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xmas
Devine intervention?
Me
=======================
Yep! The itty bittys are just a little smaller than a pea. How weird huh? I
would have expected some difference due to weather between AZ & FL.
My daughter asked and interesting question last night...how do they get
Easter Lillies to bloom on Easter. Hmmmm. How do I answer that?
Robo
| I checked today. Have some blossoms and some itty bitty oranges already.
|
| --
| Steve Easton
| Microsoft MVP FrontPage
| 95isalive
| This site is best viewed............
| .......................with a computer
|
message
| | I send you some...mine just finished blooming last week, the fruit buds
are
| already starting...ah the smell!
|
| Our oranges are ripe about a week before xmas every year.
|
| R.
|
|
| | | FM,
| |
| | Thanks for the great information.
| | I might even have some oranges this year.
| |
| | --
| | Steve Easton
| | Microsoft MVP FrontPage
| | 95isalive
| | This site is best viewed............
| | .......................with a computer
| |
| | | | > Steve,
| | > Most orange trees are alternate bearing. Depending on the weather, the
| | bloom
| | > will hold proportionate to the trees capability. The spliting is
usually
| | > caused by the orange's center growing faster than the skin. Now would
be
| a
| | > good time to prune the tree. The thorny branches you noted on the
tree
| | are
| | > a derivitive of the root stock and can be removed. . What you want to
| keep
| | > is recent growth (this years flush), a solid leaf structure to
maintain
| a
| | > good canopy and branches with fruit wood. You want to elininate
succors
| ,
| | > inside dead wood, branches growing down on the lower outside of the
| canopy
| | > (skirt the tree) and branches that are causing structural conflict in
| the
| | > tree or eliminating "too much sunlight" to the trees center. As soon
as
| | the
| | > bloom falls put a small amount of the "3's" (usually
| 30-30-30=percentages
| | of
| | > Nitrigen, Potassium and Phosphorus)at the base of the tree, far enough
| | from
| | > the trunk to catch the fringes of the root system.You can put on other
| | > minerals later if the tree show signs of need. Start the water no
later
| | than
| | > the end of petal fall. Potassium is the usual answer to spliting. It
| | > increases skin growth, better sizing. For your info we have some
| branches
| | > that bend as much as 4-5 feet downward from fruitload, without
breaking.
| | > You'll be surprised how much weight even the smallest twigs will hold.
| | >
| | > If its a potted dwarf then you might want to consider either a bigger
| pot
| | or
| | > planting it in the ground if possible.
| | >
| | > Valencias carry two crops a year. We started picking yesterday and
will
| | > probably finish about the first of June (about 135,000 40# cartons).
At
| | the
| | > same time next year's crop is blooming and setting on the trees. The
| | Navels
| | > were completed in February (300,000 40# cartons).
| | >
| | > We do have bees from Mid March to Mid April. Although its not
manditory.
| | >
| | > Good luck on your tree. The fruit on the tree, which I assume is a
| navel,
| | > should be picked off prior to bloom.
| | >
| | > Yes this is our time of Heaven. My office is in the middle of the
grove!
| | >
| | > Bob
| | >
| | > | | > > FM, Thanks for the response
| | > >
| | > > The tree and the root graft are exactly as you describe it.
| | > > It's an orange tree ( variety escapes me at the moment though )
| | > >
| | > > We'll leave the blossoms on this year, but if there are as many as
| past
| | > year
| | > > I'm afraid the poor thing will fall over.
| | > > We did miss one blossom last year, but the fruit split as it started
| to
| | > > ripen
| | > >
| | > > 50000 orange trees in bloom must be a beautiful sight, let alone the
| | scent
| | > > of orange blossoms in the air.
| | > > Do you maintain Honey Bees to help with pollination??
| | > >
| | > > As an aside, the company Christie ( better half ) works with is in
the
| | > > orange oils / citrus oils business.
| | > > Move the stuff by the tank truck load.
| | > > They just turned down an offer from one of the orange processors to
| | > > guarantee loads to them at .45 cents a pound because the owner
thinks
| | > orange
| | > > oils / d-limonine prices etc. are going lower.
| | > >
| | > >
| | > > --
| | > > Steve Easton
| | > > Microsoft MVP FrontPage
| | > > 95isalive
| | > > This site is best viewed............
