Protection in 2003 again.

[Tracey]

Further to the earlier thread "Protection in 2003" (pasted below for
clarity)... We did get a chance to test in Word 2003 on an original copy of
the document (before applying the workaround.) The user clicked View >
Toolbars (as suggested) and the Control Tool Box is turned on. How can I
tell if the document is in design mode?

To recap...

My rsp to your rsp:
Dian,

Thanks for the quick response. Unfortunately, I won't get to test this yet,
but we have a lot of protected forms so I'm sure the issue will come up
again. As a workaround, the user opened the doc in a version of Word prior
to 2003, unprotected it, made her edits, reprotected, and clicked to Start
Enforcing. I'll be sure to pass along this information.

Your rsp to my original post:
When this first happened to me in this version, I was baffled, too.
Turns out if you have it in design mode, the protection is
unavailable. So turn on the Control Toolbox from View > Toolbars and
make sure it's not in design mode.

Dian D. Chapman, Technical Consultant
Microsoft MVP, MOS Certified
Editor/TechTrax Ezine

My original post:

 

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

If the Control Toolbox is displayed, I think that means you're in Design
Mode.

 

[Tracey]

I was not clear when I said the Control Toolbox was turned on. The Control
Toolbox is not displayed. It's one of the menu items under View > Toolbars.
What I should have said was the Control Toolbox menu item is checked. We
have tried unchecking this, and it doesn't fix the problem. The button "Yes,
Start Enforcing" is still greyed out when she trieds to reprotect the
document.

 

[Tracey]

Does anyone have the solution to this problem?

I was not clear when I said the Control Toolbox was turned on. The Control
Toolbox is not displayed. It's one of the menu items under View > Toolbars.
What I should have said was the Control Toolbox menu item is checked. We
have tried unchecking this, and it doesn't fix the problem. The button "Yes,
Start Enforcing" is still greyed out when she trieds to reprotect the
document.

 

[Dian D. Chapman, MVP]

You've posted this same question now in about four different
places...yet you're not understanding the answer. See some of the
other replies to your many posts explaining that it's NOT a matter of
just turning off the toolbox, but turning off the design mode. A fact
that you have not yet answered as to whether you have done this.

Dian D. Chapman, Technical Consultant
Microsoft MVP, MOS Certified
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[Tracey]

Dian,

I've opened three threads for the same question -- it's true, and I
apologize. Your response in the first thread said:

So turn on the Control Toolbox from View > Toolbars and
make sure it's not in design mode.

In the second thread I asked this follow-up question:

The user clicked View > Toolbars (as suggested) and the Control Tool Box is >turned on. How can I tell if the document is in design mode?

To which the response was:
If the Control Toolbox is displayed, I think that means you're in Design
Mode.

I responded twice (in the second thread) the first time saying it was not
clear, the second time saying "is there a solution?" No response was posted,
so I thought perhaps the issue had been closed, which lead me to open a third
thread. I apologize for my lack of understanding the instructions. To add
confusion, I'm relaying information second hand, and I don't have Word 2003
on my pc... I'm working with screen prints. I don't mean to be difficult,
and I apoligize for any inconvenience.

So... when she's in her document and selects View > Toolbars, the Control
Toolbox menu item has a check by it, I GUESS meaning the Control Toolbox is
displayed up with the other toolbars (it is not floating in the middle of the
screen anywhere)... When she clicks to uncheck the Control Toolbox, then
tries to enforce protection, her "Yes, Start Enforcing" button is STILL
greyed out and not clickable. This is why I have continued to post. Can you
please take me through each step, so I may explain clearly to the user?
Thank you very much for your patience.

Tracey

 

[Dian D. Chapman, MVP]

Okay...let's try this one more time...

She should click View > Toolbars > Control Toolbox to turn ON the
Control Toolbox so that she can see it. If she can't SEE it and it is
checked...meaning it SHOULD be in view...then she will need to find
it. It should be either floating or has been docked to one of the
sides of the screen.

Once it is located...in the top/left corner of that toolbar, there is
an icon. If you mouse over it...it says "Design Mode." If the button
is pressed, another single/tiny toolbar appears, usually in the
lower/right corner of the screen that is a copy of that icon. Since so
many people make this mistake by leaving a doc in design mode, MS devs
have added a second design icon to give you one more chance to turn it
off.

It does not matter which one you click...but if the icon is
highlighted...looks different from the others, that means is has been
pressed and you are in design mode. If that is the case...click it
again to toggle off design mode so the Design Mode icon on the Control
Toolbar looks just like the other icons on that same toolbar.

What you have been telling her to do is just uncheck and turn off the
Control Toolbox...and that is doing no good if she is still in design
mode. She must find the toolbar and check that icon to make sure she
is not in design mode.

Dian D. Chapman, Technical Consultant
Microsoft MVP, MOS Certified
Editor/TechTrax Ezine

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[Tracey]

Yes, it works once she exits from the "Design Mode"!!
Will she have to exit "Design Mode" each time she wants to protect a
document with Microsoft Office Word 2003? Or is there a way not to work in
the "Design Mode"?

 

[Tracey]

No need to respond to this most recent question. You're right about the
thread being split up and hard to follow. I saw your suggestions in the
other "Protection..." thread about Macro Security, and we'll try that.
Thanks very much to all who helped up work through this issue.

 

[Dian D. Chapman, MVP]

Yes, when you post in a bunch of threads, you get all type of
information and it becomes a run around, since not everyone has the
total story.

If you look in the thread above, you'll see that Beth Melton has
solved the problem.

Dian ~