I need to save or print my desktop background photo

W

wellheadman

I saved a photo as my desktop background and now I need to save it or print
it. It came from a website that has changed the photo and I did not save it
on my computer except as a desktop background photo.
 
R

Rob Giordano \(Crash Gordon®\)

If you're using it as desktop image, you already have it saved as an image..usually bmp. If you remember the file name just Search your hd for the file.

If you don't remember the name, right click on your desktop and select Properties and you should see there what the file name being used is...then just browse to it with Paint or whatever image editor you use.
 
M

Mary Sauer

If you haven't emptied your Internet Temp files the image will be there, right-click,
copy, paste to any folder.
 
J

John Inzer

If you're running WinXP...you should find your
current downloaded desktop background at
the following location.

C:\Documents and Settings\user name\
Application Data\Microsoft\Internet Explorer

The file name should be:

Internet Explorer Wallpaper.bmp
 
G

Gd

When will it sink into your thick f'ing skull that you ARE NOT a moderator?
You add NOTHING to EVERYTHING except to annoy people to make yourself feel
better.You are a sleazy pig
 
E

Ed Bennett

Gd said:
When will it sink into your thick f'ing skull that you ARE NOT a
moderator?

When are you going to get it into bla bla bla that you are NOT going to
change Miss Tick's mind on this issue, and she will continue to do what the
hell she likes?

You, however, are able to keep quiet and stop annoying me.

Miss Tick is actually trying to help (the cruel to be kind approach) - this
group isn't an Internet Explorer group, and had the user gone to an IE group
instead of a Publisher group, they may have had a faster/more accurate
reply. If they have an embarrassing experience with Miss Tick this time,
then next time they may actually remember to check the group they're posting
in before hitting the Send button.

You, however, are not doing anything for the group at all, save wasting my
time and bandwidth. I can't believe I actually wasted 3 minutes writing
this reply.
 
J

JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]

Wasn't there a song that had a lyric, :Sometimes you have to be cruel to be
kind"? Miss T just practices tough love. Just like our moms did whilst we
were growing up. (Thanks Mom!)
 
D

DavidF

While GD may have used inappropriate language, I am glad he said something
and wish more people would. The point is Miss T practices abuse, not tough
love. She lurks around here waiting to pounce on someone that posts
something OT, and yet she herself feels its ok for her to do it...what a
hypocrite. No, Miss 'ticked off' is rarely helpful or even trying to be
helpful...she just gets her kicks out of belittling, shaming and abusing
people if they happen to misspell a word, ask a redundant question, etc. And
just because she continues to do it, is not a reason to give in and accept
it Ed. Its a shame that both of you apparently support this. Perhaps if you
joined Brian, Mary and others and quit supporting this behavior and called
her out on this she would stop. JoAnn, if your mother was as cruel, abusive,
negative, bitter and spiteful as Sarah, and treated you the way that Sarah
treats posters, I pity you.

DavidF

JoAnn Paules said:
Wasn't there a song that had a lyric, :Sometimes you have to be cruel to be
kind"? Miss T just practices tough love. Just like our moms did whilst we
were growing up. (Thanks Mom!)
 
B

Brian Kvalheim [MSFT MVP]

While I am "technically" not a moderator (nor are the other MVP's), I have
spent the better portion of the last decade in these Microsoft Publisher
newsgroups. It seems that I have become a "fixture". I have always had a
comfort level with these particular groups. I thoroughly enjoy assisting
others, whether they are looking for Publisher help or stumbled into the
wrong group and point them in the right direction (or even offer to help
them with their non-publisher related item).

Imagine if you will....you are at Home Depot and you are in the paint area
selecting some new colors for your home. You proceed to ask the paint clerk
a question about their electrical powerstrips. The clerk says to you, RTFM
or STFU you st&pid f### moron, can't you see I do PAINT? When are are done
getting your head outta your @ss, maybe you should come back to Home Depot.
People are saying things that they wouldn't say in real life because they
are behind a computer, feeling all protected.

When I first started using Publisher, I had no idea what
nntp/usenet/newsgroups were. I might have well just have gone to a Microsoft
Windows newsgroup for my questions because I am using Microsoft Windows. I
wouldn't know better.

