Licence on two computers....

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Zadig Galbaras

Hi....

Can I install my MS Office 2007 Standard version on two computers I own
myself, without violating the EULA?

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Regards
Zadig Galbaras
(nick)
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Gordon

Zadig Galbaras said:
Hi....

Can I install my MS Office 2007 Standard version on two computers I own
myself, without violating the EULA?
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Dunno. Why not read your EULA and find out.....
 
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Dave Jones

Gordon said:
Dunno. Why not read your EULA and find out.....
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of the 3,000,000,000 computer users in the world there are 3 that have
read the EULA, including you...if you have an answer, answer, if you
don't, don't...IMO of course
 
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Val

In an effort to raise the total to 4, I think Gordon's response was correct.
The OP mentioned the EULA, so he seems to be aware that it may have
limitations. For any particular version of Office suites, varying answers
exist.

In the event that no copy of the software has yet been installed, thus
making it hard to view the EULA, here's where they ALL can be found:

http://www.microsoft.com/about/legal/useterms/default.aspx


Gordon said:
Dunno. Why not read your EULA and find out.....
Click to expand...
of the 3,000,000,000 computer users in the world there are 3 that have
read the EULA, including you...if you have an answer, answer, if you
don't, don't...IMO of course
 
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Dave Jones

Val said:
In an effort to raise the total to 4, I think Gordon's response was correct.
The OP mentioned the EULA, so he seems to be aware that it may have
limitations. For any particular version of Office suites, varying answers
exist.
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how 'bout "we need more info to answer your question"? I've been making
a living in front of a computer since '88 and have never read the EULA
for any program that I have ever installed although I might dig one up
tonight to make the total 5 of us. I think I'll make it the AutoCAD
EULA, that oughta be fun :)
 
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Dave Jones

JoAnn said:
Make it 5 and 6. My husband and I both have.
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just out of curiosity, why would one read a EULA? Seems to me, in my
limited knowledge of such things, that those that would have to read one
would be looking to circumvent it's direction (just an opinion and I'm
certainly not accusing you or anyone else in this thread of such
things)...or would need to by some job requirement. I'm one of those
weird people (self employed) that doesn't pirate software, pays for
shareware, and generally knows the way "it should be". My Mother did her
job early on. When I buy an expensive (or any) program I've done my
homework and know what the rules are...one of the reasons I lurk here is
to have some knowledge of all of the various MS idiosyncrasies involved
with MS Office Suites, and boy there are a bunch of those. But, after
having purchased and installed Office Pro 2007 a couple of months
ago...I didn't read the EULA. Go figure :)
Dave
DDP
 
V

Val

just out of curiosity, why would one read a EULA? Seems to me, in my
limited knowledge of such things, that those that would have to read one
would be looking to circumvent it's direction (just an opinion and I'm
certainly not accusing you or anyone else in this thread of such
things)...or would need to by some job requirement. I'm one of those
weird people (self employed) that doesn't pirate software, pays for
shareware, and generally knows the way "it should be". My Mother did her
job early on. When I buy an expensive (or any) program I've done my
homework and know what the rules are...one of the reasons I lurk here is
to have some knowledge of all of the various MS idiosyncrasies involved
with MS Office Suites, and boy there are a bunch of those. But, after
having purchased and installed Office Pro 2007 a couple of months
ago...I didn't read the EULA. Go figure :)
Dave
DDP

Why? To know what the EULA you've paid for and agreed to allows you to do.
There are many variations, even within MS family of products.

Ferinstance: A retail version of an Office Standard suite may be transfered
to a third party by the original purchaser. That is, if you bought it off
the shelf, you can sell it to someone else, but that person is stuck with it
till the end of time. Of course, you must have unistalled all instances of
it from your computer(s) (pop quiz - how many could you have intalled to?)
On the other hand, the Home and Student (or Student and Teacher) version
does not allow for transfer to a third party. You bought it, you gotta keep
it.


Val
 
V

Val

There's one that didn't read the EULA.

From the Office Standard 2007 EULA
"2. INSTALLATION AND USE RIGHTS. Before you use the software under a
license,
you must assign that license to one device. That device is the "licensed
device." A hardware partition or blade is considered to be a separate
device.
a. Licensed Device. You may install and use one copy of the software on the
licensed device.
b. Portable Device. You may install another copy on a portable device for
use by the single primary user of the licensed device."


Office 2007 Standard is 1 install for 1 computer only.
 
