J
Jack
Which part of the office is that file?
It runs as a service and it screws up my computer!
Jack
It runs as a service and it screws up my computer!
Jack
G
garfield-n-odie [MVP]
See http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=282599 "Frequently asked
questions about Ctfmon.exe" and
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=326526 "How to turn off the speech
recognition and handwriting recognition features in Office XP".
ctfmon.exe serves the same function in Office 2003. See
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=823586 "How to turn off the speech
recognition and the handwriting recognition features in Office 2003".
questions about Ctfmon.exe" and
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=326526 "How to turn off the speech
recognition and handwriting recognition features in Office XP".
ctfmon.exe serves the same function in Office 2003. See
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=823586 "How to turn off the speech
recognition and the handwriting recognition features in Office 2003".
J
Jack
Thank you, but I do not have Office XP
I use Office 2007
Why MS insists of using that file, which causes so many problems on user
computers???
The most common problem is drastic slow down of any operation performed in
Windows (outside the Office).
In fact Office is not even running! Why that service is on?
That KB articles do not explain much, and nothing about Office 2007.
BTW, I have brand new Windows XP and Office 2007 just installed yesterday!
Jack
I use Office 2007
Why MS insists of using that file, which causes so many problems on user
computers???
The most common problem is drastic slow down of any operation performed in
Windows (outside the Office).
In fact Office is not even running! Why that service is on?
That KB articles do not explain much, and nothing about Office 2007.
BTW, I have brand new Windows XP and Office 2007 just installed yesterday!
Jack
G
garfield-n-odie [MVP]
You said nothing about Office 2007 in your original question. You said
"my computer" in your original question, and you said nothing about
"user computers". Why you attributes of so many unidentified problems
to ctfmon.exe? Why you insists of asking stupid questions that waste
everyone's time? Since you *now* appear to be asking about a work
computer that might be on a network, you should talk to your company's
computer support staff.
"my computer" in your original question, and you said nothing about
"user computers". Why you attributes of so many unidentified problems
to ctfmon.exe? Why you insists of asking stupid questions that waste
everyone's time? Since you *now* appear to be asking about a work
computer that might be on a network, you should talk to your company's
computer support staff.
S
Sloan Crayton [MSFT]
Office 2007 no longer installs this component as it is provided by Windows.
Earlier versions of Office did install it as Office installation was
supported on versions of Windows that did not provide that file. Since
Office 2007 requires Windows XP SP2, Windows 2003 SP1 or Windows Vista (all
of these provide ctfmon.exe), it no longer installs that file. Depending
on which features are installed, CTFMON.EXE may be used by Office 2007, but
it does not install the file.
Since it is provided by Windows, I do not believe there is a way to remove
it.
Sloan Crayton
Microsoft
--------------------
| From: "Jack" <replyto@it>
| References: <[email protected]>
<[email protected]>
| Subject: Re: How to get rid off ctfmon.exe service?
| Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 15:53:52 -0500
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| Thank you, but I do not have Office XP
| I use Office 2007
| Why MS insists of using that file, which causes so many problems on user
| computers???
| The most common problem is drastic slow down of any operation performed
in
| Windows (outside the Office).
| In fact Office is not even running! Why that service is on?
| That KB articles do not explain much, and nothing about Office 2007.
| BTW, I have brand new Windows XP and Office 2007 just installed yesterday!
| Jack
|
in
| message | > See http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=282599 "Frequently asked
questions
| > about Ctfmon.exe" and http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=326526 "How to
| > turn off the speech recognition and handwriting recognition features in
| > Office XP".
| >
| > ctfmon.exe serves the same function in Office 2003. See
| > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=823586 "How to turn off the speech
| > recognition and the handwriting recognition features in Office 2003".
| >
| > Jack wrote:
| >
| >> Which part of the office is that file?
| >> It runs as a service and it screws up my computer!
| >> Jack
| >
|
|
|
Earlier versions of Office did install it as Office installation was
supported on versions of Windows that did not provide that file. Since
Office 2007 requires Windows XP SP2, Windows 2003 SP1 or Windows Vista (all
of these provide ctfmon.exe), it no longer installs that file. Depending
on which features are installed, CTFMON.EXE may be used by Office 2007, but
it does not install the file.
