i need help with layers move places in frontpage

A

AJ Boyce

I have been creating a webpage for a school project and just realized that
the layers that i used on the pages move places depending on the screen
resolution... I really need some help, soon because it is due 3/24/05.

Please help me, AJ
 
J

Jens Peter Karlsen[FP MVP]

Place them in a containing layer.

Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.
 
A

AJ Boyce

how do i do a containing layer

Jens Peter Karlsen said:
Place them in a containing layer.

Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.
-----Original Message-----
From: AJ Boyce [mailto:AJ [email protected]]
Posted At: 22. marts 2005 00:23
Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
Conversation: i need help with layers move places in frontpage
Subject: i need help with layers move places in frontpage


I have been creating a webpage for a school project and just
realized that the layers that i used on the pages move places
depending on the screen resolution... I really need some
help, soon because it is due 3/24/05.

Please help me, AJ
 
M

Murray

Please ignore that suggestion as it will only cause you more problems.

Can you show me your page?

Are you REALLY sure it's the layers moving, and not some table content
underneath the layer?

--
Murray
============

AJ Boyce said:
how do i do a containing layer

Jens Peter Karlsen said:
Place them in a containing layer.

Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.
-----Original Message-----
From: AJ Boyce [mailto:AJ [email protected]]
Posted At: 22. marts 2005 00:23
Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
Conversation: i need help with layers move places in frontpage
Subject: i need help with layers move places in frontpage


I have been creating a webpage for a school project and just
realized that the layers that i used on the pages move places
depending on the screen resolution... I really need some
help, soon because it is due 3/24/05.

Please help me, AJ
 
A

AJ Boyce

my page is not on the internet, so i cant show it to you. i am sure it is the
layers moving because everything stays centered and then depending on the
screen size the layers will show up in different places. for example i have
some pages with a slideshow and then some buttons on the left and text on the
right and they are both in layers and depending on different computers i view
it on some times the buttons look far away from the slideshow and sometimes
it is overlaping on the slideshow.
Murray said:
Please ignore that suggestion as it will only cause you more problems.

Can you show me your page?

Are you REALLY sure it's the layers moving, and not some table content
underneath the layer?

--
Murray
============

AJ Boyce said:
how do i do a containing layer

Jens Peter Karlsen said:
Place them in a containing layer.

Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.

-----Original Message-----
From: AJ Boyce [mailto:AJ [email protected]]
Posted At: 22. marts 2005 00:23
Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
Conversation: i need help with layers move places in frontpage
Subject: i need help with layers move places in frontpage


I have been creating a webpage for a school project and just
realized that the layers that i used on the pages move places
depending on the screen resolution... I really need some
help, soon because it is due 3/24/05.

Please help me, AJ
 
A

AJ Boyce

if you want me to i can email you the files from one of my problem pages...
it is only 9 files, and i would need your email address. i tried to put this
page on the web, but i am currently having problems.

AJ Boyce said:
my page is not on the internet, so i cant show it to you. i am sure it is the
layers moving because everything stays centered and then depending on the
screen size the layers will show up in different places. for example i have
some pages with a slideshow and then some buttons on the left and text on the
right and they are both in layers and depending on different computers i view
it on some times the buttons look far away from the slideshow and sometimes
it is overlaping on the slideshow.
Murray said:
Please ignore that suggestion as it will only cause you more problems.

Can you show me your page?

Are you REALLY sure it's the layers moving, and not some table content
underneath the layer?

--
Murray
============

AJ Boyce said:
how do i do a containing layer

:

Place them in a containing layer.

Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.

-----Original Message-----
From: AJ Boyce [mailto:AJ [email protected]]
Posted At: 22. marts 2005 00:23
Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
Conversation: i need help with layers move places in frontpage
Subject: i need help with layers move places in frontpage


I have been creating a webpage for a school project and just
realized that the layers that i used on the pages move places
depending on the screen resolution... I really need some
help, soon because it is due 3/24/05.

Please help me, AJ
 
M

Murray

because everything stays centered

That's the tip-off. Your layers are pasted like glue to the screen (that's
why they are called absolutely positioned elements) and the rest of the page
is moving/centering underneath them. If you had a screen ruler, you could
measure the position of the layers in the browser viewport, and I'm paying
dollars to doughnuts that the distance from the left and top margins of the
browser's viewport is constant for the layers.

