Migrating from Visio 2002 on XP to Vista 64

[Jazzeur_Visio]

Up to last week I was happily using Visio 2002 on my XP computer, which I had
installed as an upgrade from Visio 5.

Since I moved to a Vista x64 computer, nothing works anymore; i.e. cannot
install Visio 2002 on my new computer.

Any cheap suggestions out there??

 

[Paul Herber]

Up to last week I was happily using Visio 2002 on my XP computer, which I had
installed as an upgrade from Visio 5.

Since I moved to a Vista x64 computer, nothing works anymore; i.e. cannot
install Visio 2002 on my new computer.

What does the installation do? Any error message?

 

[Jazzeur]

What does the installation do? Any error message?

When I attempt to set-up my Visio 2002 (upgrade) on my Vista computer, I get
a message that it did not find a previous version of Visio on my computer.
When I attempt to install Visio 5 on my computer (to satisfy that
requirement), I get the message that this software cannot be installed on
Vista.

Usually when you have an upgrade situation, you just have to insert your
genuine CD (i.e. version 5) for a brief moment and the installation continues
with the upgrade. The peculiarity of Visio 2002 is that it insists that a
previous version should already be installed.

I'd appreciate any help,

 

[Barb Way]

Visio 5 might have installed on Vista 32-bit, but it won't install at all
on Vista 64-bit (I tried as well). As Paul said, Visio 2002 Upgrade did
not permit the scanning of media as an upgrade method, it required the
actual bits to be on the system.

You could setup a Windows XP virtual machine on your Vista system using the
free downloadable Virtual PC
(http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=en&FamilyID=04d
26402-3199-48a3-afa2-2dc0b40a73b6). Please note that this does not contain
a license for Windows XP, so you must still have a valid Windows XP license
in order to set it up.


Barb Way
Product Support - Visio
Microsoft Corporation
[This posting is provided "As Is" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.]
--------------------

What does the installation do? Any error message?

When I attempt to set-up my Visio 2002 (upgrade) on my Vista computer, I
get
a message that it did not find a previous version of Visio on my computer.
When I attempt to install Visio 5 on my computer (to satisfy that
requirement), I get the message that this software cannot be installed on
Vista.

Usually when you have an upgrade situation, you just have to insert your
genuine CD (i.e. version 5) for a brief moment and the installation
continues
with the upgrade. The peculiarity of Visio 2002 is that it insists that a
previous version should already be installed.

I'd appreciate any help,

 

[Jazzeur]

Hi Barb,

Interesting suggestion. However, thanks to my lack of computer literacy, I
have a a couple of questions:
1) will this virtual PC work on a 64 bit machine?
2) if so, my genuine Windows XP license is for a 32 bit machine; would that
setup work?
3) are there some directives that provide step-by-step instructions to
implement your suggestions?

Thank you, you are my only hope,


Guy

----------------------------------------------------------

Visio 5 might have installed on Vista 32-bit, but it won't install at all
on Vista 64-bit (I tried as well). As Paul said, Visio 2002 Upgrade did
not permit the scanning of media as an upgrade method, it required the
actual bits to be on the system.

You could setup a Windows XP virtual machine on your Vista system using the
free downloadable Virtual PC
(http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=en&FamilyID=04d
26402-3199-48a3-afa2-2dc0b40a73b6). Please note that this does not contain
a license for Windows XP, so you must still have a valid Windows XP license
in order to set it up.


Barb Way
Product Support - Visio
Microsoft Corporation
[This posting is provided "As Is" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.]
--------------------

What does the installation do? Any error message?

When I attempt to set-up my Visio 2002 (upgrade) on my Vista computer, I
get
a message that it did not find a previous version of Visio on my computer.
When I attempt to install Visio 5 on my computer (to satisfy that
requirement), I get the message that this software cannot be installed on
Vista.

Usually when you have an upgrade situation, you just have to insert your
genuine CD (i.e. version 5) for a brief moment and the installation
continues
with the upgrade. The peculiarity of Visio 2002 is that it insists that a
previous version should already be installed.

