petition to save VB!

[dbahooker]

hey guys I just wanted to send a reminder out to you all..

if you've got a brain then sign this petition
http://classicvb.org/petition/

THANKS!

-Aaron

 

[susiedba]

yeah you're right

MS should have kept the worlds most popular language

as it is; VB has lost 3/4 of it's marketshare in the past 5 years.

I CALL FOR BALLMER TO RETIRE AND RALPH NADER TO TAKE OVER.
HE IS THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN SAVE VB

 

[mg]

Hmmm... This thread needs more cowbell.

 

[BogusID]

hey guys I just wanted to send a reminder out to you all..

if you've got a brain then sign this petition
http://classicvb.org/petition/

THANKS!

-Aaron

So if the software copyright was valid for 10 years, the .net incarnation is
substantially a different product, and support is discontinued from the
originator...

Can VB6 Enterprise be legally downloaded from the public domain?
Can it be reverse engineered for public domain use?
Can anyone do a better job extending support for VB6 than DR/Calera did with
DOS 7?

Is it even worth the hassle and investment?

If you stare at your hand for too long, the tears may cloud your vision!

 

[susiedba]

maybe one day soon, Novell will change 'Mono' to be 'Poly' and port
itself to Windows.

LIKE SERIOUSLY HERE

 

[dbahooker]

http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2007/02/21/visual_basic_mono_linux/

Visual Basic is one of the World's - and certainly one of Microsoft's
-
most widely used programming languages. Sixty two per cent of
developers
use Visual Basic, while 37 per cent of big businesses specifically use
Visual Basic.NET - launched for Microsoft's .NET architecture. Visual
Basic has a solid following that, over the years, has forced Microsoft
to re-think aspects of the .NET roadmap

 

[Nick Chan]

can u stop it? visual basic studio express IDE is so good and free

 

[susiedba]

I strongly agree man

..NET is _BLOATWARE_; we don't need to be pawns in Microsoft's anti-
linux crap

basically.. MS had a bunch of security problems-- and instead of
FIXING THEM they sold us on the 'next great thing'

except that the next great thing; it doesn't run on Vista
and it doesn't run on Windows 2000...

I mean; even within .NET they don't support 2002 and 2003 on Vista?

YOU KIDS PUT UP WITH THIS CRAP?

it's time for Microsoft to start DELIVERING EXCELLENCE.
as it is; they're more interested in being 'everyones best friend' and
coming out with next great thing every 18 monts

but people with a clue just sit there and say 'wtf is wrong with this
company'

a complete rewrite to make shit 5 % faster is DOTNOT what I wanted out
of VB 7 and VB8.
pulling data out of XML is not what I want out of VB6.

I WANT BIGGER, FASTER, LIGHTER, DATABASE ACCESS IN VB.

Microsoft needs to buy Oracle just to have some employees that
appreciate 'the database is the center of corporate America'.

Not XML. XML is a sales tactic.

I WANT FUNCTIONALITY.

MS IS FIGHTING IMAGINARY WINDMILLS.
THEY WON THE WAR AND THEN THEY SURRENDERED TO JAVA.

I MEAN SERIOUSLY HERE.
VB6 WON THE WAR AND THEN THEY KILLED IT IN ORDER TO FIGHT JAVA?

I just don't get that friggin logic

WHY DOES NOT VBSCRIPT-- IN THE BROWSER-- GET PUSHED ANYMORE?
WHY DOES NOT VBSCRIPT-- IN THE BROWSER-- GET PUSHED ANYMORE?
WHY DOES NOT VBSCRIPT-- IN THE BROWSER-- GET PUSHED ANYMORE?

 

[susiedba]

VB HAS BEEN GOOD AND FREE FOREVER.

IT IS CALLED MS OFFICE YOU FUCKING RETARD

AND THIS DOTNET CRAP DOESN"T WORK IN 3/4 OF THE PLACES THAT VB6 WORKED

 

[BogusID]

Personally, I think MS peaked in 1997, it was all uphill after that.

 

[BogusID]

VB HAS BEEN GOOD AND FREE FOREVER.

IT IS CALLED MS OFFICE YOU FUCKING RETARD

AND THIS DOTNET CRAP DOESN"T WORK IN 3/4 OF THE PLACES THAT VB6 WORKED

Whoa Mr. Hyde, MS-Office is not free, and comparing VBA to VB6 is like
comparing a Hugo to a Corvette.
I guess my comparison would make VB2005 a transit bus!

..net seems even less excepted in environments where it does run (or crawl,
belch and barf as the case may be)
After refreshing my hard drive when 3.0 came out, my XP stays .net free,
period!

