Is Front Page part of any MS Office Suite?

[Mama Bear]

I'd recoomend you invest in the money and the time to learn
Dreamweaver if you want professional results, and use CSS.

Sounds like a wise idea.

But for right now, I need to start selling some products online and need
to get them out there. The learning curve for DW could take some months.

An
cheaper alternative would be to just get a CSS template and read
about them on the net to learn how to edit them manually without
using a program like Dreamweaver.

Hmm. ok.

 

[Mama Bear]

Mama Bear -

I think you need to do some reading on what makes for a good website
and what doesn't. Anyone can learn a program but not everyone can
create an attractive site. You have less than 10 seconds to capture
someone's attention. Most of us have seen sites that are so
gawd-awful ugly that we don't care what the site says.

Do your first layout with pencil and paper then figure out how to do
it with whatever program you decide to use. (I'm a FrontPage user
myself.)

Thanks.

 

[Mama Bear]

Look guys, if I just wanna start selling some simple single products on my
web pages and make some money ASAP, what about just using a page as simple
as http://www.AerobicSelfDefenseClubsOfAmerica.com/
or
http://www.PlanetaryBillOfRights.org/
?

Someone showed me a Paypal shopping cart product at
https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_wp-standard-overview-outside
and they just give you code for items that you plug into the web page.

Then if I want to get fancier later, I can go take the course in
Dreamweaver downtown, but at least I'll be making some money to hold me
over.

Plan?

 

[Margolotta]

First I'd have to learn what CSS even was.

Cascading/Cascaded Style Sheets (now tell me why you couldn't have STFW to
have learnt that yourself?)

 

[Margolotta]

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BUTT=0D=0A> BREATH me why you couldn't have FUCKING WHORE DUMBBELL SHUT=
UP=0D=0A> ARSE-GOBLIN TART STFW to have learnt that FUCKING SHITTER KNOB=
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[Margolotta]

I understand that Dreamweaver costs hundreds of dollars though.

I see Front Page 2003 for $65.

That sounds like an upgrade price to me. Obviously, you cannot purchase an
upgrade without owning a previous version. Do you have a older version to use
as a qualifying product?

Please be aware that MS has now discontinued FP - 2003 is the end of the
line.

 

[Synapse Syndrome]

Cascading/Cascaded Style Sheets (now tell me why you couldn't have STFW to
have learnt that yourself?)

I suppose that is the full extent of your knowledge on CSS. Well done.

ss.

 

[Rob Giordano \(Crash\)]

In either case...you're not gonna tackle designing a shopping cart
anyway...so find out what kind of shopping cart works with your server
first.


|
| > I'd recoomend you invest in the money and the time to learn
| > Dreamweaver if you want professional results, and use CSS.
|
| Sounds like a wise idea.
|
| But for right now, I need to start selling some products online and need
| to get them out there. The learning curve for DW could take some months.
|
| > An
| > cheaper alternative would be to just get a CSS template and read
| > about them on the net to learn how to edit them manually without
| > using a program like Dreamweaver.
|
| Hmm. ok.
|
|
|
| --
| - Mama Bear

 

[Rob Giordano \(Crash\)]

It's early public beta. Try it to try it, but maybe not use it for a
production site...beta is beta.
(It's great btw!)

more here: microsoft.public.expression.webdesigner newsgroup

|
| >
| > | >>I need to learn how to do professional quality web pages from home.
| >>
| >> Is Front Page part of any MS Office Suite?
| >>
| >> I was thinking that maybe I could pick it all up at once.
| >
| >
| > I don't think so, at least in the UK editions.
| >
| > However, Dreamweaver is a lot better if you are serious about
| > webdesign, but it has a steeper learning curve. I'm not sure if
| > there will be a new version with Office 2007, which is about to be
| > realeased. I think MS is replacing it with the much improved
| > Microsoft Expression Web Designer , but it still won't be as good as
| > Dreamweaver.
| >
| > http://www.microsoft.com/products/expression/en/web_designer/default.m
| > spx
| >
| > ss.
|
| That looks interesting. Is it even released yet? Looks like it's not but
| they're letting people try it for free and report back to them. Beta
| testing?
|
|
|
|
| --
| - Mama Bear

 

[JoAnn Paules [MVP]]

I thought the same thing but no, that's the going price at Amazon.com. I'm
sure it's due to the new program future release.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

 

[Mama Bear]

That sounds like an upgrade price to me.

