ADO 6

[aaron.kempf]

and, btw when you said you had 3 wd 200 gb drives.. are you talking
about a software raid 5 set?

ROFL

-Aaron

 

[aaron.kempf]

obviously knows nothign about huh?

I used to be a DAO _LEPER_.. almost 10 years ago.. Office 2000 came out
in what; fall of 1999? I was on the beta program for that one and I
definitely started usign Access Data Projects and MDB with ADO.. mainly
because of the stability problems we had with Access 97.

the next spring; i walked into a company that had 80 access databases /
applications.. all writen in 97.. I rewrote a ton of them to ADP and
SQL Server-- because we were sick and tired of making people wait 60
seconds when they opened their apps

and we were sick and tired of using DAO because it gave memory leaks.

Just because I disagree with any use of DAO anywhere; does that mean
that I 'dont know the library'

Why don't you stop with the personal attacks; pull your head out of
your ass and realize that there is STILL a practical RAD environment
for VB developers.

VB.net is a FAILURE.
DAO revival is a JOKE.

THERE IS A NEW VERSION OF ADO AND IM FUCKING STOKED ABOUT IT

 

[aaron.kempf]

yeah; im just glad that there is an ADO revival

I would rather get ass-raped then ever touch DAO again

-Aaron

 

[manhooker]

yeah; im just glad that there is an ADO revival

I would rather get ass-raped then ever touch DAO again

-Aaron

Personally, I think you should be ass-raped for the crap you always
spout about ADP's being so great and MDB's being so crap!

With your anger issues (re hundreds of your other posts) I'm sure you
will have already served some time in the slammer - and likely been
corn-holed many times - hence your new found interest.

MDB's rule and ADP's suck ass - lose your training wheels and come to
the dark side - I spit on ADP and their users!

 

[aaron.kempf]

because I SPEAK THE TRUTH?

I dont eat workarounds for breakfast.

Simple, Bound Data Entry and Reporting.
Does MDB provide it?

ROFL HELL NO

MDB is dead; anyone that uses it for anything should be SPIT ON

 

[punjab_tom]

so is this correct?

Vista contains ADO 6.0?

YAY-- that is the best news I've ever heard of

-Tom

 

[Ralph]

so is this correct?

Vista contains ADO 6.0?

YAY-- that is the best news I've ever heard of

-Tom

Not exactly.

With Vista the MDAC as a separate install is gone. The MDACs contained and
were often labeled by the most current version of ADO they supported,
although they also contained other components - mostly dealing with OLE and
OLE DB.

With Vista Windows will have as part of the O/S the DAC (Data Access
Components). The DAC essentially replaces the MDAC. See Aaron.Kemps
interesting 11/3 post on why they labeled the package "6.0".

At this time "DAC 6.0" doesn't include a version "6.0" of ADO it contains
"ADO 2.8x". The DAC also still supports previous versions of ADO. The
primary changes will be found in the OLE and OLE DB components and newer
providers (when they appear).

MS has been drifting in this direction for awhile now, as the MDAC packages
had become platform specific anyway.

-ralph

 

[dbahooker]

seriously manhooker.. what in the hell are you talking about?

MDB is for retards.. can you do ANYTHING without utilizing a dozen
workarounds?

I dont want to link tables; refresh tables.. I don't want to enumerate
through my queries and edit the connection strings for SQL Passthrough
Queries.

MDB is obsolete.

EAT SHIT mdb script kiddie

-Aaron

 

[dbahooker]

listen fucker

im not the only one that is cheering on ADP.
I am just one of the only ones with the BALLS to stand up for it.

From where I'm standing; ADP have a brighter future than MDB format.

And this DAO revival that is soooooo ridiculous-- it's inconsistent
that Microsoft is providing a new version of ADO; yet everyone else out
here is saying that they 'arent going to support ADO in the future'

moving your code from DAO-> ADO was one of the FIRST STEPS to having a
stable release.

UNDOING what us; the real-world developers have been doing for the PAST
TEN YEARS is ridiculous.

Shove a fork up your ass, Microsoft

AND START DELIVERING A CLEAR MARKETING MESSAGE.

