Firefox and FP

[Izod]

I have some viewers that use firefox and they can't get the .wmv files.
I finally broke down and downloaded FF and the plug-in for .wmv files.
Do I have to load that in the web site, or is it the viewers that need
it? Not to sure how to do this. At any rate, I couldn't view the .wmv
files in FF with the plug in. What do I need to do?


Izod

 

[P@tty Ayers]

I have some viewers that use firefox and they can't get the .wmv files. I
finally broke down and downloaded FF and the plug-in for .wmv files. Do I
have to load that in the web site, or is it the viewers that need it? Not
to sure how to do this. At any rate, I couldn't view the .wmv files in FF
with the plug in. What do I need to do?

Firefox has about 15% of the public user population (about 1 in 6 or 7 of
your site's visitors), so don't let it be an afterthought..!

It's your users who need whatever plug-ins are necessary, and of course you
can't be sure that all your users have a certain plug-in. Why not convert
the .wmv to a more common file type, like .mpg or Flash?

 

[Izod]

These files are long. 1.5 to 2.0 hours. These are meetings of
Trustees. I convert them now to .wmv for streaming video. Maybe that
will work. I just used wmv because I read somewhere that it was the way
to go because of the streaming capabilities and these were long files.

Izod

 

[Izod]

Also, when I look at www.trailerestatesflorida.com with FF. The video
page does not show where there is even a video file available. It's
blank where the .wmv files are inserted. And, I've loaded the plug-in.
Must be something else I have to do.

Thanks Izod.

 

[P@tty Ayers]

Also, when I look at www.trailerestatesflorida.com with FF. The video
page does not show where there is even a video file available. It's blank
where the .wmv files are inserted. And, I've loaded the plug-in. Must be
something else I have to do.

Maybe so - sorry, I'm not all that familiar with using .wmv files.
Converting the file to Flash video would avoid these problems.

 

[Izod]

Patty, I just tried converting to Flash. 1 hr and 10 wmv files was
still converting after 2 hours. Thanks for the idea. Izod

 

[Omar Abid]

I have some viewers that use firefox and they can't get the .wmv files.
I finally broke down and downloaded FF and the plug-in for .wmv files.
Do I have to load that in the web site, or is it the viewers that need
it? Not to sure how to do this. At any rate, I couldn't view the .wmv
files in FF with the plug in. What do I need to do?

Izod

IE is made by Microsoft and FP also but FF is made by Mozilla so sure
that all u made with FP is compatible with IE but for FF u can use a
Script to detect the browser and then u have to make 2 page one for FF
and the other for IE
Omar Abid
http://groups.google.com/group/VB2005
Visual Basic 2005 | Google Groups

 

[P@tty Ayers]

Patty, I just tried converting to Flash. 1 hr and 10 wmv files was still
converting after 2 hours. Thanks for the idea. Izod

Most videos on the web are under 5 minutes long. 2-hour videos must be
enormous files, of a size not normally presented for download from the web.
I'd suggest looking for some way to distribute the files other than placing
them on the web. And realistically, is anyone really going to sit at his
computer for 2 hours watching a Board of Trustees meeting on a 3-inch
screen? Maybe the videos could be edited to a more reasonable size.

 

[P@tty Ayers]

IE is made by Microsoft and FP also but FF is made by Mozilla so sure
that all u made with FP is compatible with IE but for FF u can use a
Script to detect the browser and then u have to make 2 page one for FF
and the other for IE

With all due respect, Omar, this is a very bad suggestion. #1, good-quality
web pages, regardless of the web editor used to create them, will display
correctly in Firefox as well as Internet Explorer. Creating two different
pages for two different browsers is a work-intensive, inefficient way to
handle any browser-compatibility problems, and should be avoided at all
costs.

 

[Izod]

The are big, I have no problem handling them. It's Firefox that can't.
However, the visitors that want to see the meetings can have both IE and
FF without a problem. Just some folks don't understand that. Streaming
the video I think is the only way to do this, that way, when the buffers
fill it starts playing and you don't have to wait for the file to
completely downloaded.

Can't edit meetings. These meetings are a public record of what took
place, and are legal records. They would lynch me if I took anything
out.

And Yes, people watch these meetings from all over the states, they have
an investment in this park and need to be kept informed. You should see
the email I get when I don't get it posted in a reasonable amount of
time.