See - that's the problem when you mix absolute positioning with centering
content.

Here's something simple you could try....

Add this to the head of the page -

<style type="text/css">
<!--
body { text-align:center; }
#wrapper { width:760px; margin:0 auto; position:relative;text-align:left; }
/* you may need to adjust this width value */
-->
</style>

and change your HTML as follows -

change this -

<body...>

to this -

<body...>
<div id="wrapper">

and this -

</body>

to this -

</div>
</body>

and see what happens on one of these pages.

--
Murray
============

AJ Boyce said:
my page is not on the internet, so i cant show it to you. i am sure it is
the
layers moving because everything stays centered and then depending on the
screen size the layers will show up in different places. for example i
have
some pages with a slideshow and then some buttons on the left and text on
the
right and they are both in layers and depending on different computers i
view
it on some times the buttons look far away from the slideshow and
sometimes
it is overlaping on the slideshow.
Murray said:
Please ignore that suggestion as it will only cause you more problems.

Can you show me your page?

Are you REALLY sure it's the layers moving, and not some table content
underneath the layer?

--
Murray
============

AJ Boyce said:
how do i do a containing layer

:

Place them in a containing layer.

Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.

-----Original Message-----
From: AJ Boyce [mailto:AJ [email protected]]
Posted At: 22. marts 2005 00:23
Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
Conversation: i need help with layers move places in frontpage
Subject: i need help with layers move places in frontpage


I have been creating a webpage for a school project and just
realized that the layers that i used on the pages move places
depending on the screen resolution... I really need some
help, soon because it is due 3/24/05.

Please help me, AJ
 
J

Jens Peter Karlsen[FP MVP]

A layer that you put the rest in.

Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.
-----Original Message-----
From: AJ Boyce [mailto:[email protected]]
Posted At: 22. marts 2005 01:49
Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
Conversation: i need help with layers move places in frontpage
Subject: Re: i need help with layers move places in frontpage


how do i do a containing layer

Jens Peter Karlsen said:
Place them in a containing layer.

Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.
-----Original Message-----
From: AJ Boyce [mailto:AJ [email protected]] Posted
At: 22. marts 2005 00:23 Posted To:
microsoft.public.frontpage.client
Conversation: i need help with layers move places in frontpage
Subject: i need help with layers move places in frontpage


I have been creating a webpage for a school project and just
realized that the layers that i used on the pages move places
depending on the screen resolution... I really need some help, soon
because it is due 3/24/05.

Please help me, AJ
 
J

Jens Peter Karlsen[FP MVP]

First you tell him to not use a containing layer and now you advice to
use one anyway!
So which is it should he use one or not? I say he should take your
second advice and use a containing layer as you described below.

Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.
-----Original Message-----
From: Murray [mailto:[email protected]]
Posted At: 22. marts 2005 12:34
Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
Conversation: i need help with layers move places in frontpage
Subject: Re: i need help with layers move places in frontpage

because everything stays centered

That's the tip-off. Your layers are pasted like glue to the
screen (that's why they are called absolutely positioned
elements) and the rest of the page is moving/centering
underneath them. If you had a screen ruler, you could
measure the position of the layers in the browser viewport,
and I'm paying dollars to doughnuts that the distance from
the left and top margins of the browser's viewport is
constant for the layers.

See - that's the problem when you mix absolute positioning
with centering content.

Here's something simple you could try....

Add this to the head of the page -

<style type="text/css">
<!--
body { text-align:center; }
#wrapper { width:760px; margin:0 auto;
position:relative;text-align:left; }
/* you may need to adjust this width value */
-->
</style>

and change your HTML as follows -

change this -

<body...>

to this -

<body...>
<div id="wrapper">

and this -

</body>

to this -

</div>
</body>

and see what happens on one of these pages.

