K
Kurt Knoll
Internet explorer IE7 will not work with applets and or Frames on pages
created with FrontPage 2003
Kurt Knoll
created with FrontPage 2003
Kurt Knoll
M
Murray
Post a link to your page, please.
K
Kurt Knoll
What kind of a link and how.
Kurt Knoll.
Kurt Knoll.
Murray said:
K
Kurt Knoll
Thanks here is the complete link this page is using an applet.
http://www.kurtknoll.com/kitmtelseold.html
Kurt Knoll
http://www.kurtknoll.com/kitmtelseold.html
Kurt Knoll
D
David Berry
Works fine for me. You must have a setting on your PC that's not allowing
you to see it or you don't have a JVM (Java Virtual Machine) installed. Try
looking at it from another PC
you to see it or you don't have a JVM (Java Virtual Machine) installed. Try
looking at it from another PC
M
Murray
I only see an ugly gray box - the same as most people on the web will see
(since the number of web surfers who have actually downloaded and installed
the Java engine is quite small).
Must you use this Java thing?
(since the number of web surfers who have actually downloaded and installed
the Java engine is quite small).
Must you use this Java thing?
M
Murray
And by the way, there are no frames there.
Can you tell us again what the question is, then?
Can you tell us again what the question is, then?
K
Kurt Knoll
You are absolutely right. I did download the java viritual machine and it
works. Therefore my question now would be" if I did have a commercial web
site, How many people who will see pictures where applets are being used".
Kurt Knoll
Photographs of the Canadian Pacific Northwest.
at www.kurtknoll.com/midway.html
works. Therefore my question now would be" if I did have a commercial web
site, How many people who will see pictures where applets are being used".
Kurt Knoll
Photographs of the Canadian Pacific Northwest.
at www.kurtknoll.com/midway.html
R
Rob Giordano \(Crash\)
Probably not many...only people willing to download JVM (or willing to
use/enable it) will see it.
Dunno what the stats are on JVM current usage, you may be able to find
figures by using Google.
Gotta add this; my new laptop that Santa brought this morning did have JVM
installed which surprised me. 152meg though
| You are absolutely right. I did download the java viritual machine and it
| works. Therefore my question now would be" if I did have a commercial web
| site, How many people who will see pictures where applets are being used".
|
| Kurt Knoll
| Photographs of the Canadian Pacific Northwest.
| at www.kurtknoll.com/midway.html
|
| | >I only see an ugly gray box - the same as most people on the web will see
| >(since the number of web surfers who have actually downloaded and
installed
| >the Java engine is quite small).
| >
| > Must you use this Java thing?
| >
| > --
| > Murray
| > --------------
| > MVP FrontPage
| >
| >
| > | >> Works fine for me. You must have a setting on your PC that's not
| >> allowing you to see it or you don't have a JVM (Java Virtual Machine)
| >> installed. Try looking at it from another PC
| >>
| >>
| >> | >>> Thanks here is the complete link this page is using an applet.
| >>>
| >>> http://www.kurtknoll.com/kitmtelseold.html
| >>>
| >>> Kurt Knoll
| >>> | >>>> Post a link to your page, please.
| >>>>
| >>>> --
| >>>> Murray
| >>>> --------------
| >>>> MVP FrontPage
| >>>>
| >>>>
| >>>> | >>>>> Internet explorer IE7 will not work with applets and or Frames on
| >>>>> pages created with FrontPage 2003
| >>>>>
| >>>>> Kurt Knoll
| >>>>>
| >>>>>
| >>>>
| >>>>
| >>>
| >>>
| >>
| >>
| >
| >
|
|
use/enable it) will see it.
Dunno what the stats are on JVM current usage, you may be able to find
figures by using Google.