Since it is provided by Windows, I do not believe there is a way to remove
it.
Sloan Crayton
Microsoft
--------------------
| From: "Jack" <replyto@it>
| References: <[email protected]>
<[email protected]>
| Subject: Re: How to get rid off ctfmon.exe service?
| Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 15:53:52 -0500
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|
| Thank you, but I do not have Office XP
| I use Office 2007
| Why MS insists of using that file, which causes so many problems on user
| computers???
| The most common problem is drastic slow down of any operation performed
in
| Windows (outside the Office).
| In fact Office is not even running! Why that service is on?
| That KB articles do not explain much, and nothing about Office 2007.
| BTW, I have brand new Windows XP and Office 2007 just installed yesterday!
| Jack
|
in
| message | > See http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=282599 "Frequently asked
questions
| > about Ctfmon.exe" and http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=326526 "How to
| > turn off the speech recognition and handwriting recognition features in
| > Office XP".
| >
| > ctfmon.exe serves the same function in Office 2003. See
| > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=823586 "How to turn off the speech
| > recognition and the handwriting recognition features in Office 2003".
| >
| > Jack wrote:
| >
| >> Which part of the office is that file?
| >> It runs as a service and it screws up my computer!
| >> Jack
| >
|
|
|
J
Jack
Your assumptions are ALL wrong!!!
I am talking about my home computer with Office 2007 installed.
I am software developer and I have noticed very significant delay in
executing some API's.
I have traced that problem to ctfmon.exe service.
When I stop that service the problem is gone.
If you are able to think logically you would attribute theat problem to that
file (service).
I am tired of stopping that service manually every day!!!
and I am looking for the way to shut down permanently.
However, this page:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/282599
is not help.
I do not see Alternative User Input in Office 2007.
There must be some other way.
Jack
I am talking about my home computer with Office 2007 installed.
I am software developer and I have noticed very significant delay in
executing some API's.
I have traced that problem to ctfmon.exe service.
When I stop that service the problem is gone.
If you are able to think logically you would attribute theat problem to that
file (service).
I am tired of stopping that service manually every day!!!
and I am looking for the way to shut down permanently.
However, this page:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/282599
is not help.
I do not see Alternative User Input in Office 2007.
There must be some other way.
Jack
J
Jack
Thank you for your explanation.
That explans why I could not follow the removal instruction shown in:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/282599
Since my original post I have reinstalled my Windows from the scratch.
I have Windows XP PRO SP2 and Office 2007 installed.
After the fresh installation I have exactly the same problem.
Any Windows operation: opening folder, clicking on some pop up menu etc has
delay of 2-3 seconds!!!
In Task Manager I stop ctfmon.exe service and delay is gone.
It seems like there is a big problem, which Microsoft does not acknowledge.
I do not think that it is my computer hardware problem.
Jack
That explans why I could not follow the removal instruction shown in:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/282599
Since my original post I have reinstalled my Windows from the scratch.
I have Windows XP PRO SP2 and Office 2007 installed.
After the fresh installation I have exactly the same problem.
Any Windows operation: opening folder, clicking on some pop up menu etc has
delay of 2-3 seconds!!!
In Task Manager I stop ctfmon.exe service and delay is gone.
It seems like there is a big problem, which Microsoft does not acknowledge.
I do not think that it is my computer hardware problem.
Jack
"Sloan Crayton [MSFT]" said:
A
Alias
Jack said:
Have you tried unticking it in MSCONFIG?
Alias
B
Bob Buckland ?:-\)
Hi Jack,
There are at least two CTFMON's out there. One is the legitimate one from Microsoft, another is a key logger trojan program,
sometimes found outside of the \Windows\System32. If you're running an updated antivirus or privacy software check the 'bad one'
is likely not a problem.
Removing the Microsoft CTFMon.exe utility can also remove some functionallity in Windows that you may be using, so it may be a
tradeoff of choices.
Microsoft's CTFMON is used to manage keyboards/languages for Windows Text Services and the Language Bar that appears in the System
Tray. (BTW, check in Add/Remove programs to see if there are any 2002, 2003 (Office XP) choices still there, including viewers.