 

[dbahooker]

and for the record; if Microsoft DIDNT CENSOR ME FROM SPEAKING THE
TRUTH then I wouldn't need to do this.

Microsoft is getting all this bad press for helping the Chinese gov't
to censor a search engine or two.

WHEN IN FACT THE REAL PROBLEM IS THAT MICROSOFT SUPPORTS CENSORSHIP

Maybe if the MVPs around here had the balls to DEMAND THAT MICROSOFT
STFU AND START FIXING BUGS then maybe I'd stop my continual bitching.

-Aaron

 

[dbahooker]

and also from what I heard; Granny SWALLOWS

-Aaron

 

[dbahooker]

granny

you're so full of shit

every single post i make is censored on the microsoft news servers

microsoft isn't censoring you because you're using USENET; not the
microsoft public news server

 

[dbahooker]

and everything is write is valuable

better than sitting around and using a piece of shit database like MDB
and then having to re-architect EVERYTHING when you have scalability
concerns.

your crap isn't easier to develop in; it's not faster at exection time.

MDB is a DEAD FORMAT

-Aaron

 

[aaron.kempf]

so what you're telling me is that Vista DOESNT ship with ADO 6.0?

because I sure have seen it; firsthand!

-Aaron

 

[aaron.kempf]

most people listen to you MDB-pussies and i'm not willig to put up with
it.

you sell workarounds and other crap; im sick and tired of it.

keep your queries/ tables in one place-- ADP and your life is 100 times
easier

I just believe that Microsoft ISNT DELIVERING A SIMPLE MARKETING
MESSAGE.
AND I DEMAND THAT THEY TAKE ADP SERIOUSLY.

instead of a million dollar ajax intranet site to insert / update a
couple of records into a database?

GIVE US ADP AND DELIVER A CLEAR MARKETING MESSAGE

-Aaron

 

[punjab_tom]

I agree.

SO IS THERE ADO6 in Vista OR NOT?

-Tom

 

[Ralph]

so what you're telling me is that Vista DOESNT ship with ADO 6.0?

because I sure have seen it; firsthand!

-Aaron

<snipped>

Vista ships with "DAC 6.0". There are changes to the OLE/OLE DB components.
The included version of ADO is 2.8 (some call it 2.81/x). "ADO 6" is
currently just a convenient way to discrimnate between previous versions
shipped with MDAC and the newer DAC.

It becomes more a matter of view. If you are looking for a "New" ADO, with
new exciting features, you will be disappointed. If you are looking for a
slightly different OLE DB engine you will be partially correct.

-ralph

 

[Ralph]

I agree.

SO IS THERE ADO6 in Vista OR NOT?

-Tom

<snipped>

There ain't no "ADO 6". There is a "DAC 6".

 

[aaron.kempf]

ROFL

so you kids admit that there IS a new version of ADO..

and yet you all sit there and claim that DAO is makign a great
revivial?

WHAT ABOUT THE ADO REVIVAL?
WHAT ABOUT THE ADO REVIVAL?
WHAT ABOUT THE ADO REVIVAL?
WHAT ABOUT THE ADO REVIVAL?
WHAT ABOUT THE ADO REVIVAL?


I'm just so excited I think that im going to pee my pants

-Aaron

 

[Ralph]

ROFL

so you kids admit that there IS a new version of ADO..

and yet you all sit there and claim that DAO is makign a great
revivial?

WHAT ABOUT THE ADO REVIVAL?
WHAT ABOUT THE ADO REVIVAL?
WHAT ABOUT THE ADO REVIVAL?
WHAT ABOUT THE ADO REVIVAL?
WHAT ABOUT THE ADO REVIVAL?


I'm just so excited I think that im going to pee my pants

-Aaron

You have consistently failed the Turing Test. But assuming there is still
some spark of intellect ...

Where do you get the idea there is some kind of "ADO Revival" or that anyone
suggested that there was a "DAO Revival"?

Taking the term "Revival" at its most common meaning - a restoration or
re-awakening. It doesn't apply to either of the data access libraries. While
DAO predates ADO, both have been around for a very long time. Both have
witnessed changes. Both have advantages and disadvantages.

-ralph