I'd appreciate any help,

 

[AlEdlund]

Will it work on x64 - yes
Can you load xp on it - yes
The virtual pc documentation is quite complete...

virtual pc does not equal physical pc, there are functions (like access to
usb devices, vga support only, etc.) that do not work so it is not a
replacement. However I use it for some vendor stuff that did not come over
(Lotus products).

al

Hi Barb,

Interesting suggestion. However, thanks to my lack of computer literacy, I
have a a couple of questions:
1) will this virtual PC work on a 64 bit machine?
2) if so, my genuine Windows XP license is for a 32 bit machine; would
that
setup work?
3) are there some directives that provide step-by-step instructions to
implement your suggestions?

Thank you, you are my only hope,


Guy

----------------------------------------------------------

Visio 5 might have installed on Vista 32-bit, but it won't install at all
on Vista 64-bit (I tried as well). As Paul said, Visio 2002 Upgrade did
not permit the scanning of media as an upgrade method, it required the
actual bits to be on the system.

You could setup a Windows XP virtual machine on your Vista system using
the
free downloadable Virtual PC
(http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=en&FamilyID=04d
26402-3199-48a3-afa2-2dc0b40a73b6). Please note that this does not
contain
a license for Windows XP, so you must still have a valid Windows XP
license
in order to set it up.


Barb Way
Product Support - Visio
Microsoft Corporation
[This posting is provided "As Is" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.]
--------------------

What does the installation do? Any error message?

When I attempt to set-up my Visio 2002 (upgrade) on my Vista computer, I
get
a message that it did not find a previous version of Visio on my
computer.
When I attempt to install Visio 5 on my computer (to satisfy that
requirement), I get the message that this software cannot be installed on
Vista.

Usually when you have an upgrade situation, you just have to insert your
genuine CD (i.e. version 5) for a brief moment and the installation
continues
with the upgrade. The peculiarity of Visio 2002 is that it insists that a
previous version should already be installed.

I'd appreciate any help,

 

[Jazzeur]

Many thanks Barb and Al,

I'll have to reflect on this and consider what will be possible and what
won't with this kind of arrangement.

I'll let you know.

Thank you for all your time and efforts to help me,


Guy

--------

Will it work on x64 - yes
Can you load xp on it - yes
The virtual pc documentation is quite complete...

virtual pc does not equal physical pc, there are functions (like access to
usb devices, vga support only, etc.) that do not work so it is not a
replacement. However I use it for some vendor stuff that did not come over
(Lotus products).

al

Hi Barb,

Interesting suggestion. However, thanks to my lack of computer literacy, I
have a a couple of questions:
1) will this virtual PC work on a 64 bit machine?
2) if so, my genuine Windows XP license is for a 32 bit machine; would
that
setup work?
3) are there some directives that provide step-by-step instructions to
implement your suggestions?

Thank you, you are my only hope,


Guy

----------------------------------------------------------

Visio 5 might have installed on Vista 32-bit, but it won't install at all
on Vista 64-bit (I tried as well). As Paul said, Visio 2002 Upgrade did
not permit the scanning of media as an upgrade method, it required the
actual bits to be on the system.

You could setup a Windows XP virtual machine on your Vista system using
the
free downloadable Virtual PC
(http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=en&FamilyID=04d
26402-3199-48a3-afa2-2dc0b40a73b6). Please note that this does not
contain
a license for Windows XP, so you must still have a valid Windows XP
license
in order to set it up.


Barb Way
Product Support - Visio
Microsoft Corporation
[This posting is provided "As Is" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.]
--------------------

:


What does the installation do? Any error message?


--
Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd.

When I attempt to set-up my Visio 2002 (upgrade) on my Vista computer, I
get
a message that it did not find a previous version of Visio on my
computer.
When I attempt to install Visio 5 on my computer (to satisfy that
requirement), I get the message that this software cannot be installed on
Vista.