Do you have multiple keyboards/languages enabled in Windows or more than one language enabled in Office 2007
Start=>Run=>Microsoft Office=>Microsoft Office Tools
If not, then you may be able to use these steps (note that these are not steps in the MS Knowledge Base/Microsoft suggested
approach)
Go to
Control Panel=>Regional and Language Settings=>Languages=>[Details]
to go to Text Services
and in the Advanced Tab of Text Services turn off 'Compatibility Configuration' and turn on the 'Turn off advance text services' and
in the 'Settings tab' turn off the 'Language Bar' support choices.
You may then be returned to the Regional and Language Options dialog where you can bypass removing removing the Supplemental
Language support check marks for now, (if you uncheck those settings it will uninstall a number of files including Fonts). If CTFMon
comes back after the steps below you may need to return and uncheck these settings as well, but leave them for now.
Next use
Start=>Run=>MSConfig
to remove CTFMOn from the startup tab, then restart the PC.
When you restart the PC and go back through the control panel to get to Text Services again the 'Language Bar' choice should be
greyed out. If you have multiple keyboards installed try using Keyboard Settings to assign keyboard shortcuts to let you switch
keyboards without using the Language Bar.
FWIW, Garfield-n-Oldie was correct when he pointed you to the FAQ on CTFMON. Your initial question mentioned no version of Office
and asked what part of Office put it on the computer. Prior to Office 2007 it was the Alternative Input choices. The change for
Office 2007 is that several services introduced/managed by Office to help make it run in older versions of Windows, was to return
the ownership back to the Windows folks with Office 2007 as both Windows XP and Windows Vista are supposed to support the features.
The Windows teams have been, in some cases responsive to that need, in others not so much The function of CTFMON as explained in
the originally linked article and Steps 2 and 3 there go a bit beyond the removal of just from Office.
Also, FWIW, you mentioned that you are a software dev. If this is software you provide to corporate clients, you may not want to
count on your clients removing the functionallity of CTFMON from their computers, especially, in this globally oriented world, it's
not uncommon to use multiple language choices. And since it is likely to be there may want to run your tests and performance
metrics with it in place.
Note that it's possible that the delay is from CTFMON interacting with something else on the PC, whether an input device or
multilanguage feature of some type, even though you may not be using them. On my computers haven't noticed a change in the Office
apps, for example, with it on or off, but others have, so it could be an app, utility or driver set that's in play. For me, the
delay comes from having Windows Media Player services running all the time
=============
Thank you for your explanation.
That explans why I could not follow the removal instruction shown in:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/282599
Since my original post I have reinstalled my Windows from the scratch.
I have Windows XP PRO SP2 and Office 2007 installed.
After the fresh installation I have exactly the same problem.
Any Windows operation: opening folder, clicking on some pop up menu etc has
delay of 2-3 seconds!!!
In Task Manager I stop ctfmon.exe service and delay is gone.
It seems like there is a big problem, which Microsoft does not acknowledge.
I do not think that it is my computer hardware problem.
Jack >>
--
Bob Buckland ?
MS Office System Products MVP
*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*
There are at least two CTFMON's out there. One is the legitimate one from Microsoft, another is a key logger trojan program,
sometimes found outside of the \Windows\System32. If you're running an updated antivirus or privacy software check the 'bad one'
is likely not a problem.
Removing the Microsoft CTFMon.exe utility can also remove some functionallity in Windows that you may be using, so it may be a
tradeoff of choices.
Microsoft's CTFMON is used to manage keyboards/languages for Windows Text Services and the Language Bar that appears in the System
Tray. (BTW, check in Add/Remove programs to see if there are any 2002, 2003 (Office XP) choices still there, including viewers.
Do you have multiple keyboards/languages enabled in Windows or more than one language enabled in Office 2007
Start=>Run=>Microsoft Office=>Microsoft Office Tools
If not, then you may be able to use these steps (note that these are not steps in the MS Knowledge Base/Microsoft suggested
approach)
Go to
Control Panel=>Regional and Language Settings=>Languages=>[Details]
to go to Text Services
and in the Advanced Tab of Text Services turn off 'Compatibility Configuration' and turn on the 'Turn off advance text services' and
in the 'Settings tab' turn off the 'Language Bar' support choices.
