Including OneNote with Windows Vista

[Adahn]

...instead of the ambiguous Windows Journal?

Why have two [incompatible] programs for the same job? OneNote would be a
great "killer" addition to Vista's set of accessories, even if it is some
cut-down version...

 

[Andre Da Costa]

You are gonna have a hard time getting the Office Team to do such a thing.
What we should be protesting for is Tablet PC manufacturers to include a
full version of OneNote with Tablet PC purchases.
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[Scøtt Lovegrove [ScottIsAFool]]

A lot of Tablets do now

Scøtt
http://wlm.scottisafool.co.uk/

 

[Chris H.]

Hundreds of thousands of trial OneNote versions are already included with
portable computers now, not just Tablet PCs, Andre. How many laptops or
Tablet PCs do you own? How many OEM web sites have you visited to see the
"included software"?
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone -

You are gonna have a hard time getting the Office Team to do such a thing.
What we should be protesting for is Tablet PC manufacturers to include a
full version of OneNote with Tablet PC purchases.
--
--
Andre
Windows Connect | http://www.windowsconnected.com
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http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm

..instead of the ambiguous Windows Journal?

Why have two [incompatible] programs for the same job? OneNote would be a
great "killer" addition to Vista's set of accessories, even if it is some
cut-down version...

 

[Tim O'Neill]

You see I kind of thought it fitted quite well into the Office pack of
cards, especially as now days they stick Infopath in there which is not your
traditional type of Office product.

As a stand alone for around £80 (straight purchase, no VLA) I would question
its' business advantage above a combination of existing products.

and my tablet didn't bother having it there on purchase!

You are gonna have a hard time getting the Office Team to do such a thing.
What we should be protesting for is Tablet PC manufacturers to include a
full version of OneNote with Tablet PC purchases.
--
--
Andre
Windows Connect | http://www.windowsconnected.com
Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm

..instead of the ambiguous Windows Journal?

Why have two [incompatible] programs for the same job? OneNote would be a
great "killer" addition to Vista's set of accessories, even if it is some
cut-down version...

 

[Chris H.]

Which Tablet PC do you have?
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone -

You see I kind of thought it fitted quite well into the Office pack of
cards, especially as now days they stick Infopath in there which is not
your traditional type of Office product.

As a stand alone for around £80 (straight purchase, no VLA) I would
question its' business advantage above a combination of existing products.

and my tablet didn't bother having it there on purchase!

You are gonna have a hard time getting the Office Team to do such a
thing. What we should be protesting for is Tablet PC manufacturers to
include a full version of OneNote with Tablet PC purchases.
--
--
Andre
Windows Connect | http://www.windowsconnected.com
Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm

..instead of the ambiguous Windows Journal?

Why have two [incompatible] programs for the same job? OneNote would be
a great "killer" addition to Vista's set of accessories, even if it is
some cut-down version...

 

[Andre Da Costa]

I said Full Version, not time bomb version.
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Hundreds of thousands of trial OneNote versions are already included with
portable computers now, not just Tablet PCs, Andre. How many laptops or
Tablet PCs do you own? How many OEM web sites have you visited to see the
"included software"?
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone -

You are gonna have a hard time getting the Office Team to do such a
thing. What we should be protesting for is Tablet PC manufacturers to
include a full version of OneNote with Tablet PC purchases.
--
--
Andre
Windows Connect | http://www.windowsconnected.com
Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm

..instead of the ambiguous Windows Journal?

Why have two [incompatible] programs for the same job? OneNote would be
a great "killer" addition to Vista's set of accessories, even if it is
some cut-down version...

 

[Chris H.]

The only difference is one hasn't been paid for yet, and the other has.
Both versions, when activated have all the same features.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone -

I said Full Version, not time bomb version.
--
--
Andre
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http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm

Hundreds of thousands of trial OneNote versions are already included with
portable computers now, not just Tablet PCs, Andre. How many laptops or
Tablet PCs do you own? How many OEM web sites have you visited to see
the "included software"?
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone -

You are gonna have a hard time getting the Office Team to do such a
thing. What we should be protesting for is Tablet PC manufacturers to
include a full version of OneNote with Tablet PC purchases.
--
--
Andre
Windows Connect | http://www.windowsconnected.com
Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
..instead of the ambiguous Windows Journal?