Usually when you have an upgrade situation, you just have to insert your
genuine CD (i.e. version 5) for a brief moment and the installation
continues
with the upgrade. The peculiarity of Visio 2002 is that it insists that a
previous version should already be installed.

I'd appreciate any help,

 

[Barb Way]

Al is quite correct - there are things that don't work in the Virtual
machine, such as USB (other than mouse/input devices and keyboards). The
video support is pretty good, I certainly don't find it limiting - and get
resolutions up to 1280 x 1024 just fine. You can download Virtual PC 2007
from here :
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=en&FamilyID=04d2
6402-3199-48a3-afa2-2dc0b40a73b6

And yes, you can run Virtual PC 2007 on x64 machines, that's what I'm using
right now. As to guest OS - they can *ONLY* be 32-bit, even though you
have a 64-bit host, so you can do what you describe.

I have used Virtual PC on my Vista x64 laptop to deliver workshops, and
with the 4GB of memory, have easily run two virtual machines (one with
Windows Server 2003 and one with Windows XP) at the same time One of
the nicer features is that you can set up a "Shared Folder" from your
physical computer to the virtual computer. T

One note of warning - the recent release of Windows 7 "Release Candidate"
and the "Windows XP Mode" can cause some confusion regarding Virtual PC.
The VPC7 (currently in beta) version of Virtual PC is going to be only for
Windows 7, and will not (ever) run on Vista. The VPC 2007 version, which
you get at the link above, is for Vista and Windows XP. There are some
news releases and technical discussions around VPC7 which do not apply to
Virtual PC 2007, so watch out for confusing items! I find that searching
web sites for "VPC 2007" works pretty well.

Hope you have fun!


Barb Way
Product Support - Visio
Microsoft Corporation
[This posting is provided "As Is" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.]
--------------------

Many thanks Barb and Al,

I'll have to reflect on this and consider what will be possible and what
won't with this kind of arrangement.

I'll let you know.

Thank you for all your time and efforts to help me,


Guy

--------

Will it work on x64 - yes
Can you load xp on it - yes
The virtual pc documentation is quite complete...

virtual pc does not equal physical pc, there are functions (like access to
usb devices, vga support only, etc.) that do not work so it is not a
replacement. However I use it for some vendor stuff that did not come over
(Lotus products).

al

Hi Barb,

Interesting suggestion. However, thanks to my lack of computer literacy, I
have a a couple of questions:
1) will this virtual PC work on a 64 bit machine?
2) if so, my genuine Windows XP license is for a 32 bit machine; would
that
setup work?
3) are there some directives that provide step-by-step instructions to
implement your suggestions?

Thank you, you are my only hope,


Guy

----------------------------------------------------------

Visio 5 might have installed on Vista 32-bit, but it won't install at all
on Vista 64-bit (I tried as well). As Paul said, Visio 2002 Upgrade did
not permit the scanning of media as an upgrade method, it required the
actual bits to be on the system.

You could setup a Windows XP virtual machine on your Vista system using
the
free downloadable Virtual PC
(http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=en&FamilyID=04d
26402-3199-48a3-afa2-2dc0b40a73b6). Please note that this does not
contain
a license for Windows XP, so you must still have a valid Windows XP
license
in order to set it up.


Barb Way
Product Support - Visio
Microsoft Corporation
[This posting is provided "As Is" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.]
--------------------

:


What does the installation do? Any error message?


--
Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd.

When I attempt to set-up my Visio 2002 (upgrade) on my Vista computer, I
get
a message that it did not find a previous version of Visio on my
computer.
When I attempt to install Visio 5 on my computer (to satisfy that
requirement), I get the message that this software cannot be installed on
Vista.

Usually when you have an upgrade situation, you just have to insert your
genuine CD (i.e. version 5) for a brief moment and the installation
continues
with the upgrade. The peculiarity of Visio 2002 is that it insists that a
previous version should already be installed.

I'd appreciate any help,