You may then be returned to the Regional and Language Options dialog where you can bypass removing removing the Supplemental
Language support check marks for now, (if you uncheck those settings it will uninstall a number of files including Fonts). If CTFMon
comes back after the steps below you may need to return and uncheck these settings as well, but leave them for now.
Next use
Start=>Run=>MSConfig
to remove CTFMOn from the startup tab, then restart the PC.
When you restart the PC and go back through the control panel to get to Text Services again the 'Language Bar' choice should be
greyed out. If you have multiple keyboards installed try using Keyboard Settings to assign keyboard shortcuts to let you switch
keyboards without using the Language Bar.
FWIW, Garfield-n-Oldie was correct when he pointed you to the FAQ on CTFMON. Your initial question mentioned no version of Office
and asked what part of Office put it on the computer.
Prior to Office 2007 it was the Alternative Input choices. The change forOffice 2007 is that several services introduced/managed by Office to help make it run in older versions of Windows, was to return
the ownership back to the Windows folks with Office 2007 as both Windows XP and Windows Vista are supposed to support the features.
The Windows teams have been, in some cases responsive to that need, in others not so much
The function of CTFMON as explained inthe originally linked article and Steps 2 and 3 there go a bit beyond the removal of just from Office.
Also, FWIW, you mentioned that you are a software dev. If this is software you provide to corporate clients, you may not want to
count on your clients removing the functionallity of CTFMON from their computers, especially, in this globally oriented world, it's
not uncommon to use multiple language choices. And since it is likely to be there may want to run your tests and performance
metrics with it in place.
Note that it's possible that the delay is from CTFMON interacting with something else on the PC, whether an input device or
multilanguage feature of some type, even though you may not be using them. On my computers haven't noticed a change in the Office
apps, for example, with it on or off, but others have, so it could be an app, utility or driver set that's in play. For me, the
delay comes from having Windows Media Player services running all the time
=============
Thank you for your explanation.
That explans why I could not follow the removal instruction shown in:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/282599
Since my original post I have reinstalled my Windows from the scratch.
I have Windows XP PRO SP2 and Office 2007 installed.
After the fresh installation I have exactly the same problem.
Any Windows operation: opening folder, clicking on some pop up menu etc has
delay of 2-3 seconds!!!
In Task Manager I stop ctfmon.exe service and delay is gone.
It seems like there is a big problem, which Microsoft does not acknowledge.
I do not think that it is my computer hardware problem.
Jack >>
--
Bob Buckland ?
MS Office System Products MVP
*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*
J
Jack
Thank you for your replies.
I am more and more worrying about that file.
It is undestructable. I have renamed it to something else, restarted
computer and I have again ctfmon.exe file in \System32 folder (and the
renamed file is there too of course).
I have monitored ctfmon.exe service and I have found out that when I shut
the service down, it starts automatically each time I start IE new window,
or even when I browse through my Inbox messages in Outlook Express.
I feel like a big brother is watching over my shoulder, checking all I do in
my computer!!!!
There is also one thing more to it. In Windows registry I've found that file
is placed in
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
and in
HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-21-1960408961-113007714-725345543-1003\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
After removing that key from registry and after restarting Windows that key
is back there!!!!
I have tried all different anti virus and anti spyware software and it
detects nothing wrong!
If it is a legitimate Windows OS file why it is placed to run on startup
that way? Something is not right here.
Any thoughts on that?
Jack
I am more and more worrying about that file.
It is undestructable. I have renamed it to something else, restarted
computer and I have again ctfmon.exe file in \System32 folder (and the
renamed file is there too of course).
I have monitored ctfmon.exe service and I have found out that when I shut
the service down, it starts automatically each time I start IE new window,
or even when I browse through my Inbox messages in Outlook Express.
I feel like a big brother is watching over my shoulder, checking all I do in
my computer!!!!
There is also one thing more to it. In Windows registry I've found that file
is placed in
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
and in
HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-21-1960408961-113007714-725345543-1003\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
After removing that key from registry and after restarting Windows that key
is back there!!!!