Microsoft Publisher appeals to a SoHo market and a market of those who are
less computer savy...hence the reason for so many wizards and hand holding
features in Publisher (look forward to even MORE hand holding in Publisher
12 btw).

I honestly thought it was horrible the way David A would treat some of these
people who were new and innocent. Yes, there might be the lazy ones out
there too, but believe me, everyone has a lazy bone in their body. Nobody is
perfect. Assume the best of these people, not the worst.

The absolute best examples that I have seen given here as far as volunteers
go would be John Inzer's and David Bartosik's approach to those who have
come to the wrong place for help. The always point them in the right
direction for future assistance as well as offering assistance for the off
topic item in the same post. That is something that I try to do when I find
time as well. If I don't have time, I let the post go unanswered.

If you don't like inexperienced users, or you can't deal with some "lazy"
people, then DON'T post here, or at least don't bother to reply. If I find
that some is rude, I will indeed call them on it, and make sure that the
poster knows that this publisher community has far more good than bad seeds.

That's my soap box. Don't like it? Too bad. That's the way it is. Learn to
be nice.

--
Brian Kvalheim
Microsoft Publisher MVP
http://www.publishermvps.com

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights.
DavidF said:
While GD may have used inappropriate language, I am glad he said something
and wish more people would. The point is Miss T practices abuse, not tough
love. She lurks around here waiting to pounce on someone that posts
something OT, and yet she herself feels its ok for her to do it...what a
hypocrite. No, Miss 'ticked off' is rarely helpful or even trying to be
helpful...she just gets her kicks out of belittling, shaming and abusing
people if they happen to misspell a word, ask a redundant question, etc.
And
just because she continues to do it, is not a reason to give in and accept
it Ed. Its a shame that both of you apparently support this. Perhaps if
you
joined Brian, Mary and others and quit supporting this behavior and called
her out on this she would stop. JoAnn, if your mother was as cruel,
abusive,
negative, bitter and spiteful as Sarah, and treated you the way that Sarah
treats posters, I pity you.

DavidF

JoAnn Paules said:
Wasn't there a song that had a lyric, :Sometimes you have to be cruel to be
kind"? Miss T just practices tough love. Just like our moms did whilst we
were growing up. (Thanks Mom!)

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



Ed Bennett said:
Gd <Jh@eerccom> was very recently heard to utter:
When will it sink into your thick f'ing skull that you ARE NOT a
moderator?

When are you going to get it into bla bla bla that you are NOT going to
change Miss Tick's mind on this issue, and she will continue to do what
the hell she likes?

You, however, are able to keep quiet and stop annoying me.

Miss Tick is actually trying to help (the cruel to be kind approach) -
this group isn't an Internet Explorer group, and had the user gone to
an
IE group instead of a Publisher group, they may have had a faster/more
accurate reply. If they have an embarrassing experience with Miss Tick
this time, then next time they may actually remember to check the group
they're posting in before hitting the Send button.

You, however, are not doing anything for the group at all, save wasting my
time and bandwidth. I can't believe I actually wasted 3 minutes
writing
this reply.
 
M

Mary Sauer

Nice post Brian and DavidF... I got my feet wet with David A., he wasn't a charmer
for new folks, but he certainly knew the Publisher application. I miss his zingers
sometimes. I will never miss Sarah...

--
Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
http://office.microsoft.com/

Brian Kvalheim said:
While I am "technically" not a moderator (nor are the other MVP's), I have spent
the better portion of the last decade in these Microsoft Publisher newsgroups. It
seems that I have become a "fixture". I have always had a comfort level with these
particular groups. I thoroughly enjoy assisting others, whether they are looking
for Publisher help or stumbled into the wrong group and point them in the right
direction (or even offer to help them with their non-publisher related item).

Imagine if you will....you are at Home Depot and you are in the paint area
selecting some new colors for your home. You proceed to ask the paint clerk a
question about their electrical powerstrips. The clerk says to you, RTFM or STFU
you st&pid f### moron, can't you see I do PAINT? When are are done getting your
head outta your @ss, maybe you should come back to Home Depot. People are saying
things that they wouldn't say in real life because they are behind a computer,
feeling all protected.

When I first started using Publisher, I had no idea what nntp/usenet/newsgroups
were. I might have well just have gone to a Microsoft Windows newsgroup for my
questions because I am using Microsoft Windows. I wouldn't know better.