Gotta add this; my new laptop that Santa brought this morning did have JVM
installed which surprised me. 152meg though
| You are absolutely right. I did download the java viritual machine and it
| works. Therefore my question now would be" if I did have a commercial web
| site, How many people who will see pictures where applets are being used".
|
| Kurt Knoll
| Photographs of the Canadian Pacific Northwest.
| at www.kurtknoll.com/midway.html
|
| | >I only see an ugly gray box - the same as most people on the web will see
| >(since the number of web surfers who have actually downloaded and
installed
| >the Java engine is quite small).
| >
| > Must you use this Java thing?
| >
| > --
| > Murray
| > --------------
| > MVP FrontPage
| >
| >
| > | >> Works fine for me. You must have a setting on your PC that's not
| >> allowing you to see it or you don't have a JVM (Java Virtual Machine)
| >> installed. Try looking at it from another PC
| >>
| >>
| >> | >>> Thanks here is the complete link this page is using an applet.
| >>>
| >>> http://www.kurtknoll.com/kitmtelseold.html
| >>>
| >>> Kurt Knoll
| >>> | >>>> Post a link to your page, please.
| >>>>
| >>>> --
| >>>> Murray
| >>>> --------------
| >>>> MVP FrontPage
| >>>>
| >>>>
| >>>> | >>>>> Internet explorer IE7 will not work with applets and or Frames on
| >>>>> pages created with FrontPage 2003
| >>>>>
| >>>>> Kurt Knoll
| >>>>>
| >>>>>
| >>>>
| >>>>
| >>>
| >>>
| >>
| >>
| >
| >
|
|
K
Kurt Knoll
Good luck to you. I went into computing about 1978. Bought a North Star
advantage computer with a 5 meg hard driver for about 16 grants. went into
Programming "Dbase" and wrote all my business applications. My first Laptop
was a Toshiba for about 5 grants. have not stopped since and I am still in
it as a retire "74" have established a web site strictly about photography
and it is at www.kurtknoll.com/midway.html
Photographs of the Canadian Pacific Northwest.
advantage computer with a 5 meg hard driver for about 16 grants. went into
Programming "Dbase" and wrote all my business applications. My first Laptop
was a Toshiba for about 5 grants. have not stopped since and I am still in
it as a retire "74" have established a web site strictly about photography
and it is at www.kurtknoll.com/midway.html
Photographs of the Canadian Pacific Northwest.
R
Rob Giordano \(Crash\)
My first personal 'puter was a Commodore PET...so we are contemps. Ididnt' go into programming though, I was more into ripping stuff apart
(still am) - that's why they call me Crash
Also a photog
| Good luck to you. I went into computing about 1978. Bought a North Star
| advantage computer with a 5 meg hard driver for about 16 grants. went into
| Programming "Dbase" and wrote all my business applications. My first
Laptop
| was a Toshiba for about 5 grants. have not stopped since and I am still in
| it as a retire "74" have established a web site strictly about photography
| and it is at www.kurtknoll.com/midway.html
|
| Photographs of the Canadian Pacific Northwest.
|
| | > Probably not many...only people willing to download JVM (or willing to
| > use/enable it) will see it.
| > Dunno what the stats are on JVM current usage, you may be able to find
| > figures by using Google.
| >
| > Gotta add this; my new laptop that Santa brought this morning did have
JVM
| > installed which surprised me. 152meg though
| >
| >
| > | > | You are absolutely right. I did download the java viritual machine and
| > it
| > | works. Therefore my question now would be" if I did have a commercial
| > web
| > | site, How many people who will see pictures where applets are being
| > used".
| > |
| > | Kurt Knoll
| > | Photographs of the Canadian Pacific Northwest.
| > | at www.kurtknoll.com/midway.html
| > |
| > | | > | >I only see an ugly gray box - the same as most people on the web will
| > see
| > | >(since the number of web surfers who have actually downloaded and
| > installed
| > | >the Java engine is quite small).
| > | >
| > | > Must you use this Java thing?