I have tried all different anti virus and anti spyware software and it
detects nothing wrong!
If it is a legitimate Windows OS file why it is placed to run on startup
that way? Something is not right here.
Any thoughts on that?
Jack
Jack said:
D
DL
D
Doug W.
Leave the damned thing alone. It IS legitimate. I have forgotten
as to how it came about BUT it was discussed here ad nauseum for
weeks about a year and a half ago. I DON'T worry about it
anymore. Check out the Microsoft databases for more info.
-
Doug W.
-
as to how it came about BUT it was discussed here ad nauseum for
weeks about a year and a half ago. I DON'T worry about it
anymore. Check out the Microsoft databases for more info.
-
Doug W.
-
Jack said:
T
Tom [Pepper] Willett
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/282599
: Leave the damned thing alone. It IS legitimate. I have forgotten
: as to how it came about BUT it was discussed here ad nauseum for
: weeks about a year and a half ago. I DON'T worry about it
: anymore. Check out the Microsoft databases for more info.
: -
: Doug W.
: -
:
: : > Thank you for your replies.
: > I am more and more worrying about that file.
: > It is undestructable. I have renamed it to something else,
: > restarted computer and I have again ctfmon.exe file in
: > \System32 folder (and the renamed file is there too of
: > course).
: > I have monitored ctfmon.exe service and I have found out that
: > when I shut the service down, it starts automatically each
: > time I start IE new window, or even when I browse through my
: > Inbox messages in Outlook Express.
: > I feel like a big brother is watching over my shoulder,
: > checking all I do in my computer!!!!
: >
: > There is also one thing more to it. In Windows registry I've
: > found that file is placed in
: >
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
: > and in
: >
HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-21-1960408961-113007714-725345543-1003\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
: > After removing that key from registry and after restarting
: > Windows that key is back there!!!!
: > I have tried all different anti virus and anti spyware
: > software and it detects nothing wrong!
: >
: > If it is a legitimate Windows OS file why it is placed to run
: > on startup that way? Something is not right here.
: > Any thoughts on that?
: > Jack
: >
: > : >> Thank you for your explanation.
: >> That explans why I could not follow the removal instruction
: >> shown in:
: >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/282599
: >> Since my original post I have reinstalled my Windows from the
: >> scratch.
: >> I have Windows XP PRO SP2 and Office 2007 installed.
: >> After the fresh installation I have exactly the same problem.
: >> Any Windows operation: opening folder, clicking on some pop
: >> up menu etc has delay of 2-3 seconds!!!
: >> In Task Manager I stop ctfmon.exe service and delay is gone.
: >> It seems like there is a big problem, which Microsoft does
: >> not acknowledge.
: >> I do not think that it is my computer hardware problem.
: >> Jack
: >>
: >> in message : >>> Office 2007 no longer installs this component as it is
: >>> provided by Windows.
: >>> Earlier versions of Office did install it as Office
: >>> installation was
: >>> supported on versions of Windows that did not provide that
: >>> file. Since
: >>> Office 2007 requires Windows XP SP2, Windows 2003 SP1 or
: >>> Windows Vista (all
: >>> of these provide ctfmon.exe), it no longer installs that
: >>> file. Depending
: >>> on which features are installed, CTFMON.EXE may be used by
: >>> Office 2007, but
: >>> it does not install the file.
: >>>
: >>> Since it is provided by Windows, I do not believe there is a
: >>> way to remove
: >>> it.
: >>>
: >>> Sloan Crayton
: >>> Microsoft
: >>>
: >>> --------------------
: >>> | From: "Jack" <replyto@it>
: >>> | References: <[email protected]>
: >>> <[email protected]>
: >>> | Subject: Re: How to get rid off ctfmon.exe service?
: >>> | Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 15:53:52 -0500
: >>> | Lines: 30
: >>> | X-Priority: 3
: >>> | X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
: >>> | X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138
: >>> | X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198
: >>> | X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Response
: >>> | Message-ID: <[email protected]>
: >>> | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.office.setup
: >>> | NNTP-Posting-Host: ip-142.56.99.216.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net
: >>> 216.99.56.142
: >>> | Path:
: >>> TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl
: >>> | Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl
: >>> microsoft.public.office.setup:9877
: >>> | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.office.setup
: >>> |
: >>> | Thank you, but I do not have Office XP
: >>> | I use Office 2007
: >>> | Why MS insists of using that file, which causes so many
: >>> problems on user
: >>> | computers???