Microsoft Publisher appeals to a SoHo market and a market of those who are less
computer savy...hence the reason for so many wizards and hand holding features in
Publisher (look forward to even MORE hand holding in Publisher 12 btw).

I honestly thought it was horrible the way David A would treat some of these people
who were new and innocent. Yes, there might be the lazy ones out there too, but
believe me, everyone has a lazy bone in their body. Nobody is perfect. Assume the
best of these people, not the worst.

The absolute best examples that I have seen given here as far as volunteers go
would be John Inzer's and David Bartosik's approach to those who have come to the
wrong place for help. The always point them in the right direction for future
assistance as well as offering assistance for the off topic item in the same post.
That is something that I try to do when I find time as well. If I don't have time,
I let the post go unanswered.

If you don't like inexperienced users, or you can't deal with some "lazy" people,
then DON'T post here, or at least don't bother to reply. If I find that some is
rude, I will indeed call them on it, and make sure that the poster knows that this
publisher community has far more good than bad seeds.

That's my soap box. Don't like it? Too bad. That's the way it is. Learn to be nice.

--
Brian Kvalheim
Microsoft Publisher MVP
http://www.publishermvps.com

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights.
DavidF said:
While GD may have used inappropriate language, I am glad he said something
and wish more people would. The point is Miss T practices abuse, not tough
love. She lurks around here waiting to pounce on someone that posts
something OT, and yet she herself feels its ok for her to do it...what a
hypocrite. No, Miss 'ticked off' is rarely helpful or even trying to be
helpful...she just gets her kicks out of belittling, shaming and abusing
people if they happen to misspell a word, ask a redundant question, etc. And
just because she continues to do it, is not a reason to give in and accept
it Ed. Its a shame that both of you apparently support this. Perhaps if you
joined Brian, Mary and others and quit supporting this behavior and called
her out on this she would stop. JoAnn, if your mother was as cruel, abusive,
negative, bitter and spiteful as Sarah, and treated you the way that Sarah
treats posters, I pity you.

DavidF

JoAnn Paules said:
Wasn't there a song that had a lyric, :Sometimes you have to be cruel to be
kind"? Miss T just practices tough love. Just like our moms did whilst we
were growing up. (Thanks Mom!)

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



Gd <Jh@eerccom> was very recently heard to utter:
When will it sink into your thick f'ing skull that you ARE NOT a
moderator?

When are you going to get it into bla bla bla that you are NOT going to
change Miss Tick's mind on this issue, and she will continue to do what
the hell she likes?

You, however, are able to keep quiet and stop annoying me.

Miss Tick is actually trying to help (the cruel to be kind approach) -
this group isn't an Internet Explorer group, and had the user gone to an
IE group instead of a Publisher group, they may have had a faster/more
accurate reply. If they have an embarrassing experience with Miss Tick
this time, then next time they may actually remember to check the group
they're posting in before hitting the Send button.

You, however, are not doing anything for the group at all, save wasting my
time and bandwidth. I can't believe I actually wasted 3 minutes writing
this reply.
 
R

Rob Giordano \(Crash Gordon®\)

Well said, I totally agree.
If you're gonna help...help, if you're gonna be obnoxious...go to an ..alt group.



Brian Kvalheim said:
While I am "technically" not a moderator (nor are the other MVP's), I have
spent the better portion of the last decade in these Microsoft Publisher
newsgroups. It seems that I have become a "fixture". I have always had a
comfort level with these particular groups. I thoroughly enjoy assisting
others, whether they are looking for Publisher help or stumbled into the
wrong group and point them in the right direction (or even offer to help
them with their non-publisher related item).

Imagine if you will....you are at Home Depot and you are in the paint area
selecting some new colors for your home. You proceed to ask the paint clerk
a question about their electrical powerstrips. The clerk says to you, RTFM
or STFU you st&pid f### moron, can't you see I do PAINT? When are are done
getting your head outta your @ss, maybe you should come back to Home Depot.
People are saying things that they wouldn't say in real life because they
are behind a computer, feeling all protected.

When I first started using Publisher, I had no idea what
nntp/usenet/newsgroups were. I might have well just have gone to a Microsoft
Windows newsgroup for my questions because I am using Microsoft Windows. I
wouldn't know better.