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > Murray
| > | > --------------
| > | > MVP FrontPage
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > | > | >> Works fine for me. You must have a setting on your PC that's not
| > | >> allowing you to see it or you don't have a JVM (Java Virtual
Machine)
| > | >> installed. Try looking at it from another PC
| > | >>
| > | >>
| > | >> | > | >>> Thanks here is the complete link this page is using an applet.
| > | >>>
| > | >>> http://www.kurtknoll.com/kitmtelseold.html
| > | >>>
| > | >>> Kurt Knoll
| > | >>> | > | >>>> Post a link to your page, please.
| > | >>>>
| > | >>>> --
| > | >>>> Murray
| > | >>>> --------------
| > | >>>> MVP FrontPage
| > | >>>>
| > | >>>>
| > | >>>> | > | >>>>> Internet explorer IE7 will not work with applets and or Frames
on
| > | >>>>> pages created with FrontPage 2003
| > | >>>>>
| > | >>>>> Kurt Knoll
| > | >>>>>
| > | >>>>>
| > | >>>>
| > | >>>>
| > | >>>
| > | >>>
| > | >>
| > | >>
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
K
Kurt Knoll
Join the club. As a kid my xmas percents mostly metal toys did never last
longer then a day. My habit was taking anything apart to see what
inside.Later on I became self employed as a business man and electronic
technician. If there was something I could not fix because of parts the
customer said I did **** it up.
Kurt Knoll
Kitimat British Columbia.
longer then a day. My habit was taking anything apart to see what
inside.Later on I became self employed as a business man and electronic
technician. If there was something I could not fix because of parts the
customer said I did **** it up.
Kurt Knoll
Kitimat British Columbia.
T
Trevor L.
Rob said:
contemps. I didnt' go into programming though, I was more into
ripping stuff apart (still am) - that's why they call me Crash
Was that the same as the Commodore 64 ? With all 64KB of RAM !!
A friend of mine bought one for an exorbitant $AUS799 and lent it to me for
a while. I think he didn't know how to use it much (it programmed in BASIC)
and hoped that I might buy it off him. I used it a bit, and my son and I (I
think he was 16 or 17 - he is now nearly 38) wrote a few Mickey Mouse
programs - and saved them to tape !!
I had had some programming experience (I wasn't actually a professional
programmer at that stage of my career) but my son only used what he had
learnt at college (years 11 and 12 here in Australia).
The first PC I bought was an Amstrad. It was an IBM PC XT clone. It ran at
something like 6 mHZ (using MS/DOS ver 2.0 ?) and had a large amount of
RAM - I can't remember, was it as much as 1 MB ?? The hard disk was also
huge - 20MB. And a great 600*480 px B&W CRT monitor. Supplied software was:
NONE . The vendor threw in some programs including a great DOS word
processor.
Of course, read all adjectives such as "large" huge" "great" with the
proverbial pinch of salt
What do you mean by this line ?
--
Cheers,
Trevor L.
[ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
MVPS Website: http://trevorl.mvps.org/
----------------------------------------
R
Rob Giordano \(Crash\)
No not same as the 64. We had the delux model with 16kb of RAM!
http://www.old-computers.com/museum/computer.asp?c=191
photog=photographer
| Rob Giordano (Crash) wrote:
| > My first personal 'puter was a Commodore PET...so we are
| > contemps. I didnt' go into programming though, I was more into
| > ripping stuff apart (still am) - that's why they call me Crash
|
| Was that the same as the Commodore 64 ? With all 64KB of RAM !!
|
| A friend of mine bought one for an exorbitant $AUS799 and lent it to me
for
| a while. I think he didn't know how to use it much (it programmed in
BASIC)
| and hoped that I might buy it off him. I used it a bit, and my son and I
(I
| think he was 16 or 17 - he is now nearly 38) wrote a few Mickey Mouse
| programs - and saved them to tape !!
