book label?

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Peter T. Daniels

Need "This Book Belongs To" book label template.

There's no standard design for bookplates. Books on typography often
use bookplates to show the imagination of designers!
 
P

Peter T. Daniels

I don't think that will help, because bookplates don't change from
book to book.
 
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Graham Mayor

That would rather depend on whether the books all belong to the same person,
or whether the labels are for multiple copies of a book for a variety of
people (members of a school class?)

The question said that the labels were for "This Book Belongs To" and not
"This Book Belongs To ducksrusmrducks"

Either way labels - merged or otherwise - will work.
--
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Graham Mayor - Word MVP


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Greg Maxey

There's no standard design for bookplates. Books on typography often
use bookplates to show the imagination of designers!

Mr. Daniels,

Who said anything about bookplates or books on typograhpy? The OP
asked for a label template that happened to have the text "This Book
Belongs To"

Again, if you don't know the answer (you rarely ever do) then it is OK
to leave the question for those who do. In this case Mr. Graham
Mayor.
 
S

Suzanne S. Barnhill

I don't think it's unreasonable to interpret a label that says "This Book
Belongs To" as being a bookplate. Yes, it's possible that the OP meant to
put the label on the outside of the book, but the inside is what I also
assumed, and that would be a bookplate. There is in fact a bookplate
template at
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/templates/TC010220071033.aspx?CategoryID=CT101467571033.
There are also bookplates for schoolbooks at
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/templates/TC103754931033.aspx?CategoryID=CT101467571033;
I'm guessing that these are intended for use in a single teacher's classroom
library.

There's one that actually says "THIS BOOK BELONGS TO" (with a flower design)
at
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/templates/TC300026781033.aspx?CategoryID=CT101467571033;
the same design in B&W is at
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/templates/TC300026791033.aspx?CategoryID=CT101467571033

I found these by googling for "bookplate template," which also turns up many
more such, including one from Avery. A Google Images search is even more
productive.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

There's no standard design for bookplates. Books on typography often
use bookplates to show the imagination of designers!

Mr. Daniels,

Who said anything about bookplates or books on typograhpy? The OP
asked for a label template that happened to have the text "This Book
Belongs To"

Again, if you don't know the answer (you rarely ever do) then it is OK
to leave the question for those who do. In this case Mr. Graham
Mayor.
 
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Greg Maxey

Ms. Barnhill,

Who said anyting was unreasonable? Call it whatever you like As is often
the case Mr. Daniels was wrong. The OP posted looking for a template and
not Mr. Daniels' erroneous statement that one doesn't exist or for what
books on typograhpy may have to say about them. He didn't know the answer.
Since he didn't and you did, the perhhaps he should have left the question
for you.
 
P

Peter T. Daniels

Subcommander mini-max is making up lies and fantasies about me again.

I never said such a template doesn't exist.

I implied that there would be no point in such a template, because
bookplates are one-off things.

I'm not responsible for the fact that subcommander mini-max doesn't
know what a bookplate is or is for (and that ducksrusmrducks may not
know the usual name for what he's looking for, but it was fully
identifiable from his description "This Book Belongs To book label".
Moreover, since in my response I supplied the usual name for what he
was looking for, if he still wanted such a template he would be able
to search for it and, as Suzanne found, find some.)

The world would be a much better place if subcommander mini-max would
simply never again look at any posting from me (and would stop sending
me emails).
 
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Suzanne S. Barnhill

In this case what you're missing is that what the OP is asking for is not a
template for creating multiple different but similar documents (as you might
with, say, a report template) but a template that includes a design. The
templates I pointed to online are of this type. They include graphics and
layout, requiring only that the user add a name. So in this sense, templates
are available and are useful to those (like me) who have only minimal design
skills.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

Subcommander mini-max is making up lies and fantasies about me again.

I never said such a template doesn't exist.

I implied that there would be no point in such a template, because
bookplates are one-off things.

I'm not responsible for the fact that subcommander mini-max doesn't
know what a bookplate is or is for (and that ducksrusmrducks may not
know the usual name for what he's looking for, but it was fully
identifiable from his description "This Book Belongs To book label".
Moreover, since in my response I supplied the usual name for what he
was looking for, if he still wanted such a template he would be able
to search for it and, as Suzanne found, find some.)

The world would be a much better place if subcommander mini-max would
simply never again look at any posting from me (and would stop sending
me emails).
 