--
Murray
============

AJ Boyce said:
my page is not on the internet, so i cant show it to you. i am sure it
is the layers moving because everything stays centered and then
depending on the screen size the layers will show up in different
places. for example i have some pages with a slideshow and then some
buttons on the left and text on the right and they are both in layers
and depending on different computers i view it on some times the
buttons look far away from the slideshow and sometimes it is
overlaping on the slideshow.
Murray said:
Please ignore that suggestion as it will only cause you more problems.

Can you show me your page?

Are you REALLY sure it's the layers moving, and not some table
content underneath the layer?

--
Murray
============

how do i do a containing layer

:

Place them in a containing layer.

Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.

-----Original Message-----
From: AJ Boyce [mailto:AJ [email protected]]
Posted At: 22. marts 2005 00:23 Posted To:
microsoft.public.frontpage.client
Conversation: i need help with layers move places in frontpage
Subject: i need help with layers move places in frontpage


I have been creating a webpage for a school project and just
realized that the layers that i used on the pages move places
depending on the screen resolution... I really need some help,
soon because it is due 3/24/05.

Please help me, AJ
 
M

Murray

Yes, I see how that can be confusing.

Note - a relatively positioned div is quite different than an absolutely
positioned div. The former is NOT a layer in the conventional sense, while
the latter is. Note also that my recommended CSS causes that relatively
positioned div to center itself in the browser viewport. Since absolutely
positioned divs take their position from the nearest positioned parent, and
since (in my suggestion) the nearest positioned parent is a centering div,
the absolutely positioned divs will be properly aligned as the page centers.

In your suggestion, wrapping the layers with another outer layer will have
no effect on their ability to center as the page content centers, since they
will all take their position from the 0, 0 coordinates of the body tag.

To see what I mean, go here -
http://www.great-web-sights.com/g_layersdemo.asp

There are two divs of interest on that page (actually, there are quite a few
others) - the two in the middle of the page. Note how they BOTH stay
properly aligned as you expand and contract the browser viewport.

--
Murray
============

Jens Peter Karlsen said:
First you tell him to not use a containing layer and now you advice to
use one anyway!
So which is it should he use one or not? I say he should take your
second advice and use a containing layer as you described below.

Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.
-----Original Message-----
From: Murray [mailto:[email protected]]
Posted At: 22. marts 2005 12:34
Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
Conversation: i need help with layers move places in frontpage
Subject: Re: i need help with layers move places in frontpage

because everything stays centered

That's the tip-off. Your layers are pasted like glue to the
screen (that's why they are called absolutely positioned
elements) and the rest of the page is moving/centering
underneath them. If you had a screen ruler, you could
measure the position of the layers in the browser viewport,
and I'm paying dollars to doughnuts that the distance from
the left and top margins of the browser's viewport is
constant for the layers.

See - that's the problem when you mix absolute positioning
with centering content.

Here's something simple you could try....

Add this to the head of the page -

<style type="text/css">
<!--
body { text-align:center; }
#wrapper { width:760px; margin:0 auto;
position:relative;text-align:left; }
/* you may need to adjust this width value */
-->
</style>

and change your HTML as follows -

change this -

<body...>

to this -

<body...>
<div id="wrapper">

and this -

</body>

to this -

</div>
</body>

and see what happens on one of these pages.

--
Murray
============

AJ Boyce said:
my page is not on the internet, so i cant show it to you. i am sure it
is the layers moving because everything stays centered and then
depending on the screen size the layers will show up in different
places. for example i have some pages with a slideshow and then some
buttons on the left and text on the right and they are both in layers
and depending on different computers i view it on some times the
buttons look far away from the slideshow and sometimes it is
overlaping on the slideshow.
:

Please ignore that suggestion as it will only cause you more problems.

Can you show me your page?

Are you REALLY sure it's the layers moving, and not some table
content underneath the layer?

--
Murray
============

how do i do a containing layer

:

Place them in a containing layer.

Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.

-----Original Message-----
From: AJ Boyce [mailto:AJ [email protected]]
Posted At: 22. marts 2005 00:23 Posted To:
microsoft.public.frontpage.client
Conversation: i need help with layers move places in frontpage
Subject: i need help with layers move places in frontpage


I have been creating a webpage for a school project and just
realized that the layers that i used on the pages move places
depending on the screen resolution... I really need some help,
soon because it is due 3/24/05.

