is using 'black pr' to moderate forums moral?

[Harlan Grove]

(e-mail address removed) wrote...

of course it requires permissions

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Meaning not everyone would be able to do it.

1) RunApp - yeah macros - simple single line, multiple choice macros--
big friggin deal

Granted, though Access macros can run malicious code.

2) scheduled jobs - some users can do this; it's easy to keep secure.
it's easy to give permissions to certain functionality. Can Excel give
different permissions to different users? NOT REALLY LOL

How many organizations would give new database users the ability to
schedule *any* jobs right away?

3) 'but windows iteself is multitasking' gag me with a spoon. It's
easy to configure how many threads are running at the same time; etc.

Access is multithreading? Since when? If you mean SQL Server is
multithreading, fine, say so. And multithreading doesn't mean the
ability to run multiple processes. You had used the term 'processes'
before. Processes aren't threads. Which do you really mean?

4) Launching multiple instances of Access or Excel? I thnk that is too
technical for you lol

You mean because it'd be EXACTLY THE SAME for Access as for Excel you
want to downplay it?

5) 4 part server.database.owner (aka schema in 2005).object

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Using VBA, so again possible in the same way in Excel, i.e., via
Automation.

you forget -- the bottom line-- is that Excel VBA is inherently
insecure... and Access is inherently secure.

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You've failed to prove that. VBA is VBA. There's nothing in the Excel
object model itself that's dangerous. It's the other stuff that could
be run from VBA that's dangerous. With regard to spreading viruses, it
requires automating the Visual Basic Project for each file. Guess what?
Access can do that just like Excel.

Access lacks the automatically executing macros that Excel has, e.g.,
Workbook_Open and Autpen. However, all it takes is one udf called
from every form, report and query to run malicious VBA code. Meaning
it's only really safe to run Access databases that contain only tables.

from the horses mouth

Wrong end.

 

[Harlan Grove]

(e-mail address removed) wrote...

yes Access Macros can be mis-used.. of course they can
that is why Access prompts you about sandbox mode when you open it.

Just like Excel! Imagine that!

Macro security settings are common to all Office applications.

but the sheer count of threats? Excel VBA vs Access VBA?

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Is related to the sheer numbers of Excel vs Access users. Excel
presents a much bigger targer because so many more people use it. If
you actually convince many Excel users to switch to Access, you'll make
Access a bigger target.

Don't bother to argue with the authority on the subject.

Who'd that be?

and im not sure I agree with your findings on MDB and ADP; and whether
you can email them.

Test it yourself.

Did you email FROM HOTMAIL TO HOTMAIL?

Nope. From Hotmail to my Lotus Notes account at work, to my AOL
account, to my ISP e-mail account and to another free e-mail account.
All worked. Hotmail only grumbled, but it sent the files.

Did you use the Outlook Connector for sending hotmail through outlook??

Nope. Straight from the browser.

Did your files have VBA in them?
Did they have macros?

Yes to both. The VBA code was

Sub foo()
MsgBox "So Aaron's wrong again . . . big surprise!"
End Sub

 

[Wayne-I-M]

I have not read your post - only the title
But
Is this not exactly what you trying to do ?

 

[aaron.kempf]

no.. it is what these other idiots are doing.

It's funny.. I've accomplished more on this newsgroups than I could
have possibly imagined-- so yes; it has been quite effective for me.

but you kids sit around and throw around words and it's like.. you kids
just can't build a coherent argument.

your logic, your architecture is flawed.

MDB is for BABIES.
XLS is for BABIES.

neener-neener, neener
you kids have no weiner

 

[dbahooker]

of course I mean SQL.

Access without SQL is just plain stupid.

not as stupid as having 300 different copies of the same spreadsheet


-Aaron

 

[dbahooker]

dude it is NOT related to the sheer count or Excel USERS vs Access
USERS.

it might be related to the count of Excel DOCUMENTS vs Access
APPLICATIONS.

but I know of hundreds of people that sit around and type shit into
Access. it's only a handlful of apps.

on the other hand; you got 2 people writing in a spreadsheet and then
you need to merge them by hand/?

hahahahahahaha

rofl spreadsheet dorks are silly