Izod

 

[Izod]

Sorry Patty.... But you do need a plug-in for .wmv files.
In fact you need to get involved if you are running Firefox and want to
view .wmv files. See the follow:

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=206213

Izod

 

[Omar Abid]

Sorry Patty.... But you do need a plug-in for .wmv files.
In fact you need to get involved if you are running Firefox and want to
view .wmv files. See the follow:

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=206213

Izod

What i wanted to say that IE plugin FF plugin aren't the same and
aren't compatible
Omar Abid
http://groups.google.com/group/VB2005
Visual Basic 2005 | Google Groups

 

[Omar Abid]

With all due respect, Omar, this is a very bad suggestion. #1, good-quality
web pages, regardless of the web editor used to create them, will display
correctly in Firefox as well as Internet Explorer. Creating two different
pages for two different browsers is a work-intensive, inefficient way to
handle any browser-compatibility problems, and should be avoided at all
costs.

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Hi,
FF and IE aren't the same, i won't say to recreate the whole page but
some difference and i'll give you one !
When you create a div using Front Page and try to see the page using
IE all works right but when you see it using FF you'll see that the
div isn'tin the right place.
=>Each Browser has different resolution
Bytheway FF doesn't support some Java or VB script that IE support
and there's a lot of exemples
Omar Abid
http://groups.google.com/group/VB2005
Visual Basic 2005 | Google Groups

 

[Ronx]

When you create a div using Front Page and try to see the page using

IE all works right but when you see it using FF you'll see that the
div isn'tin the right place.

I have never noticed that. In fact, all my pages (with 3 exceptions
that use VML graphics) look about the same in every browser from the
last 8 years except Lynx, Netscape 4, IE5.0, and early versions of
Opera.

If this happens, then the HTML or CSS is wrong or needs slight tweaking.

Browsers do not have resolution - screens do, and that will be the same
for all browsers used on that screen.
--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.

http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp

FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/

 

[Stefan B Rusynko]

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| The are big, I have no problem handling them. It's Firefox that can't.
| However, the visitors that want to see the meetings can have both IE and
| FF without a problem. Just some folks don't understand that. Streaming
| the video I think is the only way to do this, that way, when the buffers
| fill it starts playing and you don't have to wait for the file to
| completely downloaded.
|
| Can't edit meetings. These meetings are a public record of what took
| place, and are legal records. They would lynch me if I took anything
| out.
|
| And Yes, people watch these meetings from all over the states, they have
| an investment in this park and need to be kept informed. You should see
| the email I get when I don't get it posted in a reasonable amount of
| time.
|
| Izod
|
|
| | >
| > | >> Patty, I just tried converting to Flash. 1 hr and 10 wmv files was
| >> still converting after 2 hours. Thanks for the idea. Izod
| >
| > Most videos on the web are under 5 minutes long. 2-hour videos must be
| > enormous files, of a size not normally presented for download from the
| > web. I'd suggest looking for some way to distribute the files other
| > than placing them on the web. And realistically, is anyone really
| > going to sit at his computer for 2 hours watching a Board of Trustees
| > meeting on a 3-inch screen? Maybe the videos could be edited to a more
| > reasonable size.
| >
| >
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| > Patty Ayers | www.WebDevBiz.com
| > Free Articles on the Business of Web Development
| > Web Design Contract, Estimate Request Form, Estimate Worksheet
| > --
| >
| >
| >
| >
| >
|
|

 

[Omar Abid]

I have never noticed that. In fact, all my pages (with 3 exceptions
that use VML graphics) look about the same in every browser from the
last 8 years except Lynx, Netscape 4, IE5.0, and early versions of
Opera.

If this happens, then the HTML or CSS is wrong or needs slight tweaking.

Browsers do not have resolution - screens do, and that will be the same
for all browsers used on that screen.
--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.

http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp

FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/

I have an exemple of page that works well with IE but when runnin' it
with FF the graphic change i'll search for it and send to you so you
can see
Omar Abid

 

[P@tty Ayers]

Sorry Patty.... But you do need a plug-in for .wmv files.
In fact you need to get involved if you are running Firefox and want to
view .wmv files. See the follow:

What I wrote is that there's never any need to create different web pages to
accommodate different browsers, which is true.

 

[Izod]

I down loaded all the things it tells me to do and have tried everything
on that page to fix
it. But cant seem to make it work in Vista, or Xp.
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=206213

I just now updated to Window Media 11.
I will try a Firefox group and see what they say about it.

Izod

Sorry Patty.... But you do need a plug-in for .wmv files.
In fact you need to get involved if you are running Firefox and want
to
view .wmv files. See the follow:

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=206213

Izod

 

[Izod]

The files are on a Host. I have no problems other then users running
Firefox can't see videos.

www.trailerestateflorida.com

However, user's can have both browsers on their computer if they are
interested enough
to watch a Old Farts Trustee Meeting.

Izod

 

[Omar Abid]

What I wrote is that there's never any need to create different web pages to
accommodate different browsers, which is true.

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Sory you have reason we won't create different pages but with
Scripting we make different script
a script for each navigator
Sometimes we create different pages when a page is based on scripts
because scripts are not compatible with all browser
Omar Abid