Nope, I found full versions on Ebay for $65 with mailing.

 

[Leythos]

Screw you, trollboy. A tool is only as good as its author. All you do is
troll these newsgroups with your bitter bile.

I used to wonder why you would hang out in MS newsgroups to bash MS
products. But, I know you have absolutely no life, no friends, no nothing.

If you can't dispute what I wrote then you're the one trolling. Since
you've never coded anything, based on your response, what can you show
us?

Oh, and I don't bash MS products, except for FP, as I make a lot of
money installing and maintaining MS products for corporations.

 

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Look guys, if I just wanna start selling some simple single products
on my web pages and make some money ASAP, what about just using a
page as simple as http://www.AerobicSelfDefenseClubsOfAmerica.com/
or
http://www.PlanetaryBillOfRights.org/
?

Those sites are .. um .. how do I say this politely .. not good business
models. They are just flashy personal amateur pages.

If you are serious about wanting to sell on the WWW, you do need to find
a professional design. Overly bold centered text, justified text, with
an abundance of heavy graphics, will turn almost any buyer away.

Those two sites are very hard to read. I gave up trying to follow
planetarybillofrights long before I ever got to Article 1.

People don't open up a web store and make money "ASAP". It is a rough
business.

 

[JoAnn Paules [MVP]]

Never buy software from eBay! Amazon.com has it for $64 and it's completely
legal.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

 

[Echo S]

Please don't laugh too hard. Yes, I know I need some skills and
learning, that's why I'm asking.

Sounds like the right approach to me.

You might want to check into GoDaddy. It's inexpensive hosting, and they
offer shopping carts and some easy site setup. That way you could get your
stuff up there and then take your time learning whichever web app you want.

 

[Blinky the Shark]

I need to learn how to do professional quality web pages from home.

Then don't use FP.

 

[Blinky the Shark]

The problem is that I can't afford much, I'm poor right now. But I want
to be able to sell online and need something with frames at least,

http://www.html-faq.com/htmlframes/?framesareevil

 

[Meat Plow]

I need to learn how to do professional quality web pages from home.

Is Front Page part of any MS Office Suite?

I was thinking that maybe I could pick it all up at once.

It's included in the Standard edition. I use the Student edition and it's
not part of it not that i would use it anyway.

 

[Rob Giordano \(Crash\)]

FrontPage is *not* included in Office 2003 (any addition) - you have to buy
it separately.



| On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 16:59:53 -0500, Mama Bear wrote:
|
| > I need to learn how to do professional quality web pages from home.
| >
| > Is Front Page part of any MS Office Suite?
| >
| > I was thinking that maybe I could pick it all up at once.
|
| It's included in the Standard edition. I use the Student edition and it's
| not part of it not that i would use it anyway.
|
| --
| COOSN-266-06-25794
|
| Pierre Salinger Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker, June 2004

 

[Gary G. Taylor]

Can people who can work in Dreamweaver make decent money with it? If so,
it might be worth the investment.

Would you please LISTEN TO WHAT PEOPLE ARE TELLING YOU?

**NONE** of the WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get) applications will
fully (or even partially) serve your needs, for two reasons:

1) They introduce bloated, nonessential elements into your HTML code that
might stymie some browsers and cause them to show your pages inaccurately.

2) If you are attempting to make a living writing web pages, the mere
sight of one of these applications' name in the headers of your HTML will
cause potential customers to laugh out loud and find someone else.

The **ONLY** solution is to QUIT IGNORING WHAT WE ARE TELLING YOU AND
LEARN HTML YOURSELF, you lazy bint!

Shee!