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[JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]]

You call that a soap box. Shoot, Brian, that's just a little match box.

There are times when someone has stomped all over my last good nerve and
I've just started to post something that isn't as polite as it could be.
I've learned to pull out that little bit of civility that is cowering in a
back corner of my brain - and then I delete the message before I send it. I
then either rephrase my original comment or I just don't respond.

As far as having someone tell me to STFW or RTFM, until you find yourself
curled up in a corner praying you won't get hit again, you don't know what
abuse is. Maybe that's why it don't bother me as much as some. This doesn't
mean that I feel we can all be as verbally nasty to each other as we want
but I'm not in a position to know why someone posts the way they do. I've
only once told someone to RTFM - and that was after he copped a 'tude with
me. I'll bend over backwards to help someone when they want to learn. I'm a
big believer in teaching a man to fish - just don't hand me the pole and
then sit back and watch me do the work. I keep telling ya' Mamma didn't
raise any dumb daughters.

And now I'll step down off of my little match box.

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

While I am "technically" not a moderator (nor are the other MVP's), I have
spent the better portion of the last decade in these Microsoft Publisher
newsgroups. It seems that I have become a "fixture". I have always had a
comfort level with these particular groups. I thoroughly enjoy assisting
others, whether they are looking for Publisher help or stumbled into the
wrong group and point them in the right direction (or even offer to help
them with their non-publisher related item).

Imagine if you will....you are at Home Depot and you are in the paint area
selecting some new colors for your home. You proceed to ask the paint
clerk a question about their electrical powerstrips. The clerk says to
you, RTFM or STFU you st&pid f### moron, can't you see I do PAINT? When
are are done getting your head outta your @ss, maybe you should come back
to Home Depot. People are saying things that they wouldn't say in real
life because they are behind a computer, feeling all protected.

When I first started using Publisher, I had no idea what
nntp/usenet/newsgroups were. I might have well just have gone to a
Microsoft Windows newsgroup for my questions because I am using Microsoft
Windows. I wouldn't know better.

Microsoft Publisher appeals to a SoHo market and a market of those who are
less computer savy...hence the reason for so many wizards and hand holding
features in Publisher (look forward to even MORE hand holding in Publisher
12 btw).

I honestly thought it was horrible the way David A would treat some of
these people who were new and innocent. Yes, there might be the lazy ones
out there too, but believe me, everyone has a lazy bone in their body.
Nobody is perfect. Assume the best of these people, not the worst.

The absolute best examples that I have seen given here as far as
volunteers go would be John Inzer's and David Bartosik's approach to those
who have come to the wrong place for help. The always point them in the
right direction for future assistance as well as offering assistance for
the off topic item in the same post. That is something that I try to do
when I find time as well. If I don't have time, I let the post go
unanswered.

If you don't like inexperienced users, or you can't deal with some "lazy"
people, then DON'T post here, or at least don't bother to reply. If I
find that some is rude, I will indeed call them on it, and make sure that
the poster knows that this publisher community has far more good than bad
seeds.

That's my soap box. Don't like it? Too bad. That's the way it is. Learn to
be nice.

--
Brian Kvalheim
Microsoft Publisher MVP
http://www.publishermvps.com

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights.

While GD may have used inappropriate language, I am glad he said
something
and wish more people would. The point is Miss T practices abuse, not
tough
love. She lurks around here waiting to pounce on someone that posts
something OT, and yet she herself feels its ok for her to do it...what a
hypocrite. No, Miss 'ticked off' is rarely helpful or even trying to be
helpful...she just gets her kicks out of belittling, shaming and abusing
people if they happen to misspell a word, ask a redundant question, etc.
And
just because she continues to do it, is not a reason to give in and
accept
it Ed. Its a shame that both of you apparently support this. Perhaps if
you
joined Brian, Mary and others and quit supporting this behavior and
called
her out on this she would stop. JoAnn, if your mother was as cruel,
abusive,
negative, bitter and spiteful as Sarah, and treated you the way that
Sarah
treats posters, I pity you.

DavidF

Wasn't there a song that had a lyric, :Sometimes you have to be cruel to be
kind"? Miss T just practices tough love. Just like our moms did whilst
we
were growing up. (Thanks Mom!)

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



Gd <Jh@eerccom> was very recently heard to utter:
When will it sink into your thick f'ing skull that you ARE NOT a
moderator?

When are you going to get it into bla bla bla that you are NOT going
to
change Miss Tick's mind on this issue, and she will continue to do
what
the hell she likes?

You, however, are able to keep quiet and stop annoying me.

Miss Tick is actually trying to help (the cruel to be kind approach) -
this group isn't an Internet Explorer group, and had the user gone to
an
IE group instead of a Publisher group, they may have had a faster/more
accurate reply. If they have an embarrassing experience with Miss
Tick
this time, then next time they may actually remember to check the
group
they're posting in before hitting the Send button.

You, however, are not doing anything for the group at all, save
wasting my
time and bandwidth. I can't believe I actually wasted 3 minutes
writing
this reply.

 

[John Inzer]

Mary is absolutely awesome. Her knowledge
about clip art and graphics issues just blows
me away. Plus she seems to be able to interpret
posts that just make absolutely no sense at all to me.

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Ditto...

Mary is the best!

 

[John Inzer]

snip<
The absolute best examples that I have seen given here as far as
volunteers go would be John Inzer's and David Bartosik's approach to those
who have come to the wrong place for help. The always point them in the
right direction for future assistance as well as offering assistance for
the off topic item in the same post. That is something that I try to do
when I find time as well. If I don't have time, I let the post go
unanswered.
snip<

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The check is in the mail )

 

[JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]]

And I have to say that you are the cat's meow when it comes to being polite
to posters. I think I've seen everyone else lose their patience at some
point but I can honestly say that I can't remember **ever** reading a less
than kind response from you.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

 

[John Inzer]

Thanks JoAnn...

I try to be civil though it can be a stretch at times.

A guy went ballistic on me a few days ago when
I told him: "It's looking like all you really wish to do
is complain."

Meow )

 

[JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]]

<snort> That's your worst?? Oh my!

(Sarah - would you please contact poor John privately? He needs some
lessons. ;-) )


--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

Thanks JoAnn...

I try to be civil though it can be a stretch at times.

A guy went ballistic on me a few days ago when
I told him: "It's looking like all you really wish to do
is complain."

Meow )

 

[John Inzer]

LOL )