Microsoft Publisher appeals to a SoHo market and a market of those who are
less computer savy...hence the reason for so many wizards and hand holding
features in Publisher (look forward to even MORE hand holding in Publisher
12 btw).

I honestly thought it was horrible the way David A would treat some of these
people who were new and innocent. Yes, there might be the lazy ones out
there too, but believe me, everyone has a lazy bone in their body. Nobody is
perfect. Assume the best of these people, not the worst.

The absolute best examples that I have seen given here as far as volunteers
go would be John Inzer's and David Bartosik's approach to those who have
come to the wrong place for help. The always point them in the right
direction for future assistance as well as offering assistance for the off
topic item in the same post. That is something that I try to do when I find
time as well. If I don't have time, I let the post go unanswered.

If you don't like inexperienced users, or you can't deal with some "lazy"
people, then DON'T post here, or at least don't bother to reply. If I find
that some is rude, I will indeed call them on it, and make sure that the
poster knows that this publisher community has far more good than bad seeds.

That's my soap box. Don't like it? Too bad. That's the way it is. Learn to
be nice.

--
Brian Kvalheim
Microsoft Publisher MVP
http://www.publishermvps.com

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights.
DavidF said:
While GD may have used inappropriate language, I am glad he said something
and wish more people would. The point is Miss T practices abuse, not tough
love. She lurks around here waiting to pounce on someone that posts
something OT, and yet she herself feels its ok for her to do it...what a
hypocrite. No, Miss 'ticked off' is rarely helpful or even trying to be
helpful...she just gets her kicks out of belittling, shaming and abusing
people if they happen to misspell a word, ask a redundant question, etc.
And
just because she continues to do it, is not a reason to give in and accept
it Ed. Its a shame that both of you apparently support this. Perhaps if
you
joined Brian, Mary and others and quit supporting this behavior and called
her out on this she would stop. JoAnn, if your mother was as cruel,
abusive,
negative, bitter and spiteful as Sarah, and treated you the way that Sarah
treats posters, I pity you.

DavidF

JoAnn Paules said:
Wasn't there a song that had a lyric, :Sometimes you have to be cruel to be
kind"? Miss T just practices tough love. Just like our moms did whilst we
were growing up. (Thanks Mom!)

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



Gd <Jh@eerccom> was very recently heard to utter:
When will it sink into your thick f'ing skull that you ARE NOT a
moderator?

When are you going to get it into bla bla bla that you are NOT going to
change Miss Tick's mind on this issue, and she will continue to do what
the hell she likes?

You, however, are able to keep quiet and stop annoying me.

Miss Tick is actually trying to help (the cruel to be kind approach) -
this group isn't an Internet Explorer group, and had the user gone to
an
IE group instead of a Publisher group, they may have had a faster/more
accurate reply. If they have an embarrassing experience with Miss Tick
this time, then next time they may actually remember to check the group
they're posting in before hitting the Send button.

You, however, are not doing anything for the group at all, save wasting my
time and bandwidth. I can't believe I actually wasted 3 minutes
writing
this reply.
 
R

Rob Giordano \(Crash Gordon®\)

And, sometimes people do not express themselves clearly in their OP. In this op maybe he was "thinkin" of using that bg image for something in Pub, but never actually typed that part of the question. Who knows?



David Bartosik said:
Well now.

Since I am a long time standing Publisher MVP as well, second only to Brian,
I suppose I will weigh in here with the wisdom that comes with my age,
rather then ignore this sideshow foray as I typically do.

I agree 100% with Brian and his analogy is right on. And yes the MS
Community does not have "moderators". That is why you are free to do and say
as you please. The MVP role is to provide assistance and to have a
recognition by the poster that the response is credible.

I have to add something that I believe everyone overlooks.... we don't know
this poster. But most importantly we don't know what brought them here. It
very well could be someone that has been around and used this group for some
time. And though unrelated a topic it was, they likely could have posted
here simply from a comfort factor. All of us "regulars" are guilty of that
on occasion. Of course we know that the subject should be prefixed with
"OT", but then we are forum savvy.

Handling an OT post depends on context as well. I consider the context of
the question before a response.

Now with this post I would have given an answer to the best of my knowledge
and followed up by informing the poster that this was OT for this group and
if they needed more assistance they needed to repost to the appropriate
forum.

