petition to save VB!

[Mike Hofer]

I'm talking about JOBS dude

if you don't know the diff betwen a JOB and a SPROC then you need to
'go back to using Excel'

I don't care if you think that VB.net is more secure, type-safe and
robust.

IT DOES NOT WORK IN 3/4 OF THE SITUATIONS WHERE I USE VB6 ON A DAILY
BASIS

IT IS NOT A COMPLETE SOLUTION

we're not cowboy coders.
we get more done then you C# fags do in a year

Vb has gone the way of the dodo.
VB.net is a complete market failure.

AND I AM HERE TO BITCH UP A STORM SO THAT MS STARTS TAKING VB.NET
SERIOUSLY








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I do know the difference between a job and a sproc, and I still
maintain that what you want to do can be accomplished. It's just a
matter of figuring it out.

Your credibility, and your usefulness as a reasonable debater on the
subject went down the tubes when you resorted to lowbrow namecalling.
You don't know anything about me. Calling me a fag was uncalled for.
Calling ANYONE a fag is uncalled for, and speaks volumes about your
character.

 

[susiedba]

I don't want to take a DLL and call it from VbScript.

I want to be able to take VB.net and cut and paste it into an ActiveX
script

it DOES NOT WORK

we're way past the point of name-calling

those mother fuckers killed my fucking language; and they've been
driving around like a bunch of drunken idiots for the PAST FIVE YEARS

vb.net doesn't have 3/4 of the functionality of VB6

Can I run VB.net _CLIENTSIDE_ in a webbrowser?

Why don't you STFU until u are on the winning side of the argument

 

[susiedba]

oh does the widdle programmer have his feelings hurt??

oh that's soooooo cute, dude

you-- mr smarty pants-- you can't even describe to me how I can
determine which version of the framework is on machine X.


seriously-- try me-- you won't give a strong solid answer


it's like.. nobody in Redmond has ever had to take a support phone
call

they outsourced it all to India; and MS has officially lost touch with
reality



and for the record; I haven't ever had a problem with performance in
vb6.

I don't want a language that will 'make things faster' if it only runs
in 1/4 of the situations.

Can I run VB.net in an ActiveX script?
Can I run VB.net in an ActiveX script?
Can I run VB.net in an ActiveX script?
Can I run VB.net in an ActiveX script?
Can I run VB.net in an ActiveX script?

I sure say that the answer is no; i've tried that crap a couple of
times

Can I save a DTS package as VB.net?

Stick a fork in it until I can do that, ok kid

-Susie

 

[susiedba]

reasonable debater?

THEY KILLED MY LANGUAGE; WE ARE PAST THE POINT OF DEBATE WE ARE AT WAR
me against anyone using .NET for anything

I don't need to 'just figure out' jack shit
I'm a DBA I don't need to run around learning a new flavor of java
every year.

I've used the same goddamn language since 1982. COMMODORE 64, BABY!
Is VB.net either 'VISUAL' or 'BASIC'?

I demand a language- named Visual Basic-- that works with OFFICE and
VBS FILES and SQL 2000 DTS

-Susie, DBA

 

[aaron.kempf]

And I'm running VB6 applications on Windows 2000, XP, Vista just fine,
with no
performance problems whatsoever. As with any development lifecycle,
you have to profile the application, and identify the slow points,
and
optimize them. It wouldn't matter what language, database, or
development platform you were working with.

 

[RobinS]

I do know the difference between a job and a sproc, and I still
maintain that what you want to do can be accomplished. It's just a
matter of figuring it out.

Your credibility, and your usefulness as a reasonable debater on the
subject went down the tubes when you resorted to lowbrow namecalling.
You don't know anything about me. Calling me a fag was uncalled for.
Calling ANYONE a fag is uncalled for, and speaks volumes about your
character.

He's trolling. He does this a lot. Most of us have tried to argue with him,
only to eventually figure out he doesn't really want an answer, he wants to
turn back time. So we've stopped responding to him.

Just FYI.
Robin S.

 

[Todos Menos [MSFT]]

I don't want to turn back time

I just want a replacement language with 100% of the functionality
I don't accept mediocrity

I don't accept the premise that a company with $60 BILLION CASH can't
create BUG-FREE SOFTWARE.
I don't care WHAT your CompSci professor taught you.

IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. When he told you that; it was inconcievable that
any company would ever have $60 BN in cash.
I just won't use an IDE that is a slug
I just won't use an IDE that crashes

I want to be able to cut and paste code in between Excel, Access,
Outlook, SQL DTS, SQL Server JOBS, VB, DHTML and ASP.

Can VB.net do _ANY_ of those things?