| | > > .......................with a computer
| | > >
| | > > | | > > > Dear Steve,
| | > > > I hate to tell you but you've been had. I don't know what your
root
| | > stock
| | > > > looks like now but at three years old it should be the first 2-3
| | inches
| | > of
| | > > > the tree above ground. Once the variety is grafted onto the root
| stock
| | > it
| | > > > becomes the foundation of the tree's root system and has little or
| | > nothing
| | > > > to do with the cultural practise of the tree. Flying Dragon is
| nothing
| | > > more
| | > > > than a variety of Trifoliate Stock. Its used mainly in Dwarf
trees.
| We
| | > > > happen to plant on C35, which is a more tolerant variety to cold
| | > weather.
| | > > > Whoever told you to pinch off the blossums is nuts. You do that
for
| | > stone
| | > > > fruit (ie peaches etc) because the branch system is to weak to
hold
| | the
| | > > > fruit. Mother nature will do its own work, leave the blossums
alone.
| | If
| | > > you
| | > > > have a dwarf variety you should still have a single truck that by
| now
| | is
| | > 1
| | > > > 1/2 - 2 feet high to the crouch. If you have branches below that ,
| | > coming
| | > > > out of the root stock, they are succors and should be pruned off.
| What
| | > > > variety of fruit is grafted to the stock? You can grow peach
bushes
| | but
| | > > > oranges don't do well as a bush. The root stock is important in
| | freezing
| | > > > areas because you can burn the branch system and it will recover.
I
| | > won't
| | > > go
| | > > > into a lot of technicals but when the root system freezes the
trees
| | > gone.
| | > > Is
| | > > > your tree blooming right now? We've got 50,000 that are.
| | > > >
| | > > > Bob
| | > > >
| | > > > | | > > > > I am really serious.
| | > > > > Only have one Orange tree, but it is / was grafted to Flying
| Dragon
| | > root
| | > > > > stock.
| | > > > > Had to listen to a lecture from the guy we bought it from as to
| how
| | to
| | > > > take
| | > > > > care of it.
| | > > > > It's going on year three and we still are supposed to pluck the
| | > blossoms
| | > > > > every year.
| | > > > > It has the "checked for cancer" registration tag and all.
| | > > > > Big thing here in Florida because it is supposedly more freeze
| | > tolerant.
| | > > > > Now, what the root stock which lives underground has to do with
| | freeze
| | > > > > tolerance for the tree that lives above ground is beyond me.
| | > > > >
| | > > > > The root stock itself looks like a bramble with thorns.
| | > > > > ( we had to be shown it in the nursery where we bought the
tree )
| | > > > >
| | > > > > Do a Google search for "flying dragon rootstock" with the
quotes.
| | > > > >
| | > > > > --
| | > > > > Steve Easton
| | > > > > Microsoft MVP FrontPage
| | > > > > 95isalive
| | > > > > This site is best viewed............
| | > > > > .......................with a computer
| | > > > >
| | > > > > | | > > > > > Steve,
| | > > > > > I've heard of some weird "root stocks" but that one's out of
my
| | > realm.
| | > > > If
| | > > > > > you're serious let me know and I'll research it.
| | > > > > >
| | > > > > > Bob
| | > > > > >
| | > > > > > | | > > > > > > No Flying Dragon root stock, or is that more of a Florida
| | > variety??
| | > > > > > >
| | > > > > > >
| | > > > > > >
| | > > > > > > --
| | > > > > > > Steve Easton
| | > > > > > > Microsoft MVP FrontPage
| | > > > > > > 95isalive
| | > > > > > > This site is best viewed............
| | > > > > > > .......................with a computer
| | > > > > > >
| | > > > > > > | | > > > > > > > Just a word of thanks. I got one of my projects done.
| | > > > > > > > Is at. http://www.agriswiss.com/Ranch Photos.htm
| | > > > > > > >
| | > > > > > > > I still have some work to do on the other site but at
least
| | I'm
| | > > > making
| | > > > > > > > progress.
| | > > > > > > >
| | > > > > > > > Sincerely,
| | > > > > > > >
| | > > > > > > > Bob
| | > > > > > > >
| | > > > > > > >
| | > > > > > > >
| | > > > > > >
| | > > > > > >
| | > > > > >
| | > > > > >
| | > > > >
| | > > > >
| | > > >
| | > > >
| | > >
| | > >
| | >
| | >
| |
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|
Me
=======================
Yep! The itty bittys are just a little smaller than a pea. How weird huh? I
would have expected some difference due to weather between AZ & FL.
