Email obfuscation

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Randy Morgan

One of the points of feedback I've gotten on the site I developed is
that I should *never* have actual email addresses in the code or those
addresses will get flooded with spam.

Let's assume that's true. The site
http://www.seowebsitepromotion.com/obfuscate_email.asp
was recommended as one to generate an obfuscated email address that spam
harvesters won't be able to find, at least not easily?

I can't find any built-in capability in FP to this sort of thing. Does
it exist? If it does, great. If it doesn't, does anybody have
experience with this service or doing this within a FP website? I'd
rather not have to go into the code in each instance if I can avoid it.

Thanks,
Randy Morgan
 
T

Tom Pepper Willett

You can download the free FP addin "Spam Spoiler" from www.jimcoaddions.com
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Tom "Pepper" Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
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| One of the points of feedback I've gotten on the site I developed is
| that I should *never* have actual email addresses in the code or those
| addresses will get flooded with spam.
|
| Let's assume that's true. The site
| http://www.seowebsitepromotion.com/obfuscate_email.asp
| was recommended as one to generate an obfuscated email address that spam
| harvesters won't be able to find, at least not easily?
|
| I can't find any built-in capability in FP to this sort of thing. Does
| it exist? If it does, great. If it doesn't, does anybody have
| experience with this service or doing this within a FP website? I'd
| rather not have to go into the code in each instance if I can avoid it.
|
| Thanks,
| Randy Morgan
|
| --
| Randy Morgan
 
R

Randy Morgan

But this will break if a user doesn't have JavaScript enabled in their
browser, correct?

Randy Morgan
 
T

Tom Pepper Willett

....and so will any of the other countless javascript features that are used
by countless web sites.

You can detect whether javascript is enabled on the computer and advise the
visitor to make it active. For example, put in the head tag:

<NOSCRIPT>
<p><font face="Arial, Helvetica, Sans-Serif" size="2"><font
color="#FF0000"><b>
JavaScript Disabled</b></font><br>
JavaScript required to send us email. If you have disabled JavaScript<br>
in your browser, you must reenable JavaScript and refresh this
page.</font></p>
</NOSCRIPT>

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Tom "Pepper" Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
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About FrontPage 2003:
http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
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| Randy Morgan wrote:
| > But this will break if a user doesn't have JavaScript enabled in their
| > browser, correct?
| >
|
| Yes. So will any other method of e-mail address obfuscation on the
client.
|
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| JIMCO Software
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| http://www.jimcoaddins.com
|
| The premiere add-in and software source
| for Microsoft FrontPage.
|
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R

Randy Morgan

....and I think maybe you're just a wee bit touchy. My question wasn't a
criticism of the product or of those who helpfully suggested it, but
rather a request for clarification to confirm my understanding of the
product.

I'm still learning this stuff. I have some JS validation code on my
site and am finding that, despite studies which indicate nearly
everybody has JS enabled these days, my audience is somewhat behind the
curve on this, and about 1 in 10 of the visitors so far do not have JS
enabled. It's one thing to have a contact validation form fail to
execute, but another to have email links not work (that, at least, is my
view), so where possible I'll avoid using JS if a viable alternative
exists. This is why I asked about the method I referenced in my
original post. That method does not seem to require JS in the browser,
but looks like a bigger pain to use than the very handy and very free
Jimco add-in. Development is at least partially about choices, right?

Your <noscript> code is mucho appreciado. Can it be configured to pop
up in an alert window instead of....umm, no, wait, hmmm....

Randy Morgan
 
S

Steve Easton

10 percent of internet users have javascript "intentionally" disabled.
It has to be "intentionally disabled," because it is on by default when
the OS and browser are installed.


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Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
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This site is best viewed............
........................with a computer
 
T

Tom Pepper Willett

Not at all touchy, Randy. Didn't get the impression you were being
critical. Just trying to point out about all JS features in a web site.

JS is a very much used item in many, many web sites, as I stated.
Especially major web sites.

IMHO, those that may have JS disabled are *not* the average web user, but
*overzealous pros* who use all methods to *protect* themsevles. If they see
an noscript prompt, I would think they would enable if for the session.

Best,
--
===
Tom "Pepper" Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
About FrontPage 2003:
http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
===
| ...and I think maybe you're just a wee bit touchy. My question wasn't a
| criticism of the product or of those who helpfully suggested it, but
| rather a request for clarification to confirm my understanding of the
| product.
|
| I'm still learning this stuff. I have some JS validation code on my
| site and am finding that, despite studies which indicate nearly
| everybody has JS enabled these days, my audience is somewhat behind the
| curve on this, and about 1 in 10 of the visitors so far do not have JS
| enabled. It's one thing to have a contact validation form fail to
| execute, but another to have email links not work (that, at least, is my
| view), so where possible I'll avoid using JS if a viable alternative
| exists. This is why I asked about the method I referenced in my
| original post. That method does not seem to require JS in the browser,
| but looks like a bigger pain to use than the very handy and very free
| Jimco add-in. Development is at least partially about choices, right?
|
| Your <noscript> code is mucho appreciado. Can it be configured to pop
| up in an alert window instead of....umm, no, wait, hmmm....
|
| Randy Morgan
|
| Tom Pepper Willett wrote:
| > ...and so will any of the other countless javascript features that are
used
| > by countless web sites.
| >
| > You can detect whether javascript is enabled on the computer and advise
the
| > visitor to make it active. For example, put in the head tag:
| >
| > <NOSCRIPT>
| > <p><font face="Arial, Helvetica, Sans-Serif" size="2"><font
| > color="#FF0000"><b>
| > JavaScript Disabled</b></font><br>
| > JavaScript required to send us email. If you have disabled
JavaScript<br>
| > in your browser, you must reenable JavaScript and refresh this
| > page.</font></p>
| > </NOSCRIPT>
| >
 
R

Randy Morgan

It's probably just my bad luck the the non-JS crowd I've encountered so
far is made up primarily (though not exclusively) of my in-laws, and I'm
the Help Desk. I thought it was enabled by default, too, so I don't
know how they disabled it in the first place.

At any rate, the Jimco add-in works beautifully (no surprise), and so
does the other method if any of y'all want another way to get it done
and aren't afraid of Code View.

Randy Morgan
 

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