Why have two [incompatible] programs for the same job? OneNote would be
a great "killer" addition to Vista's set of accessories, even if it is
some cut-down version...

 

[NLWard]

Good idea, but I think it's going to stay as an Office app, simply because
it's too valuable to reside in the OS, where it probably wouldn't get much
use.

 

[Andre Da Costa]

But I want the one that runs forever.
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Andre
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FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm

The only difference is one hasn't been paid for yet, and the other has.
Both versions, when activated have all the same features.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone -

I said Full Version, not time bomb version.
--
--
Andre
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FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm

Hundreds of thousands of trial OneNote versions are already included
with portable computers now, not just Tablet PCs, Andre. How many
laptops or Tablet PCs do you own? How many OEM web sites have you
visited to see the "included software"?
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone -


You are gonna have a hard time getting the Office Team to do such a
thing. What we should be protesting for is Tablet PC manufacturers to
include a full version of OneNote with Tablet PC purchases.
--
--
Andre
Windows Connect | http://www.windowsconnected.com
Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
FAQ for MS AntiSpy
http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
..instead of the ambiguous Windows Journal?

Why have two [incompatible] programs for the same job? OneNote would
be a great "killer" addition to Vista's set of accessories, even if it
is some cut-down version...

 

[Adahn]

Good idea, but I think it's going to stay as an Office app, simply because
it's too valuable to reside in the OS, where it probably wouldn't get much
use.

Exactly. Valuable enough to let Vista one-up MacOSX on the merit of
preinstalled apps rather than just playing catch-up..

How about an un-upgradable "Express" edition or something, which, say, only
allows one section, with no sharing, no flag summaries, no research pane
etc. but also tighter integration with Vista-specific stuff, such as the
Search Engine and so on?

This is too good to pass up, MS..

 

[Scøtt Lovegrove [ScottIsAFool]]

An express or baby version could be quite good, similar to what was done
with Outlook/OutlookExpress and Frontpage/Frontpage express.

Scøtt
http://wlm.scottisafool.co.uk/

 

[Chris H.]

Then purchase it at your favorite local retailer.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone -

But I want the one that runs forever.
--
--
Andre
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FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm

The only difference is one hasn't been paid for yet, and the other has.
Both versions, when activated have all the same features.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone -

I said Full Version, not time bomb version.
--
--
Andre
Windows Connect | http://www.windowsconnected.com
Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
Hundreds of thousands of trial OneNote versions are already included
with portable computers now, not just Tablet PCs, Andre. How many
laptops or Tablet PCs do you own? How many OEM web sites have you
visited to see the "included software"?
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone -


You are gonna have a hard time getting the Office Team to do such a
thing. What we should be protesting for is Tablet PC manufacturers to
include a full version of OneNote with Tablet PC purchases.
--
--
Andre
Windows Connect | http://www.windowsconnected.com
Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
FAQ for MS AntiSpy
http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
..instead of the ambiguous Windows Journal?

Why have two [incompatible] programs for the same job? OneNote would
be a great "killer" addition to Vista's set of accessories, even if
it is some cut-down version...

 

[Andre Da Costa [Extended64]]

But I want the full one with a Tablet.
--
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Then purchase it at your favorite local retailer.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone -

But I want the one that runs forever.
--
--
Andre
Windows Connect | http://www.windowsconnected.com
Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm

The only difference is one hasn't been paid for yet, and the other has.
Both versions, when activated have all the same features.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone -


I said Full Version, not time bomb version.
--
--
Andre
Windows Connect | http://www.windowsconnected.com
Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
FAQ for MS AntiSpy
http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
Hundreds of thousands of trial OneNote versions are already included
with portable computers now, not just Tablet PCs, Andre. How many
laptops or Tablet PCs do you own? How many OEM web sites have you
visited to see the "included software"?
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone -


You are gonna have a hard time getting the Office Team to do such a
thing. What we should be protesting for is Tablet PC manufacturers to
include a full version of OneNote with Tablet PC purchases.
--
--
Andre
Windows Connect | http://www.windowsconnected.com
Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
FAQ for MS AntiSpy
http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
..instead of the ambiguous Windows Journal?

Why have two [incompatible] programs for the same job? OneNote would
be a great "killer" addition to Vista's set of accessories, even if
it is some cut-down version...