I think the attacking responder in question here is a problem. But then we
all have to learn to live with and deal with people we can't stand and/or
can't agree with. That is the reality of life. With that in mind my opinion
is that the attack on the attacker was un-called for. Understandable, yes.
But sometimes one has to be the better individual. I believe that the
attacking post should have been ignored. And I believe the attack post on
the attacker should have been ignored as well. Though I can understand the
emotions that drove that.

In the end the simple truth is, the attacker was technically correct. And
it's view as an "attack" is our perception. And it's our perception because
we truly believe in what we do. The original poster may have thought nothing
of it. Again, perception.

Since we are human ( I hope) we all have perceptions, emotions, and degrees
of stupidity. Sometimes one should take a breath before writing a post.
Honestly, many times I've wanted to tell a poster how much I simply wanted
to shake them silly because they were (in my view of course), stupid.
Sometimes you have to step out of the forum for a bit and then you remember
that posting something of no help to anyone is stupid and bad policy.

Here in our little online world we need to keep our emotions and our
stupidity in check, just like we do in our normal offline lives (assuming we
all have one), least this little home of ours melts down into pure chaos and
sideshows, and we lose sight of it's purpose, it's daily vision, which is to
provide the best support (and the cheapest) to the Publisher customer.
Period.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com


Brian Kvalheim said:
While I am "technically" not a moderator (nor are the other MVP's), I have
spent the better portion of the last decade in these Microsoft Publisher
newsgroups. It seems that I have become a "fixture". I have always had a
comfort level with these particular groups. I thoroughly enjoy assisting
others, whether they are looking for Publisher help or stumbled into the
wrong group and point them in the right direction (or even offer to help
them with their non-publisher related item).
 
G

Gunilla

May I also give the best credit about how well you all here handle this
situation....it made me thinking that MS newsgroups really have dedicated,
nice people how give what they can, the best they can and that is always
what I have thought this is about when volunteering giving help. For a while
I felt so disappointed after reading, especially the Win XP groups, as in
there some of the contributors have a capability to being abusive to the so
called OP. I have seen lots of such answers from the very Miss PT, and
others too, and it scares me how a person can be so cold, insensitive and
mean.

I am a frequent poster my self in the Swedish newsgroup and would never even
think about being abusive to a poster just because he/she is either using
the wrong terms or grammar or even the wrong Newsgroup as that happens
sometimes that the posters are using the English language instead which is a
sign that they are totally in the wrong NG...I would just point them to the
right direction instead, or give them the answer if I know it.

And yes, as mentioned, we don't know the OP, where they come from and what
experience they may have. One thing I often see and that is that they are
told, in a nasty way, that they should post a request in a NG with their own
language but it is not so obvious they have a NG in their native language.

Thanks and best regards and keep up the good work and spirit here,

Gunilla.
David Bartosik said:
Well now.

Since I am a long time standing Publisher MVP as well, second only to
Brian, I suppose I will weigh in here with the wisdom that comes with my
age, rather then ignore this sideshow foray as I typically do.

I agree 100% with Brian and his analogy is right on. And yes the MS
Community does not have "moderators". That is why you are free to do and
say as you please. The MVP role is to provide assistance and to have a
recognition by the poster that the response is credible.

I have to add something that I believe everyone overlooks.... we don't
know this poster. But most importantly we don't know what brought them
here. It very well could be someone that has been around and used this
group for some time. And though unrelated a topic it was, they likely
could have posted here simply from a comfort factor. All of us "regulars"
are guilty of that on occasion. Of course we know that the subject should
be prefixed with "OT", but then we are forum savvy.

Handling an OT post depends on context as well. I consider the context of
the question before a response.

Now with this post I would have given an answer to the best of my
knowledge and followed up by informing the poster that this was OT for
this group and if they needed more assistance they needed to repost to the
appropriate forum.

I think the attacking responder in question here is a problem. But then we
all have to learn to live with and deal with people we can't stand and/or
can't agree with. That is the reality of life. With that in mind my
opinion is that the attack on the attacker was un-called for.
Understandable, yes. But sometimes one has to be the better individual. I
believe that the attacking post should have been ignored. And I believe
the attack post on the attacker should have been ignored as well. Though I
can understand the emotions that drove that.