G

Gordon

Dave Jones said:
just out of curiosity, why would one read a EULA?
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I read the Eula for MY version of Office just to make sure I COULD install
it on one desktop and one laptop - that's WHY.
 
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Peter Foldes

Yes I did. The OP was talking about 2 Desktops.

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Peter

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Val said:
There's one that didn't read the EULA.

From the Office Standard 2007 EULA
"2. INSTALLATION AND USE RIGHTS. Before you use the software under a
license,
you must assign that license to one device. That device is the "licensed
device." A hardware partition or blade is considered to be a separate
device.
a. Licensed Device. You may install and use one copy of the software on the
licensed device.
b. Portable Device. You may install another copy on a portable device for
use by the single primary user of the licensed device."


Office 2007 Standard is 1 install for 1 computer only.
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G

Gordon

Peter Foldes said:
Yes I did. The OP was talking about 2 Desktops.
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Two COMPUTERS was the phrase used. The inference that that is two DESKTOPS
is a bit tenuous.....
 
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Dave Jones

Gordon said:
I read the Eula for MY version of Office just to make sure I COULD install
it on one desktop and one laptop - that's WHY.
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I wasn't trying to be argumentative, just asking a question...I use
AutoCAD for a living. I've got a copy of a single license installed on
my desktop computer and my laptop. How did I know that I could do that?
I went to the autodesk.autocad ng and asked, and received several
helpful replies, one of which was from the Autodesk Legal Dept.

which was the point of my original post in this thread...
 
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Dave Jones

Val wrote:
(snip)
Why? To know what the EULA you've paid for and agreed to allows you to do.
There are many variations, even within MS family of products.
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true, and that's a good explanation. But it doesn't apply to me. I only
use one variation of MS Office and there's only me here so there's not
much for me to learn, or need to know, from the EULA. Like the original
poster, I would have asked a question here had I needed to know
something about the legalities, and would have expected a helpful
answer. I see many posts every day here that could be answered with
"read the EULA" but they are not. The OP's get helpful answers from
knowledgeable people.
 
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Beth Melton

The problem is that with each version and suite of Office the EULA becomes
more complex. Office 2007 has several different types such as, Retail, MLK
(Media-less License Kit), Academic, and perhaps OEM (I've been told what was
previously OEM is now MLK), Home Rights User, volume license, and who knows
if I'm missing any others, which makes licensing anything but clear cut.

At one time we could provide specifics on the ins and outs based on whether
the purchase was through a retailer or if it was preinstalled (OEM). Now we
can't. For example the OP may have purchased a new computer with a trial
version of Office 2007 installed. If a license was purchased and the trial
was converted to a perpetual license then they have a MLK version which is
licensed only to the computer in which the trial version was installed and
is non transferrable. It's also possible that instead of purchasing the
perpetual license for the installed trial version they purchased a perpetual
license through a retailer which makes it a retail version which is another
scenario.

In light of all of the confusion surrounding licensing of Office 2007 I know
I wouldn't feel right about offering advice on legalities. The safest advice
is to consult your EULA.

Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for
assistance by email cannot be acknowledged.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP

Coauthor of Word 2007 Inside Out:
http://www.microsoft.com/MSPress/books/9801.aspx#AboutTheBook

Word FAQ: http://mvps.org/word
TechTrax eZine: http://mousetrax.com/techtrax/
MVP FAQ site: http://mvps.org/
 
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Peter Foldes

Gordon

After posting in newsgroups for the good part of 20 years you get a certain experience with OP's questions and issues

They would generally mention desktop and laptop(depending on the term the write) When not mentioned it is presumed as 2 Desktops as will be the case here most probably.
 
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Gordon

Peter Foldes said:
Gordon
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After posting in newsgroups for the good part of 20 years you get a
certain experience with OP's questions and issues
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Newsgroups weren't AROUND in 1987...BBS were....

They would generally mention desktop and laptop(depending on the term the
write) When not mentioned it is presumed as 2 Desktops as will be the case
here > most probably.
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Might have done ten years ago - now with laptops replacing desktops in many
organisations the terms are becoming more and more interchangeable - and
both are computers are they not?

PS. Why when I reply to your posts does OE not put in the ">" on each line?
Your posts are the only ones that happens to. Are you posting in a strange
type of format?
 
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Dave Jones

thank you Beth, that pretty much explains why I should continue lurking
and stay out of conversations that don't concern me :)
Dave
 

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