Office 2007

[bkovacs]

So why didn't Office 2007 technical beta testers get a free copy of Office
2007 for submitting bugs like Vista beta testers got a free copy of Vista
Ultimate??. This is just plain unfair!!!. I've beta tested Office 2003 and
2007 and got nothing but a cheap FM radio for my hard work after Office 2003
was RTM!!. Not doing this to get something for free, but come on. Be fair to
all your testers!!!.

 

[Patrick Schmid [MVP]]

Let me make something very clear first: I have NO information on this
from Microsoft. This is purely my own thinking and speculation.

I don't know if the Office team will do anything similar to the Vista
team or not. Generally, the decision what (if anything at all) to give
to beta testers is up to each team. If the team decided to reward its
beta testers with a copy of Office, then there is the question as to how
to provide its testers with it. Vista apparently decided to make it
available as download. IF (and again, I don't have any information from
MS on this topic) the team decided to do such a reward, then they could
have decided though to ship a box with a CD/DVD. If that is the case,
then I wouldn't expect anything in the mail for several weeks, as
producing the media and box plus shipping it takes a while.
I'd personally suggest therefore to wait until after January 30 (date of
retail/OEM launch, meaning that's the date by which Office boxes have to
be in stores) with any accusation of Microsoft being unfair.

Again, I don't know anything from MS on this topic, I am just
speculating.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
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Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
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OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
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[Carmine782]

Let me make something very clear first: I have NO information on this
from Microsoft. This is purely my own thinking and speculation.

I don't know if the Office team will do anything similar to the Vista
team or not. Generally, the decision what (if anything at all) to give
to beta testers is up to each team. If the team decided to reward its
beta testers with a copy of Office, then there is the question as to how
to provide its testers with it. Vista apparently decided to make it
available as download. IF (and again, I don't have any information from
MS on this topic) the team decided to do such a reward, then they could
have decided though to ship a box with a CD/DVD. If that is the case,
then I wouldn't expect anything in the mail for several weeks, as
producing the media and box plus shipping it takes a while.
I'd personally suggest therefore to wait until after January 30 (date of
retail/OEM launch, meaning that's the date by which Office boxes have to
be in stores) with any accusation of Microsoft being unfair.

Again, I don't know anything from MS on this topic, I am just
speculating.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed

So why didn't Office 2007 technical beta testers get a free copy of Office
2007 for submitting bugs like Vista beta testers got a free copy of Vista
Ultimate??. This is just plain unfair!!!. I've beta tested Office 2003 and
2007 and got nothing but a cheap FM radio for my hard work after Office 2003
was RTM!!. Not doing this to get something for free, but come on. Be fair to
all your testers!!!.

Is the retail Lunch of Office 2007 really Janurary 30th? I heard that
was the date for vista, but i havent heard that for Office 2007.

Write back
Thanks

 

[Patrick Schmid [MVP]]

Is the retail Lunch of Office 2007 really Janurary 30th? I heard that

was the date for vista, but i havent heard that for Office 2007.

Yes, it is. MS basically said that it's the same day for Office and
Vista. Don't remember though where I read it.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed

 

[Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]]

If you were a technical beta tester, then you will recall that the "free Office for testers" subject came up as soon as the beta started and the official word from Microsoft was that technical beta testers are not "entitled" to a free copy for testing.

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After furious head scratching, bkovacs asked:

| So why didn't Office 2007 technical beta testers get a free copy of
| Office 2007 for submitting bugs like Vista beta testers got a free
| copy of Vista Ultimate??. This is just plain unfair!!!. I've beta
| tested Office 2003 and 2007 and got nothing but a cheap FM radio for
| my hard work after Office 2003 was RTM!!. Not doing this to get
| something for free, but come on. Be fair to all your testers!!!.

 

[JoAnn Paules [MVP]]

I guess some people don't understand the basic idea of volunteering.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

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"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
If you were a technical beta tester, then you will recall that the "free
Office for testers" subject came up as soon as the beta started and the
official word from Microsoft was that technical beta testers are not
"entitled" to a free copy for testing.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, bkovacs asked:

| So why didn't Office 2007 technical beta testers get a free copy of
| Office 2007 for submitting bugs like Vista beta testers got a free
| copy of Vista Ultimate??. This is just plain unfair!!!. I've beta
| tested Office 2003 and 2007 and got nothing but a cheap FM radio for
| my hard work after Office 2003 was RTM!!. Not doing this to get
| something for free, but come on. Be fair to all your testers!!!.

 

[Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]]

Or testing for the sake of testing.

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After furious head scratching, JoAnn Paules [MVP] asked:

| I guess some people don't understand the basic idea of volunteering.
|
|
|| So why didn't Office 2007 technical beta testers get a free copy of
|| Office 2007 for submitting bugs like Vista beta testers got a free
|| copy of Vista Ultimate??. This is just plain unfair!!!. I've beta
|| tested Office 2003 and 2007 and got nothing but a cheap FM radio for
|| my hard work after Office 2003 was RTM!!. Not doing this to get
|| something for free, but come on. Be fair to all your testers!!!.