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Greg Maxey

Mr. Daniels,

Your head is on fire. Is there no water flowing under your bridge? You
really should try to put it out before you burn down your bridge.

No point in such a template! What arrogance! Who are you to decide if
there is merit or not in ducksrusmrducks quest to find a suitable template?



Now you present a circular argument. First you argue that there is no point
in such a template and then you argue that you provided the OP the usual
name for such an item in case he still wanted such a template he would be
able to search for it and find some. Which is it Mr. Daniels? Are such
templates pointless or not? You were wrong again. Admit it. Your argument
here is so weak it is pathetic.



For better or worse, your world is going to be fraught with challenges to
your incorrect answers, biased and unsolicited opinions, and unbridled
arrogance until you either change your behavior and apologize to this group
for your past behavior or crawl back under your bridge to stay. These are
simple choices. Choose one.



Good day.



Greg Maxey

Subcommander mini-max is making up lies and fantasies about me again.

I never said such a template doesn't exist.

I implied that there would be no point in such a template, because
bookplates are one-off things.

I'm not responsible for the fact that subcommander mini-max doesn't
know what a bookplate is or is for (and that ducksrusmrducks may not
know the usual name for what he's looking for, but it was fully
identifiable from his description "This Book Belongs To book label".
Moreover, since in my response I supplied the usual name for what he
was looking for, if he still wanted such a template he would be able
to search for it and, as Suzanne found, find some.)

The world would be a much better place if subcommander mini-max would
simply never again look at any posting from me (and would stop sending
me emails).
 
G

Greg Maxey

Need "This Book Belongs To" book label template.

ducksrusmrducks,

You have probably deduced from the replies to your question that Peter
T. Daniels is a troll who lurks here with self proclaimed, mystical
powers of comprehension. He is a very sensitive reader and he is
renowned, in his own mind, for his ability to read for content rather
than context. He frequently claims to know what people really mean.
He also claims the uncanny ability to intuit what is actually going on
from what is unsaid.

You made a pretty straightforward request: Need "This Book Belongs
To" book label template.

I’ll leave it for you to decide the merit of Mr. Daniels’ reply and
his later admission that he was implying that the template you sought
was pointless. I am curious. Did you really want such a template or
did you just want Mr. Daniels’ to dodge the request, give you a proper
name, and share some meaningless trivia on how bookplates are used in
books on typography?

Moving past the bluster from under the bridge, I hope that you found
the information provided by Mr. Mayor and Ms. Barnhill useful. This
newsgroup was a much better place before Mr. Daniels crawled from the
slime and arrived on scene.

Good luck.
 
P

Peter T. Daniels

You can see from this message how vindictive and stupid subcommander
mini-max really is.

He somehow thinks that I said anything about bookplates being used in
books on typography.

He fails to understand that what is needed for your request is not a
template sort of tool, but a labels sort of tool -- as Graham has
suggested.

He fails to understand that everyone's bookplate is an individual
creation, which reflects your own needs and taste, and not someone
else's.

Perhaps subcommander mini-max's thirty years in the Navy drummed all
imagination and creativity out of him and left him with nothing but an
ache for the power he no longer has, to regulate the lives of the
dozens of men at his mercy.
 
P

Peter T. Daniels

What he didn't realize to ask for was a label device (without merge)
rather than a template, and Graham pointed him in the right direction.

Howcome my stalker didn't rise up when I noted that thank-you notes
should always be hand-written?

Howcome my stalker didn't rise up when someone else pointed out that
there shouldn't be two spaces after a period?
 
G

Greg Maxey

Mr. Daniels,

I think it is you with the lock on stupid. Do you try to be stupid or does
it come naturally?

Do you just babble here without any idea what you actually post?
He somehow thinks that I said anything about bookplates being used in
books on typography.

Yes he does. If you didn't post this then someone is posting using your
name:

"There's no standard design for bookplates. Books on typography often use
bookplates to show the imagination of designers!"

You are arguing in circles again. First you challenge Graham Mayor's
suggestion and now you champion it. If you weren't such a dilattante you
might realize that a Word template is still a template regardless if is used
as a tool for creating letters, creating labels, or creating bookplates.
Continue in your arguments as you wish. You are simply over your head and
out of your range.
 
