because I
did not know that I can synchronize my Palm m505 with Outlook.
Putting a bit of thought into this scenario now, it is my
understanding that the way to synchronize a Palm device with Outlook
is via ActiveSync. Whilst the new Palm devices has support for
ActiveSync, my old m505 does not support this. Am I missing something
here or may I safely conclude that my m505 may not be able to
synchronize with Outlook?

Anyway, perhaps another 'perspective' may help as the act of importing
may be muddling the real issue. Assuming that the act of importing
did not permanently destroy connections (which is my question above),
will the act of copying new contacts from other PSTs into my mailbox
establish connections for the new contacts that are copied (this is
not importing, but simply copying between PST and mailbox). If so,
will the workaround of copying my contacts in my Mailbox to an
external PST and copying them back solve my problem?

I know of no way and no need to report it. It's already well known and
well documented behavior and always has been in Outlook.
It's one of the reasons we always advise against importing whenever
possible.
Why you had to import is unclear to me.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
In my opinion, this is a 'bug' but would like to validate with you.
If you agree, would you know the process as to how I can report this
bug and get it fixed. If not, can you suggest a particular
programming group I can refer to?

Thanks.

I don't know of any way to re-establish connections automatically.
There might be a way to do so with code, so you could ask in a
programming group.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Yes, if I manually open a contact record, 'alter' the birthday
field or anything so that the system detects a change and save the
record, that particular record will have a calendar entry.
However, I do not want to do this for all of my 2000+ contacts!
Is there a way or workaround that I can employ? Can I copy the
contacts into a PST and then copy back into my mailbox contacts?

message I know of no way to do so automatically.
If you just open a Contact Record in question and save it, do the
dates not show up on the calendar then?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
To be honest, I did not know that I could synchronize my Palm
device to Outlook (I was using a Palm m505 by the way).

Anyway, since I have already done the import via CSV, is there a
way for me re-establish the 'connections' such that my contacts'
birthdays and anniversaries are shown in my Calendar? If none,
can anyone suggest a third-party software that can help me do
this?


message Outlook maintains many connections among Outlook Items. That's
how it derives views like Activities, Journal, and the
automatic display of Contact's birthdays and anniversaries in
the Calendar.
All connections are lost whenever you import Outlook data.
My question was why you had to import Outlook data. Palm is
able to synchronize Outlook data.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Sorry for not being clear. I had to export my contacts from
Palm Desktop to a CSV file, and then import the CSV file into
Outlook 2003.

Can you clarify what you mean by 'connections'? Is there a
'connection' established between the calendar and address book
to reflect the birthday entries in the address book as a
calendar entry?

message One of the many well documented limitations of importing. All
connections are lost.
Why was it necessary for you to use an intermediary format to
transfer these Contacts? Could you not synchronize them?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Dindo Fernando" <[email protected]>
wrote in message
I've recently migrated my contacts from Palm Desktop to
Outlook 2003 by first
exporting to a CSV file and then importing into Outlook. I
noticed that not
all of my contacts with entries in the birthday field showed
up in my Outlook
calendar.

My first thought was the formatting (missing year) was the
problem, so I bit
the bullet and put in the year for those contacts without
year entries for
their birthdays in the CSV files and re-imported. However
this did not fix
the problem.

Anyone have any ideas on what I did wrong or how I can fix
this problem?
 

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