the future for Access?

A

a a r o n . k e m p f

SORRY I MEANT TO SAY _JOHN_

Yes, John is a very vociferous advocate of MDB/JET as THE sole
solution to
all problems; and, if you google for his past posts, you'll find that
he has
no use for other options nor for those who support them. Sorry your
intro to
the newsgroup ran into this ongoing controversy.
 
J

John W. Vinson

SORRY I MEANT TO SAY _JOHN_

Yes, John is a very vociferous advocate of MDB/JET as THE sole
solution to
all problems; and, if you google for his past posts, you'll find that
he has
no use for other options nor for those who support them. Sorry your
intro to
the newsgroup ran into this ongoing controversy.
--

<shrug> I'm administering two sites using MDB as a frontend to SQL/Server, and
in the process of converting another; and have recommended SQL backends over
JET at least twice this week.

I agree with you more often than you think, Aaron.
 
A

a a r o n . k e m p f

I don't know where you got that statistic from--
the bottom line-- I'm just not positive that you're comparing apples
to apples. I think that you're saying
Access (MDB + ADP) > SQL Server (without ADP)
I actually might agree to your SWAG (scientific wild ass guess).. I
think that ADP are 100 times more prevalent than you guys believe.

The punchline is that it seems like you should be doing the
calculation this way
MDB < (ADP OR SQL Server)

I'm just not positive that there is a study - anywhere in the world-
that shows that MDB is more popular than ADP and _HOW_ much more
popular it is.

Of course that is true. Of course-- SQL -OR- ADP has more people than
MDB.

-It's the most economical database on the market
** www.microsoft.com/sql - SQL Express is _FREE_ has twice the space
limit.. and 100 times more scalable than MDB / Jet / ACCDB /
SharePoint.. SQL Express is _EASIER_ and more powerful; more scalable;
more reliable- I mean _WOW_.

-It has a long history with a strong support community
** microsoft.public.access
_AND_
** microsoft.public.sqlserver

-Many professional organizations use it every day and depend on it -
** I think that it's obvious to me-- that SQL Server is more popular
than MDB.

I mean; how could you even make this claim? The number of book sales?
LoL
I mean; how could you even make this claim? The number of newsgroup
questions? LoL

Should we add up the # of newsgroup questions about SQL Server vs
Access? I'll gladly do that math with you.

The experiences of a bunch of Access script kids? Is that how you
extrapolate 'Jet has taken over the world (even though it is getting
replaced by SQL Server Compact Edition.. er-- cough-- I mean WinFS!
YAY IT IS HERE!)'

I'm just as egocentric as anyone else on this newsgroup. But I mean--
come on-- just because you read this _WHERE_ does that mean that it is
true?
 
R

Rick Brandt

do you know how to spell x64?

Well-- Adobe doesn't.

We were discussing a web browser plugin. That does not care about the OS
being x32, x64, or much of anything else it.
Anyone developing serious apps with SQL Server needs to be on x64..
for a ton of reasons.

There are likely advantages for SQL Server itself to be on x64. The client
probably not so much.
Adobe doesn't support x64 so screw that!!

Macromedia would have been _SO_ much more powerful if they weren't
tied at the hip - to an albatross.

How many times does Adobe Reader _REALLY_ need to check for updates?
How many times does Adobe Reader _REALLY_ need to check for updates?
How many times does Adobe Reader _REALLY_ need to check for updates?
Who gave Adobe MY PERMISSION to install a TSR on _MY_ machine?
Who gave Adobe MY PERMISSION to install a TSR on _MY_ machine?
Who gave Adobe MY PERMISSION to install a TSR on _MY_ machine?

Who's discussing Acrobat? I use Foxit PDF reader myself.
Adobe is malware.

Sorry--

Dreamweaver rocks-- because it builds industry standard.. uh have you
heard of it- 'HTML' on any webserver or client anywhere.

Yeah, all the pros use Dreamweaver. Sorry, I write my HTML in a text
editor. I need no hand-holding from a WYSIWYG tool.
 
T

Tony Toews [MVP]

a war? like on the newsgroups?

no-- those dudes took it into the real world about a year ago ;)

Ah, no. You were arrested by a SWAT team and charged for cyber
stalking. And you pleaded guilty.

Tony
--
Tony Toews, Microsoft Access MVP
Please respond only in the newsgroups so that others can
read the entire thread of messages.
Microsoft Access Links, Hints, Tips & Accounting Systems at
http://www.granite.ab.ca/accsmstr.htm
Tony's Microsoft Access Blog - http://msmvps.com/blogs/access/
 
A

a a r o n . k e m p f

WOW-- thanks.
Is it free!?!? I can't get PDF Reader either.

Honestly-- I'm on xp x64-- by far the greatest ever

I'm kinda hardcore I guess.. about x64.. I just-- every console app I
ever build-- is going to run on x64 and nothing else.. so I think that
it makes a lot of sense to test the capabilites on my desktop before
pushing it upstream

-Aaron
 

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