|
| I had had some programming experience (I wasn't actually a professional
| programmer at that stage of my career) but my son only used what he had
| learnt at college (years 11 and 12 here in Australia).
|
| The first PC I bought was an Amstrad. It was an IBM PC XT clone. It ran at
| something like 6 mHZ (using MS/DOS ver 2.0 ?) and had a large amount of
| RAM - I can't remember, was it as much as 1 MB ?? The hard disk was also
| huge - 20MB. And a great 600*480 px B&W CRT monitor. Supplied software
was:
| NONE . The vendor threw in some programs including a great DOS word
| processor.
|
| Of course, read all adjectives such as "large" huge" "great" with the
| proverbial pinch of salt
|
| > Also a photog
| What do you mean by this line ?
| --
| Cheers,
| Trevor L.
| [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| MVPS Website: http://trevorl.mvps.org/
| ----------------------------------------
|
http://www.old-computers.com/museum/computer.asp?c=191
photog=photographer
| Rob Giordano (Crash) wrote:
| >
My first personal 'puter was a Commodore PET...so we are| > contemps. I didnt' go into programming though, I was more into
| > ripping stuff apart (still am) - that's why they call me Crash
|
| Was that the same as the Commodore 64 ? With all 64KB of RAM !!
|
| A friend of mine bought one for an exorbitant $AUS799 and lent it to me
for
| a while. I think he didn't know how to use it much (it programmed in
BASIC)
| and hoped that I might buy it off him. I used it a bit, and my son and I
(I
| think he was 16 or 17 - he is now nearly 38) wrote a few Mickey Mouse
| programs - and saved them to tape !!
|
| I had had some programming experience (I wasn't actually a professional
| programmer at that stage of my career) but my son only used what he had
| learnt at college (years 11 and 12 here in Australia).
|
| The first PC I bought was an Amstrad. It was an IBM PC XT clone. It ran at
| something like 6 mHZ (using MS/DOS ver 2.0 ?) and had a large amount of
| RAM - I can't remember, was it as much as 1 MB ?? The hard disk was also
| huge - 20MB. And a great 600*480 px B&W CRT monitor. Supplied software
was:
| NONE . The vendor threw in some programs including a great DOS word
| processor.
|
| Of course, read all adjectives such as "large" huge" "great" with the
| proverbial pinch of salt
|
| > Also a photog
| What do you mean by this line ?
| --
| Cheers,
| Trevor L.
| [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| MVPS Website: http://trevorl.mvps.org/
| ----------------------------------------
|
R
Rob Giordano \(Crash\)
Ha...sheesh look at this one:
http://www.old-computers.com/museum/computer.asp?st=1&c=233
THIS was my first "laptop" and I still have it too.
| Rob Giordano (Crash) wrote:
| > My first personal 'puter was a Commodore PET...so we are
| > contemps. I didnt' go into programming though, I was more into
| > ripping stuff apart (still am) - that's why they call me Crash
|
| Was that the same as the Commodore 64 ? With all 64KB of RAM !!
|
| A friend of mine bought one for an exorbitant $AUS799 and lent it to me
for
| a while. I think he didn't know how to use it much (it programmed in
BASIC)
| and hoped that I might buy it off him. I used it a bit, and my son and I
(I
| think he was 16 or 17 - he is now nearly 38) wrote a few Mickey Mouse
| programs - and saved them to tape !!
|
| I had had some programming experience (I wasn't actually a professional
| programmer at that stage of my career) but my son only used what he had
| learnt at college (years 11 and 12 here in Australia).
|
| The first PC I bought was an Amstrad. It was an IBM PC XT clone. It ran at
| something like 6 mHZ (using MS/DOS ver 2.0 ?) and had a large amount of
| RAM - I can't remember, was it as much as 1 MB ?? The hard disk was also
| huge - 20MB. And a great 600*480 px B&W CRT monitor. Supplied software
was:
| NONE . The vendor threw in some programs including a great DOS word
| processor.
