What program renders Word 2000 documents unalterable?

H

Howard Kaikow

The best way to distribute a Word doc that you do not wish others to alter,
but be able to read is either as a PDF file or in some other image format.
 
G

Guest

-----Original Message-----
The best way to distribute a Word doc that you do not wish others to alter,
but be able to read is either as a PDF file or in some other image format.

--
http://www.standards.com/; See Howard Kaikow's web site.



.

What's the difference, then, between conversion to pdf and
paswd-protection for tracked changes?
 
J

Jean-Guy Marcil

Bonjour,

Dans son message, < (e-mail address removed) > écrivait :

||| -----Original Message-----
||| The best way to distribute a Word doc that you do not wish others to
alter,
||| but be able to read is either as a PDF file or in some other image
format.
|||
||| --
||| http://www.standards.com/; See Howard Kaikow's web site.
||| |||| What program renders Word 2000 documents unalterable?
|||
|||
||| .
||
|| What's the difference, then, between conversion to pdf and

PDF = Image of Word document, text can be modified, but only if user has
Acrobat Writer and the pdf file is not password protected for editing.

|| paswd-protection for tracked changes?

People can change the document, but changes can only be accepted/refused if
you know the password.

--
Salut!
_______________________________________
Jean-Guy Marcil - Word MVP
(e-mail address removed)
Word MVP site: http://www.word.mvps.org
 
J

Jean-Guy Marcil

Bonjour,

Dans son message, < (e-mail address removed) > écrivait :

||| -----Original Message-----
||| The best way to distribute a Word doc that you do not wish others to
alter,
||| but be able to read is either as a PDF file or in some other image
format.
|||
||| --
||| http://www.standards.com/; See Howard Kaikow's web site.
||| |||| What program renders Word 2000 documents unalterable?
|||
|||
||| .
||
|| What's the difference, then, between conversion to pdf and
|| paswd-protection for tracked changes?


Please do not multipost.

If you want you can crosspost (Many newsgroups in the To: field when you
create your message.)

The reason is simple:
People may end up "wasting" their time answering a post that has already
been answered elsewhere, thus it may be very likely that their particular
response to a post be totally ignored if the reply received elsewhere was
satisfactory to the original poster.
--
Salut!
_______________________________________
Jean-Guy Marcil - Word MVP
(e-mail address removed)
Word MVP site: http://www.word.mvps.org
 
P

pdfShunner

Jean-Guy Marcil said:
Bonjour,

Dans son message, < (e-mail address removed) > écrivait :

||| -----Original Message-----
||| The best way to distribute a Word doc that you do not wish others to
alter,
||| but be able to read is either as a PDF file or in some other image
format.
|||
||| --
||| http://www.standards.com/; See Howard Kaikow's web site.
||| |||| What program renders Word 2000 documents unalterable?
|||
|||
||| .
||
|| What's the difference, then, between conversion to pdf and

PDF = Image of Word document, text can be modified, but only if user has
Acrobat Writer and the pdf file is not password protected for editing.

|| paswd-protection for tracked changes?

People can change the document, but changes can only be accepted/refused if
you know the password.

--
Salut!
_______________________________________
Jean-Guy Marcil - Word MVP
(e-mail address removed)
Word MVP site: http://www.word.mvps.org



If paswd-protection for tracked changes turns-on changes-tracking; and, if the recipient of my document can suggest changes but not get them accepted by his computer if he doesn't know the password that I have set; then, how is it that "People can change the document"?
 
P

pdfShunner

Howard Kaikow said:
Password protection in Word is easily bypassed.
Not so easy in PDF.

--
http://www.standards.com/; See Howard Kaikow's web site.



If paswd-protection for tracked changes turns-on changes-tracking; and, if the recipient of my document can suggest changes but not get them accepted by his computer if he doesn't know the password that I have set; then, how is it that "Password protection in Word is easily bypassed"? If you please: elaborate fully.
 
P

pdfShunner

pdfShunner said:
What program renders Word 2000 documents unalterable?

I've seen recently a program that purports to do (I believe) essentially
what pdf-conversion does. I can't find that program now. Do you, dear
reader, know of any such program?
 
H

Howard Kaikow

and, if the recipient of my document can suggest changes but not get them
accepted by his computer if he doesn't know the password that I have set;
then, how is it that "Password protection in Word is easily bypassed"? If
you please: elaborate fully.

I will not discuss methods of bypassing passwords.
 
