Shortcuts and Lasso Disable

[Tim]

I am using One Note 2007 on a tablet PC and I have a few gripes that are
preventing me from enjoying OneNote completely.

First there seems to be a lack of keyboard shortcuts for different tools. I
would like keyboard shortcuts for the pen tool, selection tool, and text tool
among other things, but I can't seem to find them in any help files. Are
there shortcuts for this or at least a way to customize keyboard shortcuts?

Also, I don't like how on a tablet PC right clicking and dragging creates a
lasso selection action. Can I disable this?

 

[Erik Sojka (MVP)]

There are a lot of KB shortcuts for OneNote. Check the Help menu for
"Keyboard Shortcuts". Scroll down past the general sections which apply
to all of Office for the ON-specific ones.

The use of the Lasso tool when right-clicking and dragging may be
something that your Tablet's pen is doing. ON doesn't support RC-and-
Drag, so your pen might be adding a feature on its own. If you just drag
or right-click with the Pen, you should be able to keep those features
separate.

 

[Tim]

Thanks for the reply,
I have seen the list of shortcuts but none of them apply to the situations
that I described in my post. They were more generalized shortcuts like
copy/paste, and shift clicking to select a range of objects. I am looking for
shortcuts to switch between tools such as the pen and text tool.

The reason ON is making a lasso is because it recognizes the difference
between normal mouse and tablet input, when you RC-Drag while using the pen
tool with a mouse it creates a selection box, however when the tablet is used
doing a RC-Drag gesture ON is programmed to draw a lasso style selection. The
problem with this isn't using normal RC functions, my problem is that I want
to use a third party mouse gesture program that uses RC-Drag and the ON
RC-Drag function is overriding the program I am using, so if I could disable
the RC-Drag functionality in ON I could use the program.

Thank you.

 

[Tim]

Oh, I see the KB shortcut menu item. I did notice it before but when I click
on it it just opens the help window but it doesn't show any KB shortcuts. I
don't know if this is a glitch or what because right now it's just doing what
the normal help menu item does.

 

[xTenn]

I am using One Note 2007 on a tablet PC and I have a few gripes ....

First there seems to be a lack of keyboard shortcuts
....

lasso selection action. Can I disable this?

Wow, Interesting. By "tablet PC" you are definitely not meaning "Slate", I
take it...

 

[Rainald Taesler]

Tim shared these words of wisdom:

Oh, I see the KB shortcut menu item. I did notice it before but
when I click on it it just opens the help window but it doesn't
show any KB shortcuts. I don't know if this is a glitch or what
because right now it's just doing what the normal help menu item
does.

Just click on "Show all" on the upper right side.
This will open the list of shortcuts.

Rainald

 

[Rainald Taesler]

xTenn shared these words of wisdom:

Wow, Interesting. By "tablet PC" you are definitely not meaning
"Slate", I take it...

TabletPCs can be slates and/or convertables (or hybrids like the HP
tc1000/1100) ;-)

Rainald

 

[xTenn]

xTenn shared these words of wisdom:


TabletPCs can be slates and/or convertables (or hybrids like the HP
tc1000/1100) ;-)

Ah, but then is it really a slate at that point in time?

(and yes I fully admit a slate can use a bluetooth and/or onscreen
keyboard... just not sure if additional keyboard shortcuts would really be
much of a focus for that occasional use... and if it is would they really be
better served by a non-slate machine... )

 

[Rainald Taesler]

xTenn shared these words of wisdom:

Ah, but then is it really a slate at that point in time?

To the contrary! <bg>
Keyboard shortcuts come into the game when a convertible TabletPC is
opened in notebook mode ;-)

(and yes I fully admit a slate can use a bluetooth and/or onscreen
keyboard...

Yes, there's that.
But: Usage of a keyboard of any sort kills the advantages of using
the pen - none of the TabletPCs used with a keyboard provides an
ergonomical way of working with the pen at the same time.

just not sure if additional keyboard shortcuts would
really be much of a focus for that occasional use... and if it is
would they really be better served by a non-slate machine... )

For sure!
It was one of the points which I heavily criticized during the Beta
that ON not really is TabletPC-oriented enough.
There are ways too many keyboard shortcuts without any *visual*
(clickable) equivalents. And this makes it really hard to make full
usage of a TabletPC is slate mode.
Obviously the development team did not really go through serious
testing the product with a pen only. They would have found ways to
enable the special functions for slate-usage otherwise.

Not too much sense IMHO in investing a lot of time and creativity to
enable pen usage and inking and all that on the one side and
restricting a larger number of important features to the usage of a
keyboard OTH. What we have at present in so far is half-way only.
[siiigh]

This is a most serious drawback and I'm seriously suffering from that
day by day as I'm normally using my tc1100 in slate mode and use the
keyboard only for certain special activities (when configuring the
system or when having to write larger texts "on the road").