: >>> | The most common problem is drastic slow down of any
: >>> operation performed
: >>> in
: >>> | Windows (outside the Office).
: >>> | In fact Office is not even running! Why that service is
: >>> on?
: >>> | That KB articles do not explain much, and nothing about
: >>> Office 2007.
: >>> | BTW, I have brand new Windows XP and Office 2007 just
: >>> installed yesterday!
: >>> | Jack
: >>> |
: >>> | "garfield-n-odie [MVP]"
: >>> in
: >>> | message : >>> | > See http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=282599
: >>> "Frequently asked
: >>> questions
: >>> | > about Ctfmon.exe" and
: >>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=326526 "How to
: >>> | > turn off the speech recognition and handwriting
: >>> recognition features in
: >>> | > Office XP".
: >>> | >
: >>> | > ctfmon.exe serves the same function in Office 2003. See
: >>> | > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=823586 "How to turn
: >>> off the speech
: >>> | > recognition and the handwriting recognition features in
: >>> Office 2003".
: >>> | >
: >>> | > Jack wrote:
: >>> | >
: >>> | >> Which part of the office is that file?
: >>> | >> It runs as a service and it screws up my computer!
: >>> | >> Jack
: >>> | >
: >>> |
: >>> |
: >>> |
: >>>
: >>
: >>
: >
: >
:
: Leave the damned thing alone. It IS legitimate. I have forgotten
: as to how it came about BUT it was discussed here ad nauseum for
: weeks about a year and a half ago. I DON'T worry about it
: anymore. Check out the Microsoft databases for more info.
: -
: Doug W.
: -
:
: : > Thank you for your replies.
: > I am more and more worrying about that file.
: > It is undestructable. I have renamed it to something else,
: > restarted computer and I have again ctfmon.exe file in
: > \System32 folder (and the renamed file is there too of
: > course).
: > I have monitored ctfmon.exe service and I have found out that
: > when I shut the service down, it starts automatically each
: > time I start IE new window, or even when I browse through my
: > Inbox messages in Outlook Express.
: > I feel like a big brother is watching over my shoulder,
: > checking all I do in my computer!!!!
: >
: > There is also one thing more to it. In Windows registry I've
: > found that file is placed in
: >
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
: > and in
: >
HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-21-1960408961-113007714-725345543-1003\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
: > After removing that key from registry and after restarting
: > Windows that key is back there!!!!
: > I have tried all different anti virus and anti spyware
: > software and it detects nothing wrong!
: >
: > If it is a legitimate Windows OS file why it is placed to run
: > on startup that way? Something is not right here.
: > Any thoughts on that?
: > Jack
: >
: > : >> Thank you for your explanation.
: >> That explans why I could not follow the removal instruction
: >> shown in:
: >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/282599
: >> Since my original post I have reinstalled my Windows from the
: >> scratch.
: >> I have Windows XP PRO SP2 and Office 2007 installed.
: >> After the fresh installation I have exactly the same problem.
: >> Any Windows operation: opening folder, clicking on some pop
: >> up menu etc has delay of 2-3 seconds!!!
: >> In Task Manager I stop ctfmon.exe service and delay is gone.
: >> It seems like there is a big problem, which Microsoft does
: >> not acknowledge.
: >> I do not think that it is my computer hardware problem.
: >> Jack
: >>
: >> in message : >>> Office 2007 no longer installs this component as it is
: >>> provided by Windows.
: >>> Earlier versions of Office did install it as Office
: >>> installation was
: >>> supported on versions of Windows that did not provide that
: >>> file. Since
: >>> Office 2007 requires Windows XP SP2, Windows 2003 SP1 or
: >>> Windows Vista (all
: >>> of these provide ctfmon.exe), it no longer installs that
: >>> file. Depending
: >>> on which features are installed, CTFMON.EXE may be used by
: >>> Office 2007, but
: >>> it does not install the file.
