Master/sub document header issues

[Walipala]

I've split several documents into master/sub documents (as a custome
requirement). I was wonding if anyone can help me with this littl
problem:

I cannot update the sub docs' header information---doc version number
release date---from the master document. While all sub docs are opene
in the master, the headers in all sections appear correct. However
when I open the sub docs by themselves they show different, outdate
information. I've been having to change the headers in each sub do
separately, which is getting old.

I've tried unlocking all the sub docs in outline view prior to editin
their headers, as well as making sure all section headers are "same a
previous", but that did not work. Why is it I can easily an
perminently edit regular page content in the expanded master, but no
the headers/footers

 

[Word Heretic]

G'day Walipala <<[email protected]>>,

Because the master overrides the sub-documents settings. There is also
nothing you can do about it.

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[Walipala]

Would it help if I mentioned I am running Word 2000 on an XP
Professional machine?

 

[Graham Mayor]

Not much, and see -
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/General/WhyMasterDocsCorrupt.htm

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[Word Heretic]

G'day Walipala <<[email protected]>>,

As the article Graham mentions is incredibly biased and narrow minded,
as well as being of no use to those of us forced into using Masters
for any of a number of reasons, you can also see:

http://www.raycomm.com/techwhirl/magazine/technical/wordhomepage.html


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[Charles Kenyon]

I don't find the article to be "incredibly biased" in that Master Documents
is a flawed feature. That it can be used at all, by following strict
guidelines, doesn't mean that it generally should be used. In this case, a
client required use of the Master Document feature. My first task would be
to attempt to explore with the client the ramifications of this and the
possibility of losing a tremendous amount of work because someone did not
follow guidelines for use. I would explore doing it in another way with the
client and if the client insisted, get a clear waiver from the client. But
then, I'm a lawyer.

 

[Word Heretic]

G'day "Charles Kenyon" <[email protected]>,

If that is true Charles, please show one line of that article that
explains how to use the feature. An article explaining that the
feature is broken is only of so much use to the users. Thus it is a
very one-sided argument.

Matter of fact, we could discuss the MVP feedback on many of my
article submissions: No Dolly Step Instructions, doesn't address the
audiences needs etc Funnily enough, I feel most of these apply to this
Master's article.

My analogy is this: Why not replace the whole MVP FAQ with "Word is
broken in many places, don't use it, use FrameMaker". It would be of
just as much help as that Master's article is...

Now, when you, Charles, posts a masters answer, there's a ref to the
MVP article and a ref to mine. Users can thus make up their own mind
instead of having someones dogma forcibly rammed down their throat,
which is why I never arc up at your replies.


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Charles Kenyon reckoned:

 

[Walipala]

*G'day Walipala <<[email protected]>>,

Because the master overrides the sub-documents settings. There i
also
nothing you can do about it.

Steve Hudson - Word Heretic

*

But if the master overrides the subs' settings, shouldn't a change t
the master automatically be reflected in the sub docs? This is exactl
what ISN'T occuring. Changes I make to the master's header only appea
to take effect in the subs when they are expanded in the master doc
When I later open the subs individually, they contain the old header.

Actually, after reading through your page on master documents (the Te
Rules), I am inclined to stay the hell away from making any changes t
the subs via the master. I've already run into trouble once when
tried deleting some of those annoying section breaks and wandered int
what felt like quicksand. Luckily I am using VSS, so I just 'undid' m
checkout, gladly loosing all of my changes

 

[Word Heretic]

G'day Walipala <<[email protected]>>,

No, it overrides, not OVERWRITES. It completely IGNORES the H&F in the
subs. They are irrelevant. If set so, it completely ignores the style
definitions in the subs. They are irrelevant. You can edit a style
from the master and it won't affect the subs themselves. This is
usually desirable.

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