If I made a tasklist of the 12 applications I've consumed VB6 in the
past decade-- would VB.net cover ONE of them?

-Todos

 

[CodeMonkey]

you-- mr smarty pants-- you can't even describe to me how I can
determine which version of the framework is on machine X.


seriously-- try me-- you won't give a strong solid answer

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/318785/en-us?spid=8291&sid=1117

Can't read?

 

[aaron.kempf]

sorry dude that article is WRONG:

a) There are currently three released versions of the .NET Framework.
(what about 3.0?)
b) this doesn't work on Windows 98 %systemroot%\Microsoft.NET
\Framework


nice try kid

 

[aaron.kempf]

so yet again-- Aaron is right and these .NET fags have no clue

 

[aaron.kempf]

I just thikn that it should be easier

Im on this support call with Microsoft once.. and they're like 'well
what version of the framework is on your desktop'
so then I say 'wtf how should I know'

they say 'look under add/remove programs'

and nothing was there

so then they have me download and install this 100mb install.. I'm
like 'wtf is up with 100mb rofl'

then.. get this-- the install didn't work; because i had server 2003
and uh.. my machine ran like _CRAP_ ever after that aborted install



so now. you tell me.. was I 'supposed to know that server 2003
included .NET?'

you're right.. it was my fault-- they asked me I should have known

sorry

but I don't accept your bloatware _CRAP_ kid

..NET is for fags it slows your whole machine down


I mean-- get real

 

[aaron.kempf]

when Microsoft


a) stops using a whole bunch of documents in order to communicate this
sort of thing
b) learns how to centralize information in a DATABASE instead of a
dozen XML files

that is when I stfu

as it is; Microsoft runs around like chickens with their heads cut off

 

[aaron.kempf]

from the Wiki

%SystemRoot%

The %SystemRoot% variable is a special system-wide environment
variable found on Microsoft Windows NT and its derivatives. Its value
is the location of the system folder, including the drive and path.

The drive is the same as %SystemDrive% and the default path on a clean
installation depends upon the version of the operating system. By
default on a clean installation,

* Windows NT 5.1 (Windows XP) and newer versions by default use
\WINDOWS
* Windows NT 5.0 (Windows 2000), Windows NT 4.0 and Windows NT 3.1
by default use \WINNT
* Windows NT 3.5x by default uses \WINNT35

%WinDir%

This variable points to the Windows directory. If the System is on
drive C: then the default values are:

* C:\WINDOWS on Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows Me, Windows XP,
and Windows Server 2003
* C:\WINNT for Windows NT 4 and Windows 2000

 

[Mike Hofer]

He's trolling. He does this a lot. Most of us have tried to argue with him,
only to eventually figure out he doesn't really want an answer, he wants to
turn back time. So we've stopped responding to him.

Just FYI.
Robin S.- Hide quoted text -

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I'm trolling? Ma'am, I've never conversed with you before. In fact,
I've only recently begun viewing these boards again, after quite a
lengthy absense. I don't know who you're talking about, but it
certainly isn't me.

Please check your facts before you make claims like that.

 

[Mike Hofer]

I'm trolling? Ma'am, I've never conversed with you before. In fact,
I've only recently begun viewing these boards again, after quite a
lengthy absense. I don't know who you're talking about, but it
certainly isn't me.

Please check your facts before you make claims like that.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

And now, I'll eat crow and take my own advice. I should have read the
quote chain.

My sincerest apologies.

 

[CodeMonkey]

He's trolling. He does this a lot. Most of us have tried to argue with him,
only to eventually figure out he doesn't really want an answer, he wants to
turn back time. So we've stopped responding to him.

Just FYI.
Robin S.

And on 99.999% of his arguments, he's wrong and doesn't even bother to
find out first. He's stuck in the dark ages...

 

[CodeMonkey]

sorry dude that article is WRONG:

a) There are currently three released versions of the .NET Framework.
(what about 3.0?)
b) this doesn't work on Windows 98 %systemroot%\Microsoft.NET
\Framework


nice try kid

Since you can't read, I will for you... The article was written before
..Net 3 came out. And yes, it does work on 98.

When will you actually try something?

 

[CodeMonkey]

And on 99.999% of his arguments, he's wrong and doesn't even bother to
find out first. He's stuck in the dark ages...

And furthermore, I think it's just time to killfile him.

 

[aaron.kempf]

CodeMonkey

how about you backup those claims; dipshit

please show me how I can cut VB.net and paste it into SQL Server 2005
job!


-Aaron

 

[aaron.kempf]

wait a second kid

wikipedia says it doesn't work

the 'article was released before 3.0 came out' is _NOT_ an acceptable
answer.
how do i know which version of 3.0 I have?? it's not in the document

killFile THIS!


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