The "TIP" does not provide enough means for making use of the ON
keyboard shortcuts and the usage of the "OSK" (windows OnScreen
keyboard) - which works better with shortcut-key combinations - is
highly
contra-productive when working in ON.

It's a PITA.

Rainald

 

[Rainald Taesler]

Tim shared these words of wisdom:

Ahh, but I have an ace up my sleeve. I use a mouse gesture program
that listens to Right click and drag gestures and then send
shortcuts to any program, it's called stroke it.

Sounds intesting.
Thanks for the pointer.

And that is why I need Right click and keyboard Shortcuts.

Sorry, I can't see the logical connection with the subjcet of this
thread (the lasso).
Could you pls explain a bit more.

Rainald
P.S. Did you find the shortcut list meanwhile?

 

[Rainald Taesler]

Tim shared these words of wisdom:

Well the lasso tool shows up when I right click and drag and that
overrides the right click and drag functionality that I want.

Thanks for explaining. I seem to have got it now.
I do not see any possibility, however, to disable the lasso utility.

It seems that you'd better file a bug/suggestion in Connect
www.connect.microsoft.
Having done so, you might let us know here so that we could jump on.

I found a shortcut list, here
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/onenote/HP011125361033.aspx
but it didn't have any tools shortcuts I wanted. When I click on
keyboard shortcuts on the help bar in onenote it doesn't work.

This is really strange.
It has been working fine for me in the Beta and it works in the
current version (tested it prior to my previous reply).

What happens when you click on the menu-item in the "?" menu?

Rainald
P.S. Picked the posting from the outbasket:
I tried it again because I was still wondering what it might be on
your side.
The Help Window opened as usual and started loading the online
content.
And then the windows was blank and after a while the browser came up
with the Office Online page.
Never had that before.

I tried it again several times. The strange behaviour was not
repeated. The list opened fine in the Help-window.

It seems to be a problem with loading the content for the window over
the net.
[grrrrrhh]
The most-hated feature of Office 2007 is the construction of HELP only
available online.
I seriously miss the traditional HLP-instruments.
I wonder how users in Bourkina Faso might get help ...

For many long years the acronym for the HLP in Windows was "OLH" which
meant "online help". This was not "online" but files on the HDD. Now
we have got "web-help". Would perhaps be OK if this was available
*in*addition* to a HLP-system sitting locally. BUT IMHO it's simply
crazy to offer Help for standard features of applications only via the
web. I estimate it to be absurd to believe that all users in this
whole wide world would be connected to internet on 24/7 basis.

 

[Tim]

well under "Help" there are the menu items are "Microsoft office onenote
help", and "keyboard shortcuts". Both buttons do the sane thing. They open a
help file, and goto the same page. But it's odd that your help file is online
mine is a help file and I tout even see an online help button.

I found a shortcut list, here
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/onenote/HP011125361033.aspx
but it didn't have any tools shortcuts I wanted. When I click on
keyboard shortcuts on the help bar in onenote it doesn't work.

This is really strange.
It has been working fine for me in the Beta and it works in the
current version (tested it prior to my previous reply).

What happens when you click on the menu-item in the "?" menu?

Rainald
P.S. Picked the posting from the outbasket:
I tried it again because I was still wondering what it might be on
your side.
The Help Window opened as usual and started loading the online
content.
And then the windows was blank and after a while the browser came up
with the Office Online page.
Never had that before.

I tried it again several times. The strange behaviour was not
repeated. The list opened fine in the Help-window.

It seems to be a problem with loading the content for the window over
the net.
[grrrrrhh]
The most-hated feature of Office 2007 is the construction of HELP only
available online.
I seriously miss the traditional HLP-instruments.
I wonder how users in Bourkina Faso might get help ...

For many long years the acronym for the HLP in Windows was "OLH" which
meant "online help". This was not "online" but files on the HDD. Now
we have got "web-help". Would perhaps be OK if this was available
*in*addition* to a HLP-system sitting locally. BUT IMHO it's simply
crazy to offer Help for standard features of applications only via the
web. I estimate it to be absurd to believe that all users in this
whole wide world would be connected to internet on 24/7 basis.

 

[Rainald Taesler]

Tim shared these words of wisdom:

well under "Help" there are the menu items are "Microsoft office
onenote help", and "keyboard shortcuts". Both buttons do the sane
thing. They open a help file, and goto the same page.

No. Selecting sing "Microsoft OnenNote Help ... F1" opens the index
and the main aged.
Selecting "Keyboard Shortcuts" directly jumps to the page with the
shortcut list

But it's odd
that your help file is online mine is a help file and I tout even
see an online help button.

Thnaks for letting me know.
After asking the German Office newsgroup I could clear this meanwhile:
The secreting is the setting for how Help is to work.
The Help-Window (the same in the other Office 2007 apps) has an
interactive part at the right side of the status bar.
Clicking there one can select the way Help works from a menu, online
or offline.

So I meenawhile switched online off. If I really need it I can always
call it from the Help-menu.
Thanks for the pointer

Rainald