 

[Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User]

Volunteering? is this why we have not been paid yet? and here was lil 'ole
me thinking that the hold up was down to the payroll office having been
outsourced overseas..


"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
Or testing for the sake of testing.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
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After furious head scratching, JoAnn Paules [MVP] asked:

| I guess some people don't understand the basic idea of volunteering.
|
|
|| So why didn't Office 2007 technical beta testers get a free copy of
|| Office 2007 for submitting bugs like Vista beta testers got a free
|| copy of Vista Ultimate??. This is just plain unfair!!!. I've beta
|| tested Office 2003 and 2007 and got nothing but a cheap FM radio for
|| my hard work after Office 2003 was RTM!!. Not doing this to get
|| something for free, but come on. Be fair to all your testers!!!.

 

[Jeff]

umm-no pay?
hmm;
i quit
lol


Jeff

 

[bkovacs]

I am not arguing over that. I just think it would be fair to everyone who was
a technical beta tester, for Office 2007 to also be rewarded. Since Vista
users were rewarded. And rightfully so. Were not the ones profiting from
this. Microsoft is, and rewarding a few will not break their bank!.
Scratching my head as to why you all can't comprehend this. If I get nothing
fine, but it is a nice gesture of saying thanks!. I understand that it may
now take a while so I will wait and see the outcome, after Office 2007 is
released, before I comment on this topic again.

 

[Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]]

What about Microsoft saying that the Office 2007 testers are not entitled to a free copy of Office 2007 don't you understand? Each product group makes their own decisions about any rewards for beta testing.

The Office group has either decided to make a free copy available to a few, some, most or all of their testers. Campaiging in the public news groups makes you sound like a sore loser or a whiner who only tried the Office beta in hopes of receiving a free copy.

Not how beta testing works, I am afraid. If you are in it for a free copy, you might as well not test anything if that is your sole goal.


--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
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After furious head scratching, bkovacs asked:

| I am not arguing over that. I just think it would be fair to everyone
| who was a technical beta tester, for Office 2007 to also be rewarded.
| Since Vista users were rewarded. And rightfully so. Were not the ones
| profiting from this. Microsoft is, and rewarding a few will not break
| their bank!. Scratching my head as to why you all can't comprehend
| this. If I get nothing fine, but it is a nice gesture of saying
| thanks!. I understand that it may now take a while so I will wait and
| see the outcome, after Office 2007 is released, before I comment on
| this topic again. "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:
|
|| If you were a technical beta tester, then you will recall that the
|| "free Office for testers" subject came up as soon as the beta
|| started and the official word from Microsoft was that technical beta
|| testers are not "entitled" to a free copy for testing.
||
|| --Â
|| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||
|| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
|| unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
|| reading.
||
|| After furious head scratching, bkovacs asked:
||
||| So why didn't Office 2007 technical beta testers get a free copy of
||| Office 2007 for submitting bugs like Vista beta testers got a free
||| copy of Vista Ultimate??. This is just plain unfair!!!. I've beta
||| tested Office 2003 and 2007 and got nothing but a cheap FM radio for
||| my hard work after Office 2003 was RTM!!. Not doing this to get
||| something for free, but come on. Be fair to all your testers!!!.

 

[Bob I]

You got a copy of the beta, right?

When I signed up, it was written in the agreement that I would get a copy!
Did MS change their collective minds?

:

What about Microsoft saying that the Office 2007 testers are not entitled to a free copy of Office 2007 don't you understand? Each product group makes their own decisions about any rewards for beta testing.

The Office group has either decided to make a free copy available to a few, some, most or all of their testers. Campaiging in the public news groups makes you sound like a sore loser or a whiner who only tried the Office beta in hopes of receiving a free copy.

Not how beta testing works, I am afraid. If you are in it for a free copy, you might as well not test anything if that is your sole goal.


--Â
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, bkovacs asked:

| I am not arguing over that. I just think it would be fair to everyone
| who was a technical beta tester, for Office 2007 to also be rewarded.
| Since Vista users were rewarded. And rightfully so. Were not the ones
| profiting from this. Microsoft is, and rewarding a few will not break
| their bank!. Scratching my head as to why you all can't comprehend
| this. If I get nothing fine, but it is a nice gesture of saying
| thanks!. I understand that it may now take a while so I will wait and
| see the outcome, after Office 2007 is released, before I comment on
| this topic again. "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:
|
|| If you were a technical beta tester, then you will recall that the
|| "free Office for testers" subject came up as soon as the beta
|| started and the official word from Microsoft was that technical beta
|| testers are not "entitled" to a free copy for testing.
||
|| --ÂÂ
|| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||
|| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
|| unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
|| reading.
||
|| After furious head scratching, bkovacs asked:
||
||| So why didn't Office 2007 technical beta testers get a free copy of
||| Office 2007 for submitting bugs like Vista beta testers got a free
||| copy of Vista Ultimate??. This is just plain unfair!!!. I've beta
||| tested Office 2003 and 2007 and got nothing but a cheap FM radio for
||| my hard work after Office 2003 was RTM!!. Not doing this to get
||| something for free, but come on. Be fair to all your testers!!!.