In the end the simple truth is, the attacker was technically correct. And
it's view as an "attack" is our perception. And it's our perception
because we truly believe in what we do. The original poster may have
thought nothing of it. Again, perception.

Since we are human ( I hope) we all have perceptions, emotions, and
degrees of stupidity. Sometimes one should take a breath before writing a
post. Honestly, many times I've wanted to tell a poster how much I simply
wanted to shake them silly because they were (in my view of course),
stupid. Sometimes you have to step out of the forum for a bit and then you
remember that posting something of no help to anyone is stupid and bad
policy.

Here in our little online world we need to keep our emotions and our
stupidity in check, just like we do in our normal offline lives (assuming
we all have one), least this little home of ours melts down into pure
chaos and sideshows, and we lose sight of it's purpose, it's daily vision,
which is to provide the best support (and the cheapest) to the Publisher
customer. Period.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com


Brian Kvalheim said:
While I am "technically" not a moderator (nor are the other MVP's), I
have spent the better portion of the last decade in these Microsoft
Publisher newsgroups. It seems that I have become a "fixture". I have
always had a comfort level with these particular groups. I thoroughly
enjoy assisting others, whether they are looking for Publisher help or
stumbled into the wrong group and point them in the right direction (or
even offer to help them with their non-publisher related item).
 
G

Gunilla

Gunilla said:
May I also give the best credit about how well you all here handle this
situation....it made me thinking that MS newsgroups really have dedicated,
nice people who<-Corrected) give what they can, the best they can and that
is always what I have thought this is about when volunteering giving help.
For a while I felt so disappointed after reading, especially the Win XP
groups, as in there some of the contributors have a capability to being
abusive to the so called OP. I have seen lots of such answers from the
very Miss PT, and others too, and it scares me how a person can be so
cold, insensitive and mean.

I am a frequent poster my self in the Swedish newsgroup and would never
even think about being abusive to a poster just because he/she is either
using the wrong terms or grammar or even the wrong Newsgroup as that
happens sometimes that the posters are using the English language instead
which is a sign that they are totally in the wrong NG...I would just point
them to the right direction instead, or give them the answer if I know it.

And yes, as mentioned, we don't know the OP, where they come from and what
experience they may have. One thing I often see and that is that they are
told, in a nasty way, that they should post a request in a NG with their
own language but it is not so obvious they have a NG in their native
language.

Thanks and best regards and keep up the good work and spirit here,

Gunilla.
David Bartosik said:
Well now.

Since I am a long time standing Publisher MVP as well, second only to
Brian, I suppose I will weigh in here with the wisdom that comes with my
age, rather then ignore this sideshow foray as I typically do.

I agree 100% with Brian and his analogy is right on. And yes the MS
Community does not have "moderators". That is why you are free to do and
say as you please. The MVP role is to provide assistance and to have a
recognition by the poster that the response is credible.

I have to add something that I believe everyone overlooks.... we don't
know this poster. But most importantly we don't know what brought them
here. It very well could be someone that has been around and used this
group for some time. And though unrelated a topic it was, they likely
could have posted here simply from a comfort factor. All of us "regulars"
are guilty of that on occasion. Of course we know that the subject should
be prefixed with "OT", but then we are forum savvy.

Handling an OT post depends on context as well. I consider the context of
the question before a response.

Now with this post I would have given an answer to the best of my
knowledge and followed up by informing the poster that this was OT for
this group and if they needed more assistance they needed to repost to
the appropriate forum.

I think the attacking responder in question here is a problem. But then
we all have to learn to live with and deal with people we can't stand
and/or can't agree with. That is the reality of life. With that in mind
my opinion is that the attack on the attacker was un-called for.
Understandable, yes. But sometimes one has to be the better individual. I
believe that the attacking post should have been ignored. And I believe
the attack post on the attacker should have been ignored as well. Though
I can understand the emotions that drove that.

In the end the simple truth is, the attacker was technically correct. And
it's view as an "attack" is our perception. And it's our perception
because we truly believe in what we do. The original poster may have
thought nothing of it. Again, perception.

Since we are human ( I hope) we all have perceptions, emotions, and
degrees of stupidity. Sometimes one should take a breath before writing a
post. Honestly, many times I've wanted to tell a poster how much I simply
wanted to shake them silly because they were (in my view of course),
stupid. Sometimes you have to step out of the forum for a bit and then
you remember that posting something of no help to anyone is stupid and
bad policy.

