Collapse of subnotes

[DZ]

The ability to collapse and expand folders/notes has been the cornerstone of
organizational tools such as explorer since the earliest days of Windows.
Why doesn't the MS flagship of organization, OneNote, have this relatively
basic construct?

Thanks for the chance to give input.
Dave

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[Rainald Taesler]

Irina Yatsenko (MS) shared these words of wisdom:

For subpages we've considered doing it but the statistical data
about actual usage showed that not many people are into subpages.

Really???
I can hardly believe that.
Using subpages IMO is one of the most important features for getting
things organized.

Could it have to do with the way subpages worked in ON 2003?

Rainald

 

[Judy Reese]

For subpages we've considered doing it but the statistical data about actual
usage showed that not many people are into subpages. There also was another
cool feature, UI for which would conflict with the possible UI for collapsed
pages (we've later had to cut the feature but it was too late to come back to
collapsable subpages anyway).

Just to add some feedback on this, I for one DO use subpages a lot and
would appreciate the ability to collapse them. Hope it can get added
sometime in the future.

Judy

 

[Rainald Taesler]

Judy Reese shared these words of wisdom:

Just to add some feedback on this, I for one DO use subpages a lot
and would appreciate the ability to collapse them. Hope it can get
added sometime in the future.

Me too.
I would very much appreciate it.

Rainald

 

[Rainald Taesler]

Trey Selman shared these words of wisdom:

I am new user to OneNote 2007 and love it.

Welcome to the Club!!

Rainald

 

[Jonathan]

Thank you for giving it [the input].
I assume you are talking about the ability to collapse subpages under the
parent page because for the notebooks and folders, they are collapsabled in
the navigation pane (ON2007).

Ms. Yatsenko,
I would use the subpages more if they were collapsable because by tucking
out of the way in this fashion they would not add to the length of the page
list on the right.

For instance, I keep thoughts and info about everyday behavior and test
scores for my fifth graders on subpages "under" their name (in one section)
but it is getting very cluttered in that section. There are plenty of good
reasons to keep this kind of information in separate buckets -- not use long
pages to keep more info in each named subpage. So I, too, would like that to
appear in the future.

I hope that OneNote will be a quick and evident success so MS gives the team
the resources for a quick turnover of product versions/updates. I would hate
to wait until 2011. I'm old enough to wonder if I will see it! <grin>

Jonathan Rawle

 

[Jonathan]

Not only would I like to see this implemented, I would also suggest a
companion feature that would aggregate a page and all of its subpages into
the main page, by copying the content of the subpages (in the current order)
to the end of the main page.

I hope the PowerToy writers out there monitor all these threads. This would
add a lot of functionality to OneNote for me, too. A teacher keeps
information available and in discrete buckets (the subpages) during the
school year (or the current quarter) and then sweeps it into the student's
page at the end of the [chosen] time period. For "teacher" read "manager" in
many other environments.

Jonathan Rawle

 

[GobinderConvert?]

I stopped using subpages because I found that moving the master page did not
bring with it the sub pages. Instead the subpages just turn into regular
pages in the old location. I guess I would say if the collapse feature is
added, please also make it so the pages travel together also.

Thank you for giving it [the input].
I assume you are talking about the ability to collapse subpages under the
parent page because for the notebooks and folders, they are collapsabled in
the navigation pane (ON2007).
For subpages we've considered doing it but the statistical data about actual
usage showed that not many people are into subpages. There also was another
cool feature, UI for which would conflict with the possible UI for collapsed
pages (we've later had to cut the feature but it was too late to come back to
collapsable subpages anyway).
Basically, there are always tradeoffs the development team has to do even
with regard to small, seemingly obvious features. Sometimes we take
subobtimal decisions and it's great you, users, give us feedback on it, but
usually there are more than one reason "why" a specific feature didn't make
it into a release

-Irina

The ability to collapse and expand folders/notes has been the cornerstone of
organizational tools such as explorer since the earliest days of Windows.
Why doesn't the MS flagship of organization, OneNote, have this relatively
basic construct?

Thanks for the chance to give input.
Dave

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[EMRhelp.org]

Subpages aren't useful. As outlined, they really aren't sub pages at
all. A sub page would be MOVED if the Master Page was moved. You
can't collapse subpages because they aren't really subpages in an
objective sense.

Subpages are just regular pages with a smaller area for the title to
show. That's not useful at all ! I might feel a subpage was useful
if it was a lighter color so I could *EASILY* visually see the main
Titles (and not the subpage titles). But that's not the case.

So really subpages are just subpages in name.
Not function.

I think of OneNote subpages as sTubpages, just a regular page with a
stubbier Tab. I'll pass.

The only use for collapsable subpages would be to allow more Main
pages to be viewable on one screen and I think that would be useful
for larger OneNote sections.

My first OneNote 2007 "complaint". Feels good. Of course who
cares about subpages when OneNote synchs over Hamachi ! LOVE IT>

 

[EMRhelp.org]

I have to disagree with you here. There is usefulness to subpages. At
my medical school, we get powerpoints and pdf handouts with each
lecture. I take notes on the powerpoint in lecture, and then the pdf
becomes a subpage of the powerpoint. It is just another level of
architecture.

In your usage, you could easily substitute putting the pdf on a page
below the lecture (not a subpage). Wouldn't make any difference.