S

Suzanne S. Barnhill

We'll never know unless he comes back to tell us, but I think he was looking
for a design as much as he was looking for a mechanism. If he looked in Word
for labels, I would hope he would eventually stumble over the Labels dialog,
especially if he was using standard labels such as Avery since the package
would probably mention that Word had support for them (and of course Avery
also provides templates).

Is "howcome" one word now? I don't think so.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

What he didn't realize to ask for was a label device (without merge)
rather than a template, and Graham pointed him in the right direction.

Howcome my stalker didn't rise up when I noted that thank-you notes
should always be hand-written?

Howcome my stalker didn't rise up when someone else pointed out that
there shouldn't be two spaces after a period?
 
P

Peter T. Daniels

I wouldn't think "howcome" has a place in formal writing; as a
colloquialism, I spell it to reflect the stress pattern in its
pronunciation.

I was dissuading him from looking for a design, pointing out (as my
stalker is too stupid to comprehend) that bookplates often serve as
examples of typographic design -- not that bookplates are "used"
specifically in books on typography for identifying the owner.
 
G

Greg Maxey

What he didn't realize to ask for was a label device (without merge)
rather than a template, and Graham pointed him in the right direction.

Howcome my stalker didn't rise up when I noted that thank-you notes
should always be hand-written?

Howcome my stalker didn't rise up when someone else pointed out that
there shouldn't be two spaces after a period?









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Mr. Daniels,
What he didn't realize to ask for was a label device (without merge)
rather than a template, and Graham pointed him in the right direction.

Everytime you open your mouth it drips with conceit. Now you pretend
to know what the man did or did not realize.

You still don't know if he wants a sheet or sheets of "bookplates" to
label one or hundreds of his personal books or one or hundreds of
student books. Accordingly your "(without merge)" condition and your
harebrained concept of a "label device" over a template further
illustrates your opinionated ignorance of the OP's requirement
specifically and Word in general.

Here you have gone and worked yourself up in a lather with childish
rants trying to defend your indefensible position. Your arguments are
spinning in circles like a top. Perhaps if you had it to do over again
you would have responded differently in your original reply. Perhaps
you would have simply let it pass, the preferred option, or offered a
solution rather than your unsolicited opinions. Unfortunately for you
and the rest of us, you didn't.

Perhaps you should take advantage of your "stalker," as you like to
refer to him. Instead of constantly flailing and stuffing yourself
with crow sandwiches, think of him as a helpful extension of your
conscience. Like a little helper sitting on your shoulder whispering
from time to time helpful tips like:

Peter stay in your range. This is over your head.
Peter, I know you think you know what other people really mean. You
are often wrong. Check yourself.
Peter, now you know that your preferred methods really aren't always
best or easiest.
Peter, bridle your arrogance.
Peter, you're beat. Stay down.

Have a nice day.
 
G

Greg Maxey

Still wrong, as he continues in his arguments, he has reduced himself to
drooling and babble. (Sigh)
 
G

Greg Maxey

Mr. Daniels,

What he didn't realize to ask for was a label device (without merge)
rather than a template, and Graham pointed him in the right direction.


Everytime you open your mouth it drips with conceit. Now you pretend
to know what the man did or did not realize.

You still don't know if he wants a sheet or sheets of "bookplates" to
label one or hundreds of his personal books or one or hundreds of
student books. Accordingly your "(without merge)" condition and your
harebrained concept of a "label device" over a template further
illustrates your opinionated ignorance of the OP's requirement
specifically and Word in general.


Here you have gone and worked yourself up in a lather with childish
rants trying to defend your indefensible position. Your arguments are
spinning in circles like a top. Perhaps if you had it to do over again
you would have responded differently in your original reply. Perhaps
you would have simply let it pass, the preferred option, or offered a
solution rather than your unsolicited opinions. Unfortunately for you
and the rest of us, you didn't.


Perhaps you should take advantage of your "stalker," as you like to
refer to him. Instead of constantly flailing and stuffing yourself
with crow sandwiches, think of him as a helpful extension of your
conscience. Like a little helper sitting on your shoulder whispering
from time to time helpful tips like:


Peter stay in your range. This is over your head.
Peter, I know you think you know what other people really mean. You
are often wrong. Check yourself.
Peter, now you know that your preferred methods really aren't always
best or easiest.
Peter, bridle your arrogance.
Peter, you're beat. Stay down.


Have a nice day.
 

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