Your product has nothing specific to the legal profession

[GN]

The downloads you have are "TRIALS". To a busy lawyer, that's a waste of
time, and perhaps data. Why do you not have anything built into your system
for lawyers (I'm particularly concerned with the Canadian legal profession,
but the US will do in a pinch, though there are considerable and
irreconcilable differenfces between the 2 legal systems. Frankly, US
material is not of much use to Canadian lawyers.

I note Corel has / had a complete legal edition. And there are products on
the market that outstrip anything you can offer the legal professional.

I just wonder why no attention has been paid to R&D and marketing services
for (Canadian) lawyers. It's not rocket science. And, I can guarantee that
if the governments were not using your operating system and software (and
believe me, thet day is coming when they will jump ship in a heartbeat)
lawyers wouldn't be using this product AT ALL. I have spoken to any number
of lawyers and to be honest, it's only because they need to be connected to
other people running your software. Though a lot changed from the Corel
product it wasforced. And, if you don't do something for the legal
profession I suggest that when it's safer the profession will drop your
product quickly as there isn't really anything for them available in office.

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[DL]

I see, so there are only two legal professions and one continent.
PS How much have you billed, and to which client, for this rant.

The downloads you have are "TRIALS". To a busy lawyer, that's a waste of
time, and perhaps data. Why do you not have anything built into your system
for lawyers (I'm particularly concerned with the Canadian legal profession,
but the US will do in a pinch, though there are considerable and
irreconcilable differenfces between the 2 legal systems. Frankly, US
material is not of much use to Canadian lawyers.

I note Corel has / had a complete legal edition. And there are products on
the market that outstrip anything you can offer the legal professional.

I just wonder why no attention has been paid to R&D and marketing services
for (Canadian) lawyers. It's not rocket science. And, I can guarantee that
if the governments were not using your operating system and software (and
believe me, thet day is coming when they will jump ship in a heartbeat)
lawyers wouldn't be using this product AT ALL. I have spoken to any number
of lawyers and to be honest, it's only because they need to be connected to
other people running your software. Though a lot changed from the Corel
product it wasforced. And, if you don't do something for the legal
profession I suggest that when it's safer the profession will drop your
product quickly as there isn't really anything for them available in office.

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[DW]

You ARE joking right?

 

[Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]]

And why did you stop using Corel???

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After furious head scratching, GN asked:

| The downloads you have are "TRIALS". To a busy lawyer, that's a
| waste of time, and perhaps data. Why do you not have anything built
| into your system for lawyers (I'm particularly concerned with the
| Canadian legal profession, but the US will do in a pinch, though
| there are considerable and irreconcilable differenfces between the 2
| legal systems. Frankly, US material is not of much use to Canadian
| lawyers.
|
| I note Corel has / had a complete legal edition. And there are
| products on the market that outstrip anything you can offer the legal
| professional.
|
| I just wonder why no attention has been paid to R&D and marketing
| services for (Canadian) lawyers. It's not rocket science. And, I
| can guarantee that if the governments were not using your operating
| system and software (and believe me, thet day is coming when they
| will jump ship in a heartbeat) lawyers wouldn't be using this product
| AT ALL. I have spoken to any number of lawyers and to be honest,
| it's only because they need to be connected to other people running
| your software. Though a lot changed from the Corel product it
| wasforced. And, if you don't do something for the legal profession I
| suggest that when it's safer the profession will drop your product
| quickly as there isn't really anything for them available in office.
|
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| the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the
| button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft
| Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane.
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[Bob I]

In review, I would have to discount this posting due to your having used
"lawyer" and "to be honest" in the same sentence.

 

[GN]

I won't bother responding to your ignorance of the different lines of case
law, legislation etc. between the US and Canada. Nor will I bother getting
into any detail about how pleading are differently in the two countries. Nor
will I bother to change your mind about lawyers. That's clearly not going
anywhere.

But to answer your particular question about billing, I'm not sure what your
experience has been (I gather it was bad) but nobody billed for these posts.
And, yes, Virginia, there is a lawyer who very often works for free because
people can't afford a lawyer. I do it all the time, which I guess is why
I'll never be rich.

Having said that, your response, in my view, displayed nothing more than
ignorance (which is understandable and therefore of no consequence) and
rudeness, which I trust you were raised to ignore, be it in person or over an
internet connection.

Notwithstanding your comments I trust you'll have an enjoyable holiday.
Don't bother responding.

 

[GN]

That's not a very helpful response. If you have any familiarity with the
law, you would be aware that the Canadian and American systems differ in many
ways, from the style of pleadings, to legislation, and the body of case law
developed by judges. It's similar on the surface, but quite different once
you take the time to actually educate yourself.

I'm not sure what else you suggest I'm joking about. It sure it can't be
the preference the legal community in Canada had for the Corel legal edition
of their software.

And, it can't be the fact that Microsoft doesn't do any "special editions"
like that for doctors, lawyers, contractors, or whatever. That was a genuine
question / comment on my part. I can't find anything useful to a legal
practioiner. I was actually hoping someone might offer some constructive
response to the effect that I was wrong and there were lots of products
designed by Microsoft for people in the legal profession.

I won't bother to guess what else I'm supposed to be kidding about. But, if
this is the quality of response, don't bother responding again. And, for
what it's worth, sorry I hit a sore spot.

 

[GN]

Very often I work with Government and other agencies that have converted to
Micorsoft. I actually DO use Corel (and have their most recent edition), but
it's a lot easier to communicate with people using the samem software.
Further, it's not a wise idea to have them both operating on one system. I'm
told it causes problems when they both seek to use up spare space. I can't
recall the specifics.

Thank you for the only sensible response I received. Have good holidays.

 

[GN]

Really amusing....if you're 5 years old. Don't know where you live or what
your experience with lawyers is, but FYI, I and a number of other lawyers I
know do free work for a number of people who can't afford lawyers. If you're
in the US, I would point out that the profession seems to run differently.
There are different statutes, different case law, different pleadings etc.
Nor would you ever catch me practicing in the US if any of what I see on TV
is remotely true. What you take for entertainment isn't. And when I do end
up watching any programme involving lawyers (which I avoid) I count the
number of times they should ALL be disbarred. Perhaps I am being to harsh,
having no real experience. But, at least I gave you the courtesy of a
genuine response. All I wanted to know is why Microsoft doesn't do special
editions like Corel does (or did). Frankly, I wanted to hear there were
resources I could use.

As for your response, well, I'm not about to change your view of lawyers,
but in my experience - at lesat in Canada- the legal professioin is regulated
in a VERY strict manner. I won't even venture to guess what you're actually
getting at. I suspect nothing beyond having the time to provide useless and
infantile responses to genuine questions and comments.

Having said that, have happy holidays anyway.

 

[Bob I]

The problem I see is there is there are why too many of them due to the
nature of everyone wanting something for nothing and trying to figure
out how to force someone else to pay for it. With that out of the way,
this is a peer-to-peer support area and the reasons Microsoft doesn't
produce a "legal profession" version is known only to the marketing
folks. I suspect that it's the same reason they don't produce an
engineering version or a healthcare version or any of the numerous other
occupations. (Won't make them any more money than selling what they
already do) And hope you are also enjoying the holidays!