: >>>
: >>> Since it is provided by Windows, I do not believe there is a
: >>> way to remove
: >>> it.
: >>>
: >>> Sloan Crayton
: >>> Microsoft
: >>>
: >>> --------------------
: >>> | From: "Jack" <replyto@it>
: >>> | References: <[email protected]>
: >>> <[email protected]>
: >>> | Subject: Re: How to get rid off ctfmon.exe service?
: >>> | Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 15:53:52 -0500
: >>> | Lines: 30
: >>> | X-Priority: 3
: >>> | X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
: >>> | X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138
: >>> | X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198
: >>> | X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Response
: >>> | Message-ID: <[email protected]>
: >>> | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.office.setup
: >>> | NNTP-Posting-Host: ip-142.56.99.216.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net
: >>> 216.99.56.142
: >>> | Path:
: >>> TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl
: >>> | Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl
: >>> microsoft.public.office.setup:9877
: >>> | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.office.setup
: >>> |
: >>> | Thank you, but I do not have Office XP
: >>> | I use Office 2007
: >>> | Why MS insists of using that file, which causes so many
: >>> problems on user
: >>> | computers???
: >>> | The most common problem is drastic slow down of any
: >>> operation performed
: >>> in
: >>> | Windows (outside the Office).
: >>> | In fact Office is not even running! Why that service is
: >>> on?
: >>> | That KB articles do not explain much, and nothing about
: >>> Office 2007.
: >>> | BTW, I have brand new Windows XP and Office 2007 just
: >>> installed yesterday!
: >>> | Jack
: >>> |
: >>> | "garfield-n-odie [MVP]"
: >>> in
: >>> | message : >>> | > See http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=282599
: >>> "Frequently asked
: >>> questions
: >>> | > about Ctfmon.exe" and
: >>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=326526 "How to
: >>> | > turn off the speech recognition and handwriting
: >>> recognition features in
: >>> | > Office XP".
: >>> | >
: >>> | > ctfmon.exe serves the same function in Office 2003. See
: >>> | > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=823586 "How to turn
: >>> off the speech
: >>> | > recognition and the handwriting recognition features in
: >>> Office 2003".
: >>> | >
: >>> | > Jack wrote:
: >>> | >
: >>> | >> Which part of the office is that file?
: >>> | >> It runs as a service and it screws up my computer!
: >>> | >> Jack
: >>> | >
: >>> |
: >>> |
: >>> |
: >>>
: >>
: >>
: >
: >
:
J
Jack
You were not reading that thread properly. Thank you.
1.
That MSDN article is not for me. I do not use Office XP but Office 2007.
2.
That thing is causing 3-5 seconds delay on each mouse click I do in Windows.
Please at least do one thing for me.
If you are not afraid of opening Windows registry, please check if you have
the same both entries.
That will help.
Jack
1.
That MSDN article is not for me. I do not use Office XP but Office 2007.
2.
That thing is causing 3-5 seconds delay on each mouse click I do in Windows.
Please at least do one thing for me.
If you are not afraid of opening Windows registry, please check if you have
the same both entries.
That will help.
Jack
Jack said:
S
Script
This can be caused by the Language Bar, regardless of Office *version*, or NO
Office products at all.
It is an XP problem, period. (for some)
Read/try these pages:
1)
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/313176/EN-US/
2)
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/what-is-ctfmonexe-and-why-is-it-running/
[READ the Step about Office 2003; it has a note about 2007. At step 3, you
can "delete" the entry from the Registry at the location specified in
msconfig, rather than just "unchecking" in msconfig.]
-hth-
Office products at all.
It is an XP problem, period. (for some)
Read/try these pages:
1)
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/313176/EN-US/
2)
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/what-is-ctfmonexe-and-why-is-it-running/
[READ the Step about Office 2003; it has a note about 2007. At step 3, you
can "delete" the entry from the Registry at the location specified in
msconfig, rather than just "unchecking" in msconfig.]
-hth-
D
DL
Yes I am
Jack said:
J
Jack
If you did you would know I have already passed that step.
No need to repeat, because your reply does not bring anything new to the
subject.
Jack
No need to repeat, because your reply does not bring anything new to the
subject.
