I hate the ribbon -- bring the menus back!

G

Gordon

Philippe C. said:
Is it possible to see a ribbon, not by clicking, but by hovering over the
tabs ?


Not as far as I know - however, when you click back into the document the
ribbon automatically minimises again...
 
D

drummo2a

Third parties are already solving the problem that Microsoft should never
have created in the first place. I hope the next service pack solves the
problem so I don't have to buy a $30 fix to my brand new program.



JoAnn Paules said:
I wish that were true but it's not going to happen. The basic problem is
that there ware too many new and existing commands to fit within the "old"
menu styles.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



John Jay Smith said:
The ribbon will not change, nor is there a "classic" view option.

It will change with the first service pack of Office2007 after they
realize how stupid they were for doing this.



JoAnn Paules said:
The ribbon will not change, nor is there a "classic" view option.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



I am a first-time Office 2007 user, and as such, I hate some of the
changes
I'm seeing. Perhaps that's a normal first reaction to Office 2007, and
perhaps I'll grow to prefer it. But for now, it appears I'm forced to
waste
valuable screen real estate staring at the outrageous ribbon bar that
often
doesn't even have the functionality that I'm looking for. At least with
Office 2003 with its regular menus I could click on one entry and hover
my
mouse around the others until I find what I'm looking for. And of course
I
could customize the toolbars to my liking, maximizing my available
screen
real estate. If I can do with the the ribbon, then it just isn't
obvious.

-- Keith

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D

drummo2a

Please fix the interface. I had to spend 10 minutes just to figure out how
to save my first file. You wasted your money on the focus groups.
 
G

Gordon

drummo2a said:
Please fix the interface. I had to spend 10 minutes just to figure out
how
to save my first file.

Then I suggest you take your computer back to where you bought it and swap
it for a gameboy.
 
B

Bill Davy

Gordon said:
Then I suggest you take your computer back to where you bought it and swap
it for a gameboy.


I don't know. I was very used to seeing the word File in the top left. Why
change it for some messy blob of coloured squares? Language is a damned
fine invention and does not need un-inventing. Likewise, why replace the
word Help with a small question mark in a circle? Too many pointless
changes.

And why does printing sheets of labels for Xmas have to be re-learnt every
year?! These things are meant to serve us, not the other way round.
 
G

Gordon

Bill Davy said:
I don't know. I was very used to seeing the word File in the top left.
Why change it for some messy blob of coloured squares?

The "Save" icon is on the QAT by default - there's no need to hunt for
anything! Certainly if it takes TEN MINUTES to recognise the international
sign for "Save" then the OP really is a bit thick.
 
M

Michael

Bill Davy said:
I don't know. I was very used to seeing the word File in the top left.
Why change it for some messy blob of coloured squares? Language is a
damned fine invention and does not need un-inventing. Likewise, why
replace the word Help with a small question mark in a circle? Too many
pointless changes.

And why does printing sheets of labels for Xmas have to be re-learnt every
year?! These things are meant to serve us, not the other way round.

My suggestion to you is to download the beta version of the next Office or
any new Microsoft product and give Microsoft feedback. Without feedback
they won't have any idea what the public's likes and dislikes are. Would
you buy a brand new make and model car without test driving or researching
it first? Didn't think so... Now stop your crybaby bitching and go back to
Office 98!
 
B

Bill Davy

Michael said:
My suggestion to you is to download the beta version of the next Office or
any new Microsoft product and give Microsoft feedback. Without feedback
they won't have any idea what the public's likes and dislikes are. Would
you buy a brand new make and model car without test driving or researching
it first? Didn't think so... Now stop your crybaby bitching and go back
to Office 98!
--


"Don't pick a fight with an old man.
If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you."


Now now. Do not descend to insulting someone who disagrees with you.

What is the "international sign" for save? Some use a picture of a little
floppy disk! Hey ho.

And yes, I do give feedback.

I just did.
 
G

Gordon

Bill Davy said:
What is the "international sign" for save? Some use a picture of a little
floppy disk! Hey ho.

Most do. And that's what is on the QAT by default.
 
M

Michael

Bill Davy said:
Now now. Do not descend to insulting someone who disagrees with you.

What is the "international sign" for save? Some use a picture of a little
floppy disk! Hey ho.

And yes, I do give feedback.

I just did.

But no one here works for Microsoft, and it's not a matter of disagreement.
It's common sense to not purchase something without researching it first.
 
P

pbcook456

I have been using MS Word since the DOS days, and had learned to trust MS to
improve Word with each new release. Many entries by MVPs in this group chide
us for not trying it first or to "not buy it." None of us expected MS to
destroy a great program. I am a power user that has written many macros for
Govt facilites and private industry and I can tell you that 2007 is
infuriating and counterproductive. I like the ability to make specialized
toolbars and to change the button images to reflect what the macros do. I
have tried this thing for several months and my contempt has grown with each
use. I will never trust MS again. I could get used to the ribbon but I will
never accept the lost of customizability (is that a word?)

I HATE OFFICE 2007!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
P

pbcook456

Your reply indicated the pettines of your mind and the naivete of office
productivity. This thing is aweful, and if your response is screw you, then
get off the forum.
 
G

Gordon

pbcook456 said:
Your reply indicated the pettines of your mind and the naivete of office
productivity. This thing is aweful, and if your response is screw you,
then
get off the forum.

Oh come on GROW UP.
 
G

Gordon

pbcook456 said:
Your reply indicated the pettines of your mind and the naivete of office
productivity. This thing is aweful, and if your response is screw you,
then
get off the forum.

If the OP spent TEN MINUTES looking for the "Save" icon which was staring
him in the face then my response is justified.
 
G

Gordon

pbcook456 said:
I have been using MS Word since the DOS days,

So? So have many others.
and had learned to trust MS to
improve Word with each new release.
ROTFLMAO!


Many entries by MVPs in this group chide
us for not trying it first or to "not buy it." None of us expected MS to
destroy a great program. I am a power user that has written many macros
for
Govt facilites and private industry and I can tell you that 2007 is
infuriating and counterproductive. I like the ability to make specialized
toolbars and to change the button images to reflect what the macros do. I
have tried this thing for several months and my contempt has grown with
each
use. I will never trust MS again. I could get used to the ribbon but I
will
never accept the lost of customizability (is that a word?)

I HATE OFFICE 2007!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Then don't use it. You don't HAVE to use Word you know - there are several
perfectly good alternatives.
 
P

pbcook456

Obviously, you do not work with word in a professional capacity. In the
office of any major corporation, you use what they have. And if you work with
one thing at work you don't want to use another at home. Companies are
avoiding 2007 like the plague, because they can't afford the learning curve
and loss of customizability. We use our own toolbars and macros and 2007 is
not able to do what 2003 can in this area. It has regressed instead of
progressed in this area. I have worked for the Dept of Energy, DoD,
ExxonMobil, Texas Attorney General's office and many other companies as a
proffesional technical writer and programmer, and would not recommend this
piece of crap to anyone I work for or with.
 
G

Gordon

pbcook456 said:
Obviously, you do not work with word in a professional capacity. In the
office of any major corporation, you use what they have. And if you work
with
one thing at work you don't want to use another at home. Companies are
avoiding 2007 like the plague, because they can't afford the learning
curve
and loss of customizability

Err no. Companies are avoiding Office 2007 because of COST.
One of the main reasons the ribbon was introduced is BECAUSE of corporate
needs.
Office 2003 is SO customisable that it has become a support NIGHTMARE. Ask
any Office support techie.
 

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