Only one chief for organization chart?

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Epinn

Is it true that only one chief is allowed for the organization chart for V.
2003? Any alternative? Wonder if it is better for v. 2007.

Appreciate comments/advice.
 
P

Patrick Schmid

It is my understanding that the org chart feature in 2003 allows more
than one chief while the new one (called SmartArt) in 2007 allows only
one.
I don't know though how to do this in 2003, as I never used org charts
in it.

Patrick Schmid
 
L

Luc

Epinn,
That is true you cannot add more than one chief in PPT 2003.
You can work around it though by turning off AutoLayout option, then you can
manipulate and copy boxes.
Personally I never use the organizational chart and use AutoShapes and smart
connectors to create a chart. That way you have more control over placement,
structure and such.
 
E

Echo S

Patrick Schmid said:
It is my understanding that the org chart feature in 2003 allows more than
one chief

No, you have to jump through some hoops to get two head honchos in PPT 2003.
 
E

Epinn

Luc,

I didn't do exactly what you suggested (i.e. turning off autolayout), but
your post inspired me. Thanks!

It was actually very easy. I created one chief with an assistant and a few
subordinates. Then, I clicked the "select" button on the toolbar and picked
"all connected lines," right click > copy; and right click > paste.

TWO chiefs side by side. (Two lawyers/partners side by side.)

I was surprised that I didn't even have to turn off autolayout.

I didn't know what made me click the select button; I had no idea what it
was for. Afterall, some inventions were the result of accidents.

Thanks again.
 
B

Bob Buckland ?:-\)

Hi Echo,

Ahhh, if at my work it was *only* two people who thought they were in charge <g>.

MS does still provide as a download for Office 2003 and included in Office 2007 the venerable "MS Organization Chart 2.0" (whose
parent product is now in its sixth version at http://orgplus.com). Org has no problems with multiple top-dogs. :) Basically, it
just follow the logic that a 'co-worker' can exist at any level, even the top.

Using MS Office 2003's 'Diagram tool', now 'SmartArt Graphics' in Office 2007, superimposing and grouping a separate object may be
a safer way to go to prevent from having everything unravel by the 'wrong click' (oops! <g>). Interesting since MS has at least two
organizational groups of its own with paired-bosses :) I see that Luc found the solution of changing his selection and reorganizing
the connectors. That will work in simpler charts but the line rerouting engine also has a few ideas of its own that can get in the
way :)

MS's recommendation has been to use Visio to create orgcharts (database fed or manually) and that can also work if one (a) has Visio
and (b) is going to use it often enough to learn to use it and still produce results on deadline :)

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No, you have to jump through some hoops to get two head honchos in PPT 2003.

Echo [MS PPT MVP] >>
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I hope this helped you,

Bob Buckland ?:)
MS Office system products MVP

LINKS for the 2007 Office System

1. Read about it, try it, or watch the movie :)
the 2007 Microsoft Office system iinfo is at
http://microsoft.com/office/preview

2. Already have 2007 Office System Beta 2?
Send Microsoft your feedback (with pictures)
http://sas.office.microsoft.com/

3. Use the 2007 OfficeOnline website without Office2007

a. Install the ActiveX access control
http://office.microsoft.com/search/redir.aspx?AssetID=XT101650581033
b. then visit http://officebeta.iponet.net
 

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