Jack
B
Bob Buckland ?:-\)
Jack,
In my reply dated 01/30/08 as a followup to Sloan's, there were steps to turn it off that do work, that explained a bit more about
what can cause it to be restarted (based on services and features of Windows you have invoked) and that asked you for additional
information includind specifics on where you are seeing delays.
There hasn't been a response to you that I've seen to trying those steps or to the questions asked.
An additional reply on 02/01 by 'Script' points to a web page that basically covers the same steps with step by step pictures.
===========
Thank you for your replies.
I am more and more worrying about that file.
It is undestructable. I have renamed it to something else, restarted
computer and I have again ctfmon.exe file in \System32 folder (and the
renamed file is there too of course).
I have monitored ctfmon.exe service and I have found out that when I shut
the service down, it starts automatically each time I start IE new window,
or even when I browse through my Inbox messages in Outlook Express.
I feel like a big brother is watching over my shoulder, checking all I do in
my computer!!!!
There is also one thing more to it. In Windows registry I've found that file
is placed in
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
and in
HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-21-1960408961-113007714-725345543-1003\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
After removing that key from registry and after restarting Windows that key
is back there!!!!
I have tried all different anti virus and anti spyware software and it
detects nothing wrong!
If it is a legitimate Windows OS file why it is placed to run on startup
that way? Something is not right here.
Any thoughts on that?
Jack >>
--
Bob Buckland ?
MS Office System Products MVP
*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*
In my reply dated 01/30/08 as a followup to Sloan's, there were steps to turn it off that do work, that explained a bit more about
what can cause it to be restarted (based on services and features of Windows you have invoked) and that asked you for additional
information includind specifics on where you are seeing delays.
There hasn't been a response to you that I've seen to trying those steps or to the questions asked.
An additional reply on 02/01 by 'Script' points to a web page that basically covers the same steps with step by step pictures.
===========
Thank you for your replies.
I am more and more worrying about that file.
It is undestructable. I have renamed it to something else, restarted
computer and I have again ctfmon.exe file in \System32 folder (and the
renamed file is there too of course).
I have monitored ctfmon.exe service and I have found out that when I shut
the service down, it starts automatically each time I start IE new window,
or even when I browse through my Inbox messages in Outlook Express.
I feel like a big brother is watching over my shoulder, checking all I do in
my computer!!!!
There is also one thing more to it. In Windows registry I've found that file
is placed in
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
and in
HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-21-1960408961-113007714-725345543-1003\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
After removing that key from registry and after restarting Windows that key
is back there!!!!
I have tried all different anti virus and anti spyware software and it
detects nothing wrong!
If it is a legitimate Windows OS file why it is placed to run on startup
that way? Something is not right here.
Any thoughts on that?
Jack >>
--
Bob Buckland ?
MS Office System Products MVP
*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*
J
John Corliss
So you're saying that you've read this page and done the steps?
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/282599
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http://support.microsoft.com/kb/282599
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J
John Corliss
I managed to get rid of the thing after it got installed on my computer
when I upgraded to IE7. I'm running XP Home SP2. Just did a search of my
entire drive and there IS no ctrmon.exe, so it can be done. However,
"Removing the Ctfmon.exe might cause problematic behavior in your Office
XP programs, so removing it is not recommended."
Thus, disabling it is a better idea if you're running MS Office XP, but
you're not so it shouldn't hurt anything.
First disable it and do a search for all instances of the file. Delete
all three of them.
Also, maybe you can find something of use here:
http://tinyurl.com/yq6p7a
(a Google search using "get rid of ctfmon.exe" (no quotes) as the search
terms.
when I upgraded to IE7. I'm running XP Home SP2. Just did a search of my
entire drive and there IS no ctrmon.exe, so it can be done. However,
"Removing the Ctfmon.exe might cause problematic behavior in your Office
XP programs, so removing it is not recommended."
Thus, disabling it is a better idea if you're running MS Office XP, but
you're not so it shouldn't hurt anything.
First disable it and do a search for all instances of the file. Delete
all three of them.
Also, maybe you can find something of use here:
http://tinyurl.com/yq6p7a
(a Google search using "get rid of ctfmon.exe" (no quotes) as the search
terms.