|
| Of course, read all adjectives such as "large" huge" "great" with the
| proverbial pinch of salt
|
| > Also a photog
| What do you mean by this line ?
| --
| Cheers,
| Trevor L.
| [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| MVPS Website: http://trevorl.mvps.org/
| ----------------------------------------
|
http://www.old-computers.com/museum/computer.asp?st=1&c=233
THIS was my first "laptop" and I still have it too.
| Rob Giordano (Crash) wrote:
| >
My first personal 'puter was a Commodore PET...so we are| > contemps. I didnt' go into programming though, I was more into
| > ripping stuff apart (still am) - that's why they call me Crash
|
| Was that the same as the Commodore 64 ? With all 64KB of RAM !!
|
| A friend of mine bought one for an exorbitant $AUS799 and lent it to me
for
| a while. I think he didn't know how to use it much (it programmed in
BASIC)
| and hoped that I might buy it off him. I used it a bit, and my son and I
(I
| think he was 16 or 17 - he is now nearly 38) wrote a few Mickey Mouse
| programs - and saved them to tape !!
|
| I had had some programming experience (I wasn't actually a professional
| programmer at that stage of my career) but my son only used what he had
| learnt at college (years 11 and 12 here in Australia).
|
| The first PC I bought was an Amstrad. It was an IBM PC XT clone. It ran at
| something like 6 mHZ (using MS/DOS ver 2.0 ?) and had a large amount of
| RAM - I can't remember, was it as much as 1 MB ?? The hard disk was also
| huge - 20MB. And a great 600*480 px B&W CRT monitor. Supplied software
was:
| NONE . The vendor threw in some programs including a great DOS word
| processor.
|
| Of course, read all adjectives such as "large" huge" "great" with the
| proverbial pinch of salt
|
| > Also a photog
| What do you mean by this line ?
| --
| Cheers,
| Trevor L.
| [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| MVPS Website: http://trevorl.mvps.org/
| ----------------------------------------
|
T
Trevor L.
Rob said:
Ah yes, I remember
Also the BBC and the Acorn. And the Tandy.
I can see how the Tandy woudl still be useful. With a decent sized keyboard
and powered by AA batteries, it would be great for typing notes in the
field.
I guess the Commdore 64 was an attempt at creating a smaller PC. It did not
have any VDU - you had to plug it into the aerial socket of a TV. It was a
liitle smaller than the cordless keyboard I am now typing on, although a lot
thicker. I'll see if it is on the museum site.
When you wrote "Also a photog" I didn't know whether you were referring to a
photo (which wasn't in the post) or what. Perhaps it was a reference to
earlier in the thread (which I hadn't read)
--
Cheers,
Trevor L.
[ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
MVPS Website: http://trevorl.mvps.org/
----------------------------------------
T
Trevor L.
Trevor said:
Ahah,
I found the photography reference
My wife and I also do a lot
Here are our Fotopic Websites (mainly hers these days)
Trevor's Personal: http://trevor.lawrence.fotopic.net
Trevor's Scenery: http://trevor.lawrence-2.fotopic.net
Trevor's Nature: http://trevor.lawrence-3.fotopic.net
Carole's Bus and Coach Photos: http://carole.lawrence.fotopic.net
Carole's Other Transport Photos: http://carole.lawrence-2.fotopic.net
Meet Mishcka: http://carolesphotos.fotopic.net/
Carole's Holiday & Miscellaneous Photos: http://carolesphotos-2.fotopic.net/
I think we have a long way to go to reach Kurt's level though
--
Cheers,
Trevor L.
[ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
MVPS Website: http://trevorl.mvps.org/
----------------------------------------
M
Murray
My personal opinion is that Java only has a use on the web when it provides
a necessary functionality, not when it only provides a cosmetic effect.
And, it DEFINITELY should not be used for navigation elements....
a necessary functionality, not when it only provides a cosmetic effect.