 

[Beth Melton]

What agreement?? I've been a beta tester for some time and there has never
been an "agreement" from Microsoft.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP

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When I signed up, it was written in the agreement that I would get a copy!
Did MS change their collective minds?

What about Microsoft saying that the Office 2007 testers are not entitled
to a free copy of Office 2007 don't you understand? Each product group
makes their own decisions about any rewards for beta testing.

The Office group has either decided to make a free copy available to a
few, some, most or all of their testers. Campaiging in the public news
groups makes you sound like a sore loser or a whiner who only tried the
Office beta in hopes of receiving a free copy.

Not how beta testing works, I am afraid. If you are in it for a free
copy, you might as well not test anything if that is your sole goal.


--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, bkovacs asked:

| I am not arguing over that. I just think it would be fair to everyone
| who was a technical beta tester, for Office 2007 to also be rewarded.
| Since Vista users were rewarded. And rightfully so. Were not the ones
| profiting from this. Microsoft is, and rewarding a few will not break
| their bank!. Scratching my head as to why you all can't comprehend
| this. If I get nothing fine, but it is a nice gesture of saying
| thanks!. I understand that it may now take a while so I will wait and
| see the outcome, after Office 2007 is released, before I comment on
| this topic again. "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:
|
|| If you were a technical beta tester, then you will recall that the
|| "free Office for testers" subject came up as soon as the beta
|| started and the official word from Microsoft was that technical beta
|| testers are not "entitled" to a free copy for testing.
||
|| --Â
|| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||
|| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
|| unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
|| reading.
||
|| After furious head scratching, bkovacs asked:
||
||| So why didn't Office 2007 technical beta testers get a free copy of
||| Office 2007 for submitting bugs like Vista beta testers got a free
||| copy of Vista Ultimate??. This is just plain unfair!!!. I've beta
||| tested Office 2003 and 2007 and got nothing but a cheap FM radio for
||| my hard work after Office 2003 was RTM!!. Not doing this to get
||| something for free, but come on. Be fair to all your testers!!!.

 

[Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]]

Whatever agreement you signed did not come from Microsoft.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
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After furious head scratching, Rino asked:

| When I signed up, it was written in the agreement that I would get a
| copy! Did MS change their collective minds?
|
| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:
|
|| What about Microsoft saying that the Office 2007 testers are not
|| entitled to a free copy of Office 2007 don't you understand? Each
|| product group makes their own decisions about any rewards for beta
|| testing.
||
|| The Office group has either decided to make a free copy available to
|| a few, some, most or all of their testers. Campaiging in the public
|| news groups makes you sound like a sore loser or a whiner who only
|| tried the Office beta in hopes of receiving a free copy.
||
|| Not how beta testing works, I am afraid. If you are in it for a
|| free copy, you might as well not test anything if that is your sole
|| goal.
||
||
|| --Â
|| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||
|| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
|| unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
|| reading.
||
|| After furious head scratching, bkovacs asked:
||
||| I am not arguing over that. I just think it would be fair to
||| everyone who was a technical beta tester, for Office 2007 to also
||| be rewarded. Since Vista users were rewarded. And rightfully so.
||| Were not the ones profiting from this. Microsoft is, and rewarding
||| a few will not break their bank!. Scratching my head as to why you
||| all can't comprehend this. If I get nothing fine, but it is a nice
||| gesture of saying thanks!. I understand that it may now take a
||| while so I will wait and see the outcome, after Office 2007 is
||| released, before I comment on this topic again. "Milly Staples [MVP
||| - Outlook]" wrote:
|||
|||| If you were a technical beta tester, then you will recall that the
|||| "free Office for testers" subject came up as soon as the beta
|||| started and the official word from Microsoft was that technical
|||| beta testers are not "entitled" to a free copy for testing.
||||
|||| --ÂÂ
|||| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||||
|||| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
|||| unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted
|||| without reading.
||||
|||| After furious head scratching, bkovacs asked:
||||
||||| So why didn't Office 2007 technical beta testers get a free copy
||||| of Office 2007 for submitting bugs like Vista beta testers got a
||||| free copy of Vista Ultimate??. This is just plain unfair!!!. I've
||||| beta tested Office 2003 and 2007 and got nothing but a cheap FM
||||| radio for my hard work after Office 2003 was RTM!!. Not doing
||||| this to get something for free, but come on. Be fair to all your
||||| testers!!!.