Here in our little online world we need to keep our emotions and our
stupidity in check, just like we do in our normal offline lives (assuming
we all have one), least this little home of ours melts down into pure
chaos and sideshows, and we lose sight of it's purpose, it's daily
vision, which is to provide the best support (and the cheapest) to the
Publisher customer. Period.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com


Brian Kvalheim said:
While I am "technically" not a moderator (nor are the other MVP's), I
have spent the better portion of the last decade in these Microsoft
Publisher newsgroups. It seems that I have become a "fixture". I have
always had a comfort level with these particular groups. I thoroughly
enjoy assisting others, whether they are looking for Publisher help or
stumbled into the wrong group and point them in the right direction (or
even offer to help them with their non-publisher related item).
 
R

Ron Cohen

Brian, those were the "good old days". Remember the running battles we had
with DA trying to get him to behave. He could really dish it out and while
his postings were often abusive, he could also be very helpful and did give
out some good advise. Somehow I kind of miss him around here. Remember his
favorite lines such as, "failed, incompetent morons on loan from the local
home for mental defectives". He did mellow out considerably before he left.
--
Ron

Microsoft Publisher appeals to a SoHo market and a market of those who are
less computer savy...hence the reason for so many wizards and hand holding
features in Publisher (look forward to even MORE hand holding in Publisher
12 btw).

I honestly thought it was horrible the way David A would treat some of
these people who were new and innocent. Yes, there might be the lazy ones
out there too, but believe me, everyone has a lazy bone in their body.
Nobody is perfect. Assume the best of these people, not the worst.
<snipped>
 
B

Brian Kvalheim [MSFT MVP]

Ron,

You hit the nail on the head. David drew on me. Towards the end, we actually
emailed back and forth, talked personal etc. He even came into the states
and had hoped to meet me, it never went through.

There was a Melissa Oakly, Bryce Milton, Robin, David A you and even a few
more old school regulars (yes, even before David Bartosik crashed the party
:).

I remember David always getting worked up over new release of Publisher. No
matter how many features they added, it would NEVER be Publisher 97. EVER.
There was somethin' about that guy. Overall, I think he was just harmless :)

I'm just glad you are still lurking. Even Robin pokes his head in here once
in awhile. The new Publisher MVP's have been great too. While Mary was an
MVP for another area, she is a welcomed veteran indeed. She is the
image/clipart QUEEN :)

--
Brian Kvalheim
Microsoft Publisher MVP
http://www.publishermvps.com

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights.
 
M

Mike Koewler

Brian,

I always got along with David, even when you two guys were in the middle
of WWIII. I wish a certain lady would e-mail me with the closest address
she has for him.

Mike
 
B

Brian Kvalheim [MSFT MVP]

Mike Koewler wrote:
|| Brian,
||
|| I always got along with David, even when you two guys were in the
|| middle of WWIII. I wish a certain lady would e-mail me with the
|| closest address she has for him.
||
|| Mike
||
|| Brian Kvalheim [MSFT MVP] wrote:
||| Ron,
|||
||| You hit the nail on the head. David drew on me. Towards the end, we
||| actually emailed back and forth, talked personal etc. He even came
||| into the states and had hoped to meet me, it never went through.
|||
||| There was a Melissa Oakly, Bryce Milton, Robin, David A you and
||| even a few more old school regulars (yes, even before David
||| Bartosik crashed the party :).
|||
||| I remember David always getting worked up over new release of
||| Publisher. No matter how many features they added, it would NEVER
||| be Publisher 97. EVER. There was somethin' about that guy. Overall,
||| I think he was just harmless :)
|||
||| I'm just glad you are still lurking. Even Robin pokes his head in
||| here once in awhile. The new Publisher MVP's have been great too.
||| While Mary was an MVP for another area, she is a welcomed veteran
||| indeed. She is the image/clipart QUEEN :)

Are you saying that she hasn't replied to you at all?

--
Brian Kvalheim
Microsoft Publisher MVP
http://www.publishermvps.com

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights.
 
J

JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]

Mary is absolutely awesome. Her knowledge about clip art and graphics issues
just blows me away. Plus she seems to be able to interpret posts that just
make absolutely no sense at all to me.


--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



(snip)
 

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