My daughter asked and interesting question last night...how do they get
Easter Lillies to bloom on Easter. Hmmmm. How do I answer that?
Robo
| I checked today. Have some blossoms and some itty bitty oranges already.
|
| --
| Steve Easton
| Microsoft MVP FrontPage
| 95isalive
| This site is best viewed............
| .......................with a computer
|
message
| | I send you some...mine just finished blooming last week, the fruit buds
are
| already starting...ah the smell!
|
| Our oranges are ripe about a week before xmas every year.
|
| R.
|
|
| | | FM,
| |
| | Thanks for the great information.
| | I might even have some oranges this year.
| |
| | --
| | Steve Easton
| | Microsoft MVP FrontPage
| | 95isalive
| | This site is best viewed............
| | .......................with a computer
| |
| | | | > Steve,
| | > Most orange trees are alternate bearing. Depending on the weather, the
| | bloom
| | > will hold proportionate to the trees capability. The spliting is
usually
| | > caused by the orange's center growing faster than the skin. Now would
be
| a
| | > good time to prune the tree. The thorny branches you noted on the
tree
| | are
| | > a derivitive of the root stock and can be removed. . What you want to
| keep
| | > is recent growth (this years flush), a solid leaf structure to
maintain
| a
| | > good canopy and branches with fruit wood. You want to elininate
succors
| ,
| | > inside dead wood, branches growing down on the lower outside of the
| canopy
| | > (skirt the tree) and branches that are causing structural conflict in
| the
| | > tree or eliminating "too much sunlight" to the trees center. As soon
as
| | the
| | > bloom falls put a small amount of the "3's" (usually
| 30-30-30=percentages
| | of
| | > Nitrigen, Potassium and Phosphorus)at the base of the tree, far enough
| | from
| | > the trunk to catch the fringes of the root system.You can put on other
| | > minerals later if the tree show signs of need. Start the water no
later
| | than
| | > the end of petal fall. Potassium is the usual answer to spliting. It
| | > increases skin growth, better sizing. For your info we have some
| branches
| | > that bend as much as 4-5 feet downward from fruitload, without
breaking.
| | > You'll be surprised how much weight even the smallest twigs will hold.
| | >
| | > If its a potted dwarf then you might want to consider either a bigger
| pot
| | or
| | > planting it in the ground if possible.
| | >
| | > Valencias carry two crops a year. We started picking yesterday and
will
| | > probably finish about the first of June (about 135,000 40# cartons).
At
| | the
| | > same time next year's crop is blooming and setting on the trees. The
| | Navels
| | > were completed in February (300,000 40# cartons).
| | >
| | > We do have bees from Mid March to Mid April. Although its not
manditory.
| | >
| | > Good luck on your tree. The fruit on the tree, which I assume is a
| navel,
| | > should be picked off prior to bloom.
| | >
| | > Yes this is our time of Heaven. My office is in the middle of the
grove!
| | >
| | > Bob
| | >
| | > | | > > FM, Thanks for the response
| | > >
| | > > The tree and the root graft are exactly as you describe it.
| | > > It's an orange tree ( variety escapes me at the moment though )
| | > >
| | > > We'll leave the blossoms on this year, but if there are as many as
| past
| | > year
| | > > I'm afraid the poor thing will fall over.
| | > > We did miss one blossom last year, but the fruit split as it started
| to
| | > > ripen
| | > >
| | > > 50000 orange trees in bloom must be a beautiful sight, let alone the
| | scent
| | > > of orange blossoms in the air.
| | > > Do you maintain Honey Bees to help with pollination??
| | > >
| | > > As an aside, the company Christie ( better half ) works with is in
the
| | > > orange oils / citrus oils business.
| | > > Move the stuff by the tank truck load.
| | > > They just turned down an offer from one of the orange processors to
| | > > guarantee loads to them at .45 cents a pound because the owner
thinks
| | > orange
| | > > oils / d-limonine prices etc. are going lower.