 

[aaron.kempf]

yeah I think that they peaked in 2000

I mean.. Windows 2000 was a great OS.. but Windows ME? I mean OMFG

they never should have came out with XP; they betrayed all their
partners by 'planning to get rid of 9x' and then keeping ME around and
making 2000 irrelevent.. and putting all their efforts into XP

I mean... killing Windows 2000 after 18 months?

WTF MICROSOFT

 

[aaron.kempf]

I can't write an ActiveX script in VB.net so that I can execute it
with SQL Server JOBS
I can't write an ActiveX script in VB.net so that I can execute it
with SQL Server JOBS
I can't write an ActiveX script in VB.net so that I can execute it
with SQL Server JOBS
I can't write an ActiveX script in VB.net so that I can execute it
with SQL Server JOBS

I mean.. why is .NET still HALF-BAKED?

 

[dbahooker]

can u stop it?

it sounds like an addiction to me

I mean; Heroin is fun.. and it's relatively affordable
does this mean we all should do it?

 

[Mike Hofer]

I can't write an ActiveX script in VB.net so that I can execute it
with SQL Server JOBS
I can't write an ActiveX script in VB.net so that I can execute it
with SQL Server JOBS
I can't write an ActiveX script in VB.net so that I can execute it
with SQL Server JOBS
I can't write an ActiveX script in VB.net so that I can execute it
with SQL Server JOBS

I mean.. why is .NET still HALF-BAKED?





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SQL Server 2005 supports Stored Procedures written in the CLR language
of your choice: C#, VB.NET, J#, C++.NET, or any other .NET language.
So what's your point?

And I'm running .NET applications on Windows 2000 just fine, with no
performance problems whatsoever. As with any development lifecycle,
you have to profile the application, and identify the slow points, and
optimize them. It wouldn't matter what language, database, or
development platform you were working with.

..NET is far more secure, type-safe, and robust than VB6 *ever* was. It
forces me to write higher quality code by paying attention to what I'm
doing. VB6 produced an entire army of cowboy coders who are now, to
put it bluntly, pissed off that Microsoft wants to encourage folks to
write more secure, stable code using a development platform that
encourages secure, stable code.

As far as I'm concerned, it can go the way of the dodo. It's only use
now is for maintaining legacy applications. We've gradually ported
every VB6 application we had to .NET, and we've seen nothing but
improvements in performance, stability, and maintainability. I can't
possibly see how that's a bad thing.

 

[susiedba]

I'm talking about JOBS dude

if you don't know the diff betwen a JOB and a SPROC then you need to
'go back to using Excel'


I don't care if you think that VB.net is more secure, type-safe and
robust.

IT DOES NOT WORK IN 3/4 OF THE SITUATIONS WHERE I USE VB6 ON A DAILY
BASIS

IT IS NOT A COMPLETE SOLUTION


we're not cowboy coders.
we get more done then you C# fags do in a year

Vb has gone the way of the dodo.
VB.net is a complete market failure.

AND I AM HERE TO BITCH UP A STORM SO THAT MS STARTS TAKING VB.NET
SERIOUSLY

 

[susiedba]

Can you run .NET 3.0?

Is there _ANY_ platform that you can use to develop VB.net without
worrying about whether it's 1.1 or 2.0 or 3.0?

Is it time for MS to pull the plug on Windows 2000? Windows 2000 was
the best thign to ever come out of Redmond; XP sucks balls

it's bloatware.. XP and .NET
and I won't use it

we're not cowboy developers kid

we're the DBA of the world
we get more done before breakfast than you can possibly imagine

and we DO NOT have enough time to constantly learn a new language.

FOUR VERSIONS OF VISUAL FRED IS NOT ACCEPTABLE

 

[susiedba]

and for the record; hasn't J# been discontinued?

I mean seriously here-- was there even a J# 2.0? because I dont think
that 1.1 can write SQL Server sprocs lol

and seriously

you don't see how INCOMPATABILITY IS A BAD THING?

YOU DO NOT SEE HOW KILLING THE WORLDS MOST POPULAR LANGUAGE IS A BAD
THING?

..NET isn't usable

you-- mr smarty pants-- you can't even describe to me how I can
determine which version of the framework is on machine X.

seriously-- try me-- you won't give a strong solid answer

it's like.. nobody in Redmond has ever had to take a support phone
call
they outsourced it all to India; and MS has officially lost touch with
reality


-Susie

 

[susiedba]

yeah you're right

Vb6 is a corvette.. and Vb.net (its not even called that anymore!) is
as bloated as a BUS

 

[susiedba]

Can I take a SQL Server 2000 DTS package and save it as VB.net?

Stick a friggin fork in it until I can, bud

-Susie