Please help me, AJ
 
J

Jens Peter Karlsen[FP MVP]

To quote someone famous "that depend on what you constitute" layer "to
mean". To me it matters not if it is positioned relative or absolute. It
is still a layer.
A containing layer should be positioned relatively to the viewport and I
should have mentioned that myself.

Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.
-----Original Message-----
From: Murray [mailto:[email protected]]
Posted At: 22. marts 2005 15:43
Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
Conversation: i need help with layers move places in frontpage
Subject: Re: i need help with layers move places in frontpage


Yes, I see how that can be confusing.

Note - a relatively positioned div is quite different than an
absolutely positioned div. The former is NOT a layer in the
conventional sense, while the latter is. Note also that my
recommended CSS causes that relatively positioned div to
center itself in the browser viewport. Since absolutely
positioned divs take their position from the nearest
positioned parent, and since (in my suggestion) the nearest
positioned parent is a centering div, the absolutely
positioned divs will be properly aligned as the page centers.

In your suggestion, wrapping the layers with another outer
layer will have no effect on their ability to center as the
page content centers, since they will all take their position
from the 0, 0 coordinates of the body tag.

To see what I mean, go here -
http://www.great-web-sights.com/g_layersdemo.asp

There are two divs of interest on that page (actually, there
are quite a few
others) - the two in the middle of the page. Note how they
BOTH stay properly aligned as you expand and contract the
browser viewport.

--
Murray
============

Jens Peter Karlsen said:
First you tell him to not use a containing layer and now you advice to
use one anyway!
So which is it should he use one or not? I say he should take your
second advice and use a containing layer as you described below.

Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.
-----Original Message-----
From: Murray [mailto:[email protected]]
Posted At: 22. marts 2005 12:34
Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
Conversation: i need help with layers move places in frontpage
Subject: Re: i need help with layers move places in frontpage


because everything stays centered

That's the tip-off. Your layers are pasted like glue to the screen
(that's why they are called absolutely positioned
elements) and the rest of the page is moving/centering underneath
them. If you had a screen ruler, you could measure the position of
the layers in the browser viewport, and I'm paying dollars to
doughnuts that the distance from the left and top margins of the
browser's viewport is constant for the layers.

See - that's the problem when you mix absolute positioning with
centering content.

Here's something simple you could try....

Add this to the head of the page -

<style type="text/css">
<!--
body { text-align:center; }
#wrapper { width:760px; margin:0 auto;
position:relative;text-align:left; }
/* you may need to adjust this width value */
-->
</style>

and change your HTML as follows -

change this -

<body...>

to this -

<body...>
<div id="wrapper">

and this -

</body>

to this -

</div>
</body>

and see what happens on one of these pages.

--
Murray
============

my page is not on the internet, so i cant show it to you. i
am sure it
is the layers moving because everything stays centered and then
depending on the screen size the layers will show up in different
places. for example i have some pages with a slideshow and
then some
buttons on the left and text on the right and they are both
in layers
and depending on different computers i view it on some times the
buttons look far away from the slideshow and sometimes it is
overlaping on the slideshow.
:

Please ignore that suggestion as it will only cause you
more problems.

Can you show me your page?

Are you REALLY sure it's the layers moving, and not some table
content underneath the layer?

--
Murray
============

how do i do a containing layer

:

Place them in a containing layer.

Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.

-----Original Message-----
From: AJ Boyce [mailto:AJ [email protected]]
Posted At: 22. marts 2005 00:23 Posted To:
microsoft.public.frontpage.client
Conversation: i need help with layers move places in
frontpage
Subject: i need help with layers move places in frontpage


I have been creating a webpage for a school project and just
realized that the layers that i used on the pages move places
depending on the screen resolution... I really need
some help,
soon because it is due 3/24/05.

Please help me, AJ
 
M

Murray

Yep - that would make a world of difference.

As far as I can recall, you are the only person I have ever heard that
considers a relatively positioned div to be a layer. DW does not, and GL
does not.

In fact, in DW, any absolutely positioned page element *becomes* a layer,
whether it is a div tag or not. So, for example,

<table style="position:absolute">

would be considered a layer! !!!

