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Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
Listen, Microsoft already has about 10,000 official technical beta testers
(I am one of them) from whom they solicit feedback and bug reports. Many of
us have been using the betas since Alpha code. Sorry if your experience has
not been ideal, but what about BETA don't you understand? The Office Beta
front page clearly explains that you may have problems, do not install on a
production machine, backup your critical data, and watch for potential
corruption. Microsoft is not trying to enlist public beta testers - you are
a beta USER, not a tester.
So, what is Microsoft supposed to do? Come into your home and beat you over
the head with a clue stick? Did you also read the part about the software
being provided "As is, with no support?"
If you really want to see the "whiz-bang" features without actually
installing Office 2007, then try the Test Drive.
http://www.microsoft.com/office/preview/beta/testdrive.mspx?showIntro=n
--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.
After furious head scratching, RandyH asked:
| Well, I understand his pain and the others who are not as lucky as
| you in this install. I've tryed for over a month on the test machine
| with clean install of Vista Beta 2 (latest Version 5384) and I have
| downloaded the Beta for Office three times and tried to install a
| dozen times, some with all default options, some with fewer
| components (custom) I've searched Microsoft and Google for help on
| the error code generated with no real luck. There is NOTHING else on
| this computer except Vista and the package for Office Beta.
|
| The processor is Athlon Barton 2500+, 1Gig Ram, 250Gig (empty hard
| drive)
|
| Microsoft Office Professional Plus 2007 (Beta)
| Error 1935.An error occurred during the installation of assembly
| component {97F81AF1-OE47-DC99-A01F-C883B9A1E18E}, HRESULT: 0x8007054F.
|
| Setup failed. Rolling back changes...
|
|
| The error is always the same and it fails at about 80% install and
| backs out.
|
| I am a systems analyst for a large company who may someday wish to
| roll out the newer version, but not at this rate of couse.
|
| In any case, I give up. I've spent far more of my personal time
| trying to get this to work just to try these new wiz-bang features
| and improved interface and little or no real 'beta' support for the
| software. If MS wants to continue to attract FREE Beta testers, they
| need to improve the beta or improve the support to actually listen to
| feed back and or problems.
|
| If I released, even in beta or alpha, such a product to my internal
| 'customers' I would loose my job.
|
| In any case, feel for the people who have such faith in MS that they
| believe it is safe to use these beta versions for real world needs.
| They end up loving or hateing MS far more afterwords but generally
| end up giving a LOT of their own time and efforts to making it work
| or recovering what they can after an terrible flaw or bug takes them
| out. MS should be more responsible about a beta program and limit
| the distribution to a smaller group they can manage the feedback from.
|
| For others like myself who have tried a few times and failed, give
| up! Wait for a new beta, or a more stable pre-release. However,
| keep in mind these issues when you go to spend the cash on the final
| product or try to convince your company of the value it 'might' have.
|
| I sure wish we had other options!
|
|
|
| "JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote:
|
|| Try and look at it this way:
||
|| It's a *test version*. There are known problems with it. It can and
|| probably will screw something up on your system when it comes time
|| for it to expire. Only people with the beta will be able to read the
|| new format so you will have to remember to make sure you are doing a
|| Save As an older version before you send that file anyway. Chances
|| are it will expire at an inopportune moment. There's no guarantee
|| that you will have the cash on hand to buy the final released
|| version. There's no guarantee that there will not be a gap between
|| the expiration date and the final release.
||
|| Need I continue?
||
|| --
||
|| JoAnn Paules
|| MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
||
||
||
||
|| ||| You must be one of the lucky ones.
|||
||| I not wanting to start a flame war but I am here to get help.
||| if I was the only one that had the problem I would be looking at my
||| computer
||| setup but I am not
|||
||| If you check the board, many have said that they have the same
||| problem with
||| the same error.
|||
||| Microsoft must realize that everyone that writes that there is many
||| that just del the file and not bother.
|||
||| I have downloaded 3 times on this computer and once on my laptop
||| but same problem
|||
||| "installation of this package failed"
|||
||| My wife had a thought is this beta for US citz only?
||| Will Try and download again but this time change location from AUS
||| to US
|||
||| "JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote:
|||
|||| Gee, then I shouldn't read this because I installed it with no
|||| issues.
||||
|||| --
||||
|||| JoAnn Paules
|||| MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
||||
||||
||||
||||
|||| ||||| Step By Step for the Dummies
|||||
||||| Download Beta
|||||
||||| Clicked on file to start installation
|||||
||||| "Do You wish to proceed with installation" - click on Yes
|||||
||||| ERROR MESSAGE "installation of this package failed"
|||||
||||| THE PROBLEM is does not isstall and shuts down
|||||
||||| (another frustrating non working microsoft product)
|||||
|||||
||||| "JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote:
|||||
|||||| Yes, we heard that. And you *still* haven't told us what your
|||||| problem is.
||||||
|||||| --
||||||
|||||| JoAnn Paules
|||||| MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
(I am one of them) from whom they solicit feedback and bug reports. Many of
us have been using the betas since Alpha code. Sorry if your experience has
not been ideal, but what about BETA don't you understand? The Office Beta
front page clearly explains that you may have problems, do not install on a
production machine, backup your critical data, and watch for potential
corruption. Microsoft is not trying to enlist public beta testers - you are
a beta USER, not a tester.