J

Jean-Guy Marcil

Bonjour,

Dans son message, < pdfShunner > écrivait :
In this message, < pdfShunner > wrote:

|| "Jean-Guy Marcil" wrote:
||
||| Bonjour,
|||
||| Dans son message, < (e-mail address removed) > écrivait :
|||
|||||| -----Original Message-----
|||||| The best way to distribute a Word doc that you do not wish others to
||| alter,
|||||| but be able to read is either as a PDF file or in some other image
||| format.
||||||
|||||| --
|||||| http://www.standards.com/; See Howard Kaikow's web site.
|||||| ||||||| What program renders Word 2000 documents unalterable?
||||||
||||||
|||||| .
|||||
||||| What's the difference, then, between conversion to pdf and
|||
||| PDF = Image of Word document, text can be modified, but only if user has
||| Acrobat Writer and the pdf file is not password protected for editing.
|||
||||| paswd-protection for tracked changes?
|||
||| People can change the document, but changes can only be accepted/refused
if
||| you know the password.
|||
||| --
||| Salut!
||| _______________________________________
||| Jean-Guy Marcil - Word MVP
||| (e-mail address removed)
||| Word MVP site: http://www.word.mvps.org
|||
|||
|||
||| If paswd-protection for tracked changes turns-on changes-tracking; and,
if the recipient of my
||| document can suggest changes but not get them accepted by his computer
if he doesn't know the
||| password that I have set; then, how is it that "People can change the
document"?

You are splitting hair, or you are not familiar with tracking changes in a
document!
I meant that people can suggest changes to the document and those changes
will be recorded, but the original text still remains until the changes have
been accepted or refused (in which case the change itself is deleted, not
the original text) by someone who knows the password.

Try it out.

--
Salut!
_______________________________________
Jean-Guy Marcil - Word MVP
(e-mail address removed)
Word MVP site: http://www.word.mvps.org
 
P

pdfShunner

Jean-Guy Marcil said:
Bonjour,

Dans son message, < pdfShunner > écrivait :
In this message, < pdfShunner > wrote:

|| "Jean-Guy Marcil" wrote:
||
||| Bonjour,
|||
||| Dans son message, < (e-mail address removed) > écrivait :
|||
|||||| -----Original Message-----
|||||| The best way to distribute a Word doc that you do not wish others to
||| alter,
|||||| but be able to read is either as a PDF file or in some other image
||| format.
||||||
|||||| --
|||||| http://www.standards.com/; See Howard Kaikow's web site.
|||||| ||||||| What program renders Word 2000 documents unalterable?
||||||
||||||
|||||| .
|||||
||||| What's the difference, then, between conversion to pdf and
|||
||| PDF = Image of Word document, text can be modified, but only if user has
||| Acrobat Writer and the pdf file is not password protected for editing.
|||
||||| paswd-protection for tracked changes?
|||
||| People can change the document, but changes can only be accepted/refused
if
||| you know the password.
|||
||| --
||| Salut!
||| _______________________________________
||| Jean-Guy Marcil - Word MVP
||| (e-mail address removed)
||| Word MVP site: http://www.word.mvps.org
|||
|||
|||
||| If paswd-protection for tracked changes turns-on changes-tracking; and,
if the recipient of my
||| document can suggest changes but not get them accepted by his computer
if he doesn't know the
||| password that I have set; then, how is it that "People can change the
document"?

You are splitting hair, or you are not familiar with tracking changes in a
document!
I meant that people can suggest changes to the document and those changes
will be recorded, but the original text still remains until the changes have
been accepted or refused (in which case the change itself is deleted, not
the original text) by someone who knows the password.

Try it out.

--
Salut!
_______________________________________
Jean-Guy Marcil - Word MVP
(e-mail address removed)
Word MVP site: http://www.word.mvps.org



Thank you for the reply. I did not mean to split hairs. I have never tracked changes amongst a group of users; only my own. In the group situation, when a recipient suggests changes, I presume that those changes are tracked by lines that appear through the original text with the proposals in red; when the editor or the originator prints the document prior to accepting the changes, does it print as the original or does it print with lines through the original text and with the proposals in red?
 
J

Jean-Guy Marcil

Bonjour,

Dans son message, < pdfShunner > écrivait :
In this message, < pdfShunner > wrote:


||| Thank you for the reply. I did not mean to split hairs. I have never
tracked changes amongst
||| a group of users; only my own. In the group situation, when a recipient
suggests changes, I
||| presume that those changes are tracked by lines that appear through the
original text with the
||| proposals in red; when the editor or the originator prints the document
prior to accepting the
||| changes, does it print as the original or does it print with lines
through the original text
||| and with the proposals in red?

It depends how you set up the display in Track changes toolbar.
For example, if you are viewing the document with the changes,. they will
print along with the original text. If you view the "final" version, they
will not be printed.
The same goes with the original version, with or without changes.

Also, there is a setting in the Print dialog that will override the document
setting (in the Print what list under the page selection area).

--
Salut!
_______________________________________
Jean-Guy Marcil - Word MVP
(e-mail address removed)
Word MVP site: http://www.word.mvps.org
 
J

Jonathan West

tracked changes amongst a group of users; only my own. In the group
situation, when a recipient suggests changes, I presume that those changes
are tracked by lines that appear through the original text with the
proposals in red; when the editor or the originator prints the document
prior to accepting the changes, does it print as the original or does it
print with lines through the original text and with the proposals in red?


The reason what you are proposing is not secure is that any user could copy
all te text into a new unprotected document, save it and rename it to the
sam name as the original file.

It may be that the original document couldn't be altered, but if you can
copy the content and then alter it, it is a distinction without a practical
difference.
 

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