It's all a semantic thing, however, since none of the HTML specs refer to
"layer"....

--
Murray
============

Jens Peter Karlsen said:
To quote someone famous "that depend on what you constitute" layer "to
mean". To me it matters not if it is positioned relative or absolute. It
is still a layer.
A containing layer should be positioned relatively to the viewport and I
should have mentioned that myself.

Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.
-----Original Message-----
From: Murray [mailto:[email protected]]
Posted At: 22. marts 2005 15:43
Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
Conversation: i need help with layers move places in frontpage
Subject: Re: i need help with layers move places in frontpage


Yes, I see how that can be confusing.

Note - a relatively positioned div is quite different than an
absolutely positioned div. The former is NOT a layer in the
conventional sense, while the latter is. Note also that my
recommended CSS causes that relatively positioned div to
center itself in the browser viewport. Since absolutely
positioned divs take their position from the nearest
positioned parent, and since (in my suggestion) the nearest
positioned parent is a centering div, the absolutely
positioned divs will be properly aligned as the page centers.

In your suggestion, wrapping the layers with another outer
layer will have no effect on their ability to center as the
page content centers, since they will all take their position
from the 0, 0 coordinates of the body tag.

To see what I mean, go here -
http://www.great-web-sights.com/g_layersdemo.asp

There are two divs of interest on that page (actually, there
are quite a few
others) - the two in the middle of the page. Note how they
BOTH stay properly aligned as you expand and contract the
browser viewport.

--
Murray
============

Jens Peter Karlsen said:
First you tell him to not use a containing layer and now you advice to
use one anyway!
So which is it should he use one or not? I say he should take your
second advice and use a containing layer as you described below.

Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.

-----Original Message-----
From: Murray [mailto:[email protected]]
Posted At: 22. marts 2005 12:34
Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
Conversation: i need help with layers move places in frontpage
Subject: Re: i need help with layers move places in frontpage


because everything stays centered

That's the tip-off. Your layers are pasted like glue to the screen
(that's why they are called absolutely positioned
elements) and the rest of the page is moving/centering underneath
them. If you had a screen ruler, you could measure the position of
the layers in the browser viewport, and I'm paying dollars to
doughnuts that the distance from the left and top margins of the
browser's viewport is constant for the layers.

See - that's the problem when you mix absolute positioning with
centering content.

Here's something simple you could try....

Add this to the head of the page -

<style type="text/css">
<!--
body { text-align:center; }
#wrapper { width:760px; margin:0 auto;
position:relative;text-align:left; }
/* you may need to adjust this width value */
-->
</style>

and change your HTML as follows -

change this -

<body...>

to this -

<body...>
<div id="wrapper">

and this -

</body>

to this -

</div>
</body>

and see what happens on one of these pages.

--
Murray
============

my page is not on the internet, so i cant show it to you. i
am sure it
is the layers moving because everything stays centered and then
depending on the screen size the layers will show up in different
places. for example i have some pages with a slideshow and
then some
buttons on the left and text on the right and they are both
in layers
and depending on different computers i view it on some times the
buttons look far away from the slideshow and sometimes it is
overlaping on the slideshow.
:

Please ignore that suggestion as it will only cause you
more problems.

Can you show me your page?

Are you REALLY sure it's the layers moving, and not some table
content underneath the layer?

--
Murray
============

how do i do a containing layer

:

Place them in a containing layer.

Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.

-----Original Message-----
From: AJ Boyce [mailto:AJ [email protected]]
Posted At: 22. marts 2005 00:23 Posted To:
microsoft.public.frontpage.client
Conversation: i need help with layers move places in
frontpage
Subject: i need help with layers move places in frontpage


I have been creating a webpage for a school project and just
realized that the layers that i used on the pages move places
depending on the screen resolution... I really need
some help,
soon because it is due 3/24/05.

Please help me, AJ
 
A

AJ Boyce

are you telling me to set it to be positioned relatively?

Jens Peter Karlsen said:
A layer that you put the rest in.

Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.
-----Original Message-----
From: AJ Boyce [mailto:[email protected]]
Posted At: 22. marts 2005 01:49
Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
Conversation: i need help with layers move places in frontpage
Subject: Re: i need help with layers move places in frontpage


how do i do a containing layer

Jens Peter Karlsen said:
Place them in a containing layer.

Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.

-----Original Message-----
From: AJ Boyce [mailto:AJ [email protected]] Posted
At: 22. marts 2005 00:23 Posted To:
microsoft.public.frontpage.client
Conversation: i need help with layers move places in frontpage
Subject: i need help with layers move places in frontpage


I have been creating a webpage for a school project and just
realized that the layers that i used on the pages move places
depending on the screen resolution... I really need some help, soon
because it is due 3/24/05.

Please help me, AJ
 
M

Murray

Yes. Look at the example I gave you earlier in the thread.

--
Murray
============

AJ Boyce said:
are you telling me to set it to be positioned relatively?

Jens Peter Karlsen said:
A layer that you put the rest in.

Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.
-----Original Message-----
From: AJ Boyce [mailto:[email protected]]
Posted At: 22. marts 2005 01:49
Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
Conversation: i need help with layers move places in frontpage
Subject: Re: i need help with layers move places in frontpage


how do i do a containing layer

:

Place them in a containing layer.

Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.

-----Original Message-----
From: AJ Boyce [mailto:AJ [email protected]] Posted
At: 22. marts 2005 00:23 Posted To:
microsoft.public.frontpage.client
Conversation: i need help with layers move places in frontpage
Subject: i need help with layers move places in frontpage


I have been creating a webpage for a school project and just
realized that the layers that i used on the pages move places
depending on the screen resolution... I really need some
help, soon
because it is due 3/24/05.

Please help me, AJ
 
T

Trevor L.

Murray and Jens.
Thanks for this discussion.

I have been confused by the terms "layer". Reading between the lines of
other discussions, I have taken it to mean an absolutely positioned <div>.
Now I read it is any absolutely positioned element. That would even include
a paragraph, I assume.

Does someone wish to throw in an exact definition, or is this it?
--
Cheers,
Trevor L.
Website: http://tandcl.homemail.com.au


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M

Murray

Being as how there is really no such thing as a 'layer' it's hard to be
definitive. For me, a layer would be anything that can be absolutely
positioned, including a paragraph, a table, an image, or a div. A
relatively positioned thing, therefore, is not a layer. FP is a little soft
on this definition because when you look at the properties of a "LAYER" you
can specify that it have "None", "Absolute", or "Relative" positioning.
This implies that only divs have this property, and that all positioned divs
are layers. I disagree with that notion.

I say this because there are two fundamental differences between relatively
and absolutely positoned elements -

1. One takes up space on the page and the other doesn't (former, latter)
2. One is removed from the flow of code and the other isn't (latter,
former)

and because you can relatively or absolutely position any page element, not
just a div.
 
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Jim Cheshire \(JIMCO\)

Murray said:
Being as how there is really no such thing as a 'layer' it's hard to
be definitive. For me, a layer would be anything that can be
absolutely positioned, including a paragraph, a table, an image, or a
div. A relatively positioned thing, therefore, is not a layer. FP

I think the term "layer" refers primarily to the fact that it can be ordered
in the Z axis.

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Murray

Jim:

I completely disagree, but there is no 'higher authority' on this, since the
term 'layer' is not defined anywhere.

I can tell you for sure that DW doesn't use that interpretation, and I'm
pretty sure that GL doesn't either. Since Netscape were the ones who first
used the ill-fated <layer> tag, I guess we could ask them.... 8)
 
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Jim Cheshire \(JIMCO\)

Murray said:
I completely disagree, but there is no 'higher authority' on this,
since the term 'layer' is not defined anywhere.

I can tell you for sure that DW doesn't use that interpretation, and
I'm pretty sure that GL doesn't either. Since Netscape were the ones
who first used the ill-fated <layer> tag, I guess we could ask
them.... 8)

I'm speaking in the context of FrontPage. FrontPage's Layers are not the
same as Netscape's <layer> tags. FrontPage's Layers are called such because
of the ability to layer them on a page.

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Murray

Fair enough.

Nothing is similar to Netscape's <layer> tags! 8)

In that sense, then, anything that is positioned would be a FP layer.
 
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