So, what is Microsoft supposed to do? Come into your home and beat you over
the head with a clue stick? Did you also read the part about the software
being provided "As is, with no support?"
If you really want to see the "whiz-bang" features without actually
installing Office 2007, then try the Test Drive.
http://www.microsoft.com/office/preview/beta/testdrive.mspx?showIntro=n
--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.
After furious head scratching, RandyH asked:
| Well, I understand his pain and the others who are not as lucky as
| you in this install. I've tryed for over a month on the test machine
| with clean install of Vista Beta 2 (latest Version 5384) and I have
| downloaded the Beta for Office three times and tried to install a
| dozen times, some with all default options, some with fewer
| components (custom) I've searched Microsoft and Google for help on
| the error code generated with no real luck. There is NOTHING else on
| this computer except Vista and the package for Office Beta.
|
| The processor is Athlon Barton 2500+, 1Gig Ram, 250Gig (empty hard
| drive)
|
| Microsoft Office Professional Plus 2007 (Beta)
| Error 1935.An error occurred during the installation of assembly
| component {97F81AF1-OE47-DC99-A01F-C883B9A1E18E}, HRESULT: 0x8007054F.
|
| Setup failed. Rolling back changes...
|
|
| The error is always the same and it fails at about 80% install and
| backs out.
|
| I am a systems analyst for a large company who may someday wish to
| roll out the newer version, but not at this rate of couse.
|
| In any case, I give up. I've spent far more of my personal time
| trying to get this to work just to try these new wiz-bang features
| and improved interface and little or no real 'beta' support for the
| software. If MS wants to continue to attract FREE Beta testers, they
| need to improve the beta or improve the support to actually listen to
| feed back and or problems.
|
| If I released, even in beta or alpha, such a product to my internal
| 'customers' I would loose my job.
|
| In any case, feel for the people who have such faith in MS that they
| believe it is safe to use these beta versions for real world needs.
| They end up loving or hateing MS far more afterwords but generally
| end up giving a LOT of their own time and efforts to making it work
| or recovering what they can after an terrible flaw or bug takes them
| out. MS should be more responsible about a beta program and limit
| the distribution to a smaller group they can manage the feedback from.
|
| For others like myself who have tried a few times and failed, give
| up! Wait for a new beta, or a more stable pre-release. However,
| keep in mind these issues when you go to spend the cash on the final
| product or try to convince your company of the value it 'might' have.
|
| I sure wish we had other options!
|
|
|
| "JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote:
|
|| Try and look at it this way:
||
|| It's a *test version*. There are known problems with it. It can and
|| probably will screw something up on your system when it comes time
|| for it to expire. Only people with the beta will be able to read the
|| new format so you will have to remember to make sure you are doing a
|| Save As an older version before you send that file anyway. Chances
|| are it will expire at an inopportune moment. There's no guarantee
|| that you will have the cash on hand to buy the final released
|| version. There's no guarantee that there will not be a gap between
|| the expiration date and the final release.
||
|| Need I continue?
||
|| --
||
|| JoAnn Paules
|| MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
||
||
||
||
|| ||| You must be one of the lucky ones.
|||
||| I not wanting to start a flame war but I am here to get help.
||| if I was the only one that had the problem I would be looking at my
||| computer
||| setup but I am not
|||
||| If you check the board, many have said that they have the same
||| problem with
||| the same error.
|||
||| Microsoft must realize that everyone that writes that there is many
||| that just del the file and not bother.
|||
||| I have downloaded 3 times on this computer and once on my laptop
||| but same problem
|||
||| "installation of this package failed"
|||
||| My wife had a thought is this beta for US citz only?
||| Will Try and download again but this time change location from AUS
||| to US
|||
||| "JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote:
|||
|||| Gee, then I shouldn't read this because I installed it with no
|||| issues.
||||
|||| --
||||
|||| JoAnn Paules
|||| MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
||||
||||
||||
||||
|||| ||||| Step By Step for the Dummies
|||||
||||| Download Beta
|||||
||||| Clicked on file to start installation
|||||
||||| "Do You wish to proceed with installation" - click on Yes
|||||
||||| ERROR MESSAGE "installation of this package failed"
|||||
||||| THE PROBLEM is does not isstall and shuts down
|||||
||||| (another frustrating non working microsoft product)
|||||
|||||
||||| "JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote:
|||||
|||||| Yes, we heard that. And you *still* haven't told us what your
|||||| problem is.
||||||
|||||| --
||||||
|||||| JoAnn Paules
|||||| MVP Microsoft [Publisher]