| | > >
| | > >
| | > > --
| | > > Steve Easton
| | > > Microsoft MVP FrontPage
| | > > 95isalive
| | > > This site is best viewed............
| | > > .......................with a computer
| | > >
| | > > | | > > > Dear Steve,
| | > > > I hate to tell you but you've been had. I don't know what your
root
| | > stock
| | > > > looks like now but at three years old it should be the first 2-3
| | inches
| | > of
| | > > > the tree above ground. Once the variety is grafted onto the root
| stock
| | > it
| | > > > becomes the foundation of the tree's root system and has little or
| | > nothing
| | > > > to do with the cultural practise of the tree. Flying Dragon is
| nothing
| | > > more
| | > > > than a variety of Trifoliate Stock. Its used mainly in Dwarf
trees.
| We
| | > > > happen to plant on C35, which is a more tolerant variety to cold
| | > weather.
| | > > > Whoever told you to pinch off the blossums is nuts. You do that
for
| | > stone
| | > > > fruit (ie peaches etc) because the branch system is to weak to
hold
| | the
| | > > > fruit. Mother nature will do its own work, leave the blossums
alone.
| | If
| | > > you
| | > > > have a dwarf variety you should still have a single truck that by
| now
| | is
| | > 1
| | > > > 1/2 - 2 feet high to the crouch. If you have branches below that ,
| | > coming
| | > > > out of the root stock, they are succors and should be pruned off.
| What
| | > > > variety of fruit is grafted to the stock? You can grow peach
bushes
| | but
| | > > > oranges don't do well as a bush. The root stock is important in
| | freezing
| | > > > areas because you can burn the branch system and it will recover.
I
| | > won't
| | > > go
| | > > > into a lot of technicals but when the root system freezes the
trees
| | > gone.
| | > > Is
| | > > > your tree blooming right now? We've got 50,000 that are.
| | > > >
| | > > > Bob
| | > > >
| | > > > | | > > > > I am really serious.
| | > > > > Only have one Orange tree, but it is / was grafted to Flying
| Dragon
| | > root
| | > > > > stock.
| | > > > > Had to listen to a lecture from the guy we bought it from as to
| how
| | to
| | > > > take
| | > > > > care of it.
| | > > > > It's going on year three and we still are supposed to pluck the
| | > blossoms
| | > > > > every year.
| | > > > > It has the "checked for cancer" registration tag and all.
| | > > > > Big thing here in Florida because it is supposedly more freeze
| | > tolerant.
| | > > > > Now, what the root stock which lives underground has to do with
| | freeze
| | > > > > tolerance for the tree that lives above ground is beyond me.
| | > > > >
| | > > > > The root stock itself looks like a bramble with thorns.
| | > > > > ( we had to be shown it in the nursery where we bought the
tree )
| | > > > >
| | > > > > Do a Google search for "flying dragon rootstock" with the
quotes.
| | > > > >
| | > > > > --
| | > > > > Steve Easton
| | > > > > Microsoft MVP FrontPage
| | > > > > 95isalive
| | > > > > This site is best viewed............
| | > > > > .......................with a computer
| | > > > >
| | > > > > | | > > > > > Steve,
| | > > > > > I've heard of some weird "root stocks" but that one's out of
my
| | > realm.
| | > > > If
| | > > > > > you're serious let me know and I'll research it.
| | > > > > >
| | > > > > > Bob
| | > > > > >
| | > > > > > | | > > > > > > No Flying Dragon root stock, or is that more of a Florida
| | > variety??
| | > > > > > >
| | > > > > > >
| | > > > > > >
| | > > > > > > --
| | > > > > > > Steve Easton
| | > > > > > > Microsoft MVP FrontPage
| | > > > > > > 95isalive
| | > > > > > > This site is best viewed............
| | > > > > > > .......................with a computer
| | > > > > > >
| | > > > > > > | | > > > > > > > Just a word of thanks. I got one of my projects done.
| | > > > > > > > Is at. http://www.agriswiss.com/Ranch Photos.htm
| | > > > > > > >
| | > > > > > > > I still have some work to do on the other site but at
least
| | I'm
| | > > > making
| | > > > > > > > progress.
| | > > > > > > >
| | > > > > > > > Sincerely,
| | > > > > > > >
| | > > > > > > > Bob
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