 

[Tim O'Neill]

Acer Travelmate C300 - it's a bit of a dog!

Which Tablet PC do you have?
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone -

You see I kind of thought it fitted quite well into the Office pack of
cards, especially as now days they stick Infopath in there which is not
your traditional type of Office product.

As a stand alone for around £80 (straight purchase, no VLA) I would
question its' business advantage above a combination of existing
products.

and my tablet didn't bother having it there on purchase!

You are gonna have a hard time getting the Office Team to do such a
thing. What we should be protesting for is Tablet PC manufacturers to
include a full version of OneNote with Tablet PC purchases.
--
--
Andre
Windows Connect | http://www.windowsconnected.com
Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
..instead of the ambiguous Windows Journal?

Why have two [incompatible] programs for the same job? OneNote would be
a great "killer" addition to Vista's set of accessories, even if it is
some cut-down version...

 

[Tim O'Neill]

I think as a small application it should come as part of Office but not free
with the OS.

If we're talking about catching up with OSX then how about an iLife type of
thing with Vista. One of the great selling points of OSX is that out of the
box you've got nearly everything you need - you hardly need to buy software
which is handy seeing as you can't very easily ;-)

And one more point ... Expose (imagine the accent on the 'e') on OSX -
fantastic feature if working in apps like Cubase - any chance of a
derivitive in Vista? One of the best features.

 

[Chris H.]

Have you looked into increasing the RAM? I believe you can go to a gig of
RAM on that unit.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone -

Acer Travelmate C300 - it's a bit of a dog!

Which Tablet PC do you have?
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone -

You see I kind of thought it fitted quite well into the Office pack of
cards, especially as now days they stick Infopath in there which is not
your traditional type of Office product.

As a stand alone for around £80 (straight purchase, no VLA) I would
question its' business advantage above a combination of existing
products.

and my tablet didn't bother having it there on purchase!

You are gonna have a hard time getting the Office Team to do such a
thing. What we should be protesting for is Tablet PC manufacturers to
include a full version of OneNote with Tablet PC purchases.
--
--
Andre
Windows Connect | http://www.windowsconnected.com
Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
FAQ for MS AntiSpy
http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
..instead of the ambiguous Windows Journal?

Why have two [incompatible] programs for the same job? OneNote would
be a great "killer" addition to Vista's set of accessories, even if it
is some cut-down version...

 

[Adahn]

heck, I'd just scrap the current Windows Journal, rename the "ONENOTE" brand
into that, and include it with Vista.

and then have a Windows Live Journal service or something

 

[Tim O'Neill]

It has 1.2GB and to be honest it's not that bad ut it tends to stall quite a
bit and have to catch up to the pen.

The other strange thing though is that with Vista it will on occasion not
see my wireless network at all even though 5 minutes before it did and the
other laptop did.

Have you looked into increasing the RAM? I believe you can go to a gig of
RAM on that unit.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone -

Acer Travelmate C300 - it's a bit of a dog!

Which Tablet PC do you have?
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone -


You see I kind of thought it fitted quite well into the Office pack of
cards, especially as now days they stick Infopath in there which is not
your traditional type of Office product.

As a stand alone for around £80 (straight purchase, no VLA) I would
question its' business advantage above a combination of existing
products.

and my tablet didn't bother having it there on purchase!

You are gonna have a hard time getting the Office Team to do such a
thing. What we should be protesting for is Tablet PC manufacturers to
include a full version of OneNote with Tablet PC purchases.
--
--
Andre
Windows Connect | http://www.windowsconnected.com
Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
FAQ for MS AntiSpy
http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
..instead of the ambiguous Windows Journal?

Why have two [incompatible] programs for the same job? OneNote would
be a great "killer" addition to Vista's set of accessories, even if
it is some cut-down version...

 

[Chris H.]

Windows Journal is a Tablet PC-only application, while OneNote can run on a
Tablet PC (with full Ink support), a laptop or desktop.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone -

heck, I'd just scrap the current Windows Journal, rename the "ONENOTE"
brand into that, and include it with Vista.

and then have a Windows Live Journal service or something

..instead of the ambiguous Windows Journal?

Why have two [incompatible] programs for the same job? OneNote would be a
great "killer" addition to Vista's set of accessories, even if it is some
cut-down version...