FYI: Magazine article: Meet the Access Team

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Tony Toews

http://msaccessadvisor.com/doc/16480

Selected quote:

With that climate and emphasis on integration in mind, can you give us any ideas of
what we might be able to expect in version 12?

RUCKER: We can talk about the next version of Access only to the extent of what
Richard McAniff said at the Office Developer's Conference back in February, which is
to say there is one. There's a large team working on it, much larger than there has
been for quite a number a versions. For Richard, it's the release he's most excited
about since version 1, which he worked on way back then. There's a ton of things
going on. It's a little early to talk about what they are yet, but there will be a
new release and we're quite excited about that.

MILLER: I'll second Richard's thoughts. I've worked on every version of the product
since version 1, and this is, in my opinion, one of, if not the most, exciting
release we're working on now. One thing that will become apparent is although it's
hard to give developers, or users for that matter, every feature they've requested,
we're finally getting around to some key features for some people. I can't talk about
what those are, but there are some things people will be pretty happy with. The folks
we have under NDA who we've shown the product to so far have been pretty excited by
the things we've done, and that's been rewarding for us to see that we're investing
in the areas people care so much about. So, it's a question of how much we hit the
sweet spot at this point. Time will tell.

I think it's going to be a great, exciting release. There's going to be a lot of new
energy around the product.

--
Tony Toews, Microsoft Access MVP
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Bob Alston

Tony said:
http://msaccessadvisor.com/doc/16480

Selected quote:

With that climate and emphasis on integration in mind, can you give us any ideas of
what we might be able to expect in version 12?

RUCKER: We can talk about the next version of Access only to the extent of what
Richard McAniff said at the Office Developer's Conference back in February, which is
to say there is one. There's a large team working on it, much larger than there has
been for quite a number a versions. For Richard, it's the release he's most excited
about since version 1, which he worked on way back then. There's a ton of things
going on. It's a little early to talk about what they are yet, but there will be a
new release and we're quite excited about that.

MILLER: I'll second Richard's thoughts. I've worked on every version of the product
since version 1, and this is, in my opinion, one of, if not the most, exciting
release we're working on now. One thing that will become apparent is although it's
hard to give developers, or users for that matter, every feature they've requested,
we're finally getting around to some key features for some people. I can't talk about
what those are, but there are some things people will be pretty happy with. The folks
we have under NDA who we've shown the product to so far have been pretty excited by
the things we've done, and that's been rewarding for us to see that we're investing
in the areas people care so much about. So, it's a question of how much we hit the
sweet spot at this point. Time will tell.

I think it's going to be a great, exciting release. There's going to be a lot of new
energy around the product.

--
Tony Toews, Microsoft Access MVP
Please respond only in the newsgroups so that others can
read the entire thread of messages.
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http://www.granite.ab.ca/accsmstr.htm
Any idea when the new release may be available?

Also when might we find out what is in it?

bob
 
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Tony Toews

Bob Alston said:
Any idea when the new release may be available?

According to the article "With the Access 12 release still months
away". And that's presumably the beta.
Also when might we find out what is in it?

I'm under NDA.

Tony
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Tony Toews

Bob Alston said:
Any idea when the new release may be available?

Also when might we find out what is in it?

Whoops, sorry. I misread your question. The feature list will
likely be available when it's out in beta. There may be some more
tantalizing hints in the press in the meantime.

Tony
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Tony Toews

George Nicholson said:
You mean Santa might be especially good to us this year? :)

I can't confirm or deny either the "good" or the "this year" part. <smile>

But the quote "There's a large team working on it, much larger than
there has been for quite a number a versions" should indicate that they're doing
some serious work on it.

Tony
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David W. Fenton

I'm under NDA.

Does that prohibit you from confirming that the changes will excite
Access developers like me who don't give a rat's ass about
integration with SQL Server, who really only create Access apps
running on top of Jet?
 
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david epsom dot com dot au

But this bit makes me shudder:
we're finally getting around to some key features


I don't want key features. I want them to fix broken bits.

(david)
 
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Trevor Best

David said:
Does that prohibit you from confirming that the changes will excite
Access developers like me who don't give a rat's ass about
integration with SQL Server, who really only create Access apps
running on top of Jet?

No because you're still 3 versions behind the current so the new one
doesn't concern you :)
 
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Trevor Best

Tony said:
But the quote "There's a large team working on it, much larger than
there has been for quite a number a versions" should indicate that they're doing
some serious work on it.

Or many more bugs :)

BTW, your sig sep's missing a space at the end.
 
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Tony Toews

Trevor Best said:
Or many more bugs :)

They have as many testers as they do developers. But I'm sure there will also be a
beta as they have done in past versions to help find the bugs.
BTW, your sig sep's missing a space at the end.

Thanks, you're the first person to mention that and I haven't changed that sig in
years.

Tony
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Tony Toews

David W. Fenton said:
Does that prohibit you from confirming that the changes will excite
Access developers like me who don't give a rat's ass about
integration with SQL Server, who really only create Access apps
running on top of Jet?

One person's excitement can be boring to someone else.

No code phrases or innuendo or sideways comments intended.

Tony

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David W. Fenton

No because you're still 3 versions behind the current so the new
one doesn't concern you :)

I do work with Access 2003. Or, more specifically, I do work in
Access 2000 that runs in Access 2003.

I see no advances in A2K, A2K2 or A2K3 that are signicant in
comparison to A97 for the kinds of apps I create.

It's what I've said repeatedly since the release of A2K: the
priorities in Access development since then have all been oriented
towards client/server applications and integration with SQL Server.
Virtually nothing of significance has been added into Access that
makes like small-scale Jet application development more productive
or more flexible.
 
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David W. Fenton

One person's excitement can be boring to someone else.

No code phrases or innuendo or sideways comments intended.

Well, I think you understand my point of view. All of the major new
features in A2K and everything that's come since have been oriented
towards client/server development and integration with SQL Server. I
don't mean to downplay the importance of these changes, but they
don't have anything to do with the kind of development my clients
need done for them.

And many of the changes made in A2K were developer-hostile, in my
opinion.

I'm only asking of the orientation of the new version is finally
going to rectify the imbalance, and that the needs of developers of
Jet apps for small clients will no longer be completely ignored.
 
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rkc

David W. Fenton wrote:

I'm only asking of the orientation of the new version is finally
going to rectify the imbalance, and that the needs of developers of
Jet apps for small clients will no longer be completely ignored.

So you're not excited about the integration with Sharepoint then.
 
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Larry Daugherty

Hi David,

I enthusiastically agree with most of what you write, specifically
that there have been very few meaningful improvements, down where the
rubber meets the road, since A97.

They've added a lot of "hubba-hubba" stuff to the user interface of
Access and they're definitely moving it toward playing in a more
distributed environment.

I've had the niggling suspicion that clients would want more of the
connections to the wider world but they're happy with some email
capabilities and hitting some web sites. The rest is hardcore A97
applications with some Automation thrown in.

My copies of A2k, A2k2, and A2003 don't get much work. I kind of
expect more of the same from the next release.
 
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Larry Linson

Tony Toews said:
"Office 12 is unofficially scheduled for 2006. "

Never trust an unannounced schedule. At a minimum, mistrust any schedule,
announced or otherwise, unless it is in a contract which contains provision
for "liquidated damages for late delivery". <GRIN>

In a previous incarnation, I personally observe a major PC software suite's
announcement cancelled one (yes ONE) day before the planned official
announcement. (In the course of time, all, or almost all, the software
products that would have been included in that announcement were cancelled.)

Larry Linson
Microsoft Access MVP
 

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