And, it DEFINITELY should not be used for navigation elements....
K
Kurt Knoll
I have a hunch there was a copyright infringement somewhere. Could this be
the reason why Microsoft omitted java ege applet support in IE7
Kurt Knoll.
the reason why Microsoft omitted java ege applet support in IE7
Kurt Knoll.
T
Tom Willett
Java support has not been omitted in IE7.
It will support Java that you install.
--
===
Tom Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
FrontPage Support:
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
===
|I have a hunch there was a copyright infringement somewhere. Could this be
| the reason why Microsoft omitted java ege applet support in IE7
|
| Kurt Knoll.
|
| | > My personal opinion is that Java only has a use on the web when it
| > provides a necessary functionality, not when it only provides a cosmetic
| > effect. And, it DEFINITELY should not be used for navigation
elements....
| >
| > --
| > Murray
| > --------------
| > MVP FrontPage
| >
| >
| > | >> You are absolutely right. I did download the java viritual machine and
it
| >> works. Therefore my question now would be" if I did have a commercial
web
| >> site, How many people who will see pictures where applets are being
| >> used".
| >>
| >> Kurt Knoll
| >> Photographs of the Canadian Pacific Northwest.
| >> at www.kurtknoll.com/midway.html
| >>
| >> | >>>I only see an ugly gray box - the same as most people on the web will
see
| >>>(since the number of web surfers who have actually downloaded and
| >>>installed the Java engine is quite small).
| >>>
| >>> Must you use this Java thing?
| >>>
| >>> --
| >>> Murray
| >>> --------------
| >>> MVP FrontPage
| >>>
| >>>
| >>> | >>>> Works fine for me. You must have a setting on your PC that's not
| >>>> allowing you to see it or you don't have a JVM (Java Virtual Machine)
| >>>> installed. Try looking at it from another PC
| >>>>
| >>>>
| >>>> | >>>>> Thanks here is the complete link this page is using an applet.
| >>>>>
| >>>>> http://www.kurtknoll.com/kitmtelseold.html
| >>>>>
| >>>>> Kurt Knoll
| >>>>> | >>>>>> Post a link to your page, please.
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>> --
| >>>>>> Murray
| >>>>>> --------------
| >>>>>> MVP FrontPage
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>> | >>>>>>> Internet explorer IE7 will not work with applets and or Frames on
| >>>>>>> pages created with FrontPage 2003
| >>>>>>>
| >>>>>>> Kurt Knoll
| >>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>
| >>>>>
| >>>>
| >>>>
| >>>
| >>>
| >>
| >>
| >
| >
|
|
It will support Java that you install.
--
===
Tom Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
FrontPage Support:
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
===
|I have a hunch there was a copyright infringement somewhere. Could this be
| the reason why Microsoft omitted java ege applet support in IE7
|
| Kurt Knoll.
|
| | > My personal opinion is that Java only has a use on the web when it
| > provides a necessary functionality, not when it only provides a cosmetic
| > effect. And, it DEFINITELY should not be used for navigation
elements....
| >
| > --
| > Murray
| > --------------
| > MVP FrontPage
| >
| >
| > | >> You are absolutely right. I did download the java viritual machine and
it
| >> works. Therefore my question now would be" if I did have a commercial
web
| >> site, How many people who will see pictures where applets are being
| >> used".
| >>
| >> Kurt Knoll
| >> Photographs of the Canadian Pacific Northwest.
| >> at www.kurtknoll.com/midway.html
| >>
| >> | >>>I only see an ugly gray box - the same as most people on the web will
see
| >>>(since the number of web surfers who have actually downloaded and
| >>>installed the Java engine is quite small).
| >>>
| >>> Must you use this Java thing?
| >>>
| >>> --
| >>> Murray
| >>> --------------
| >>> MVP FrontPage
| >>>
| >>>
| >>> | >>>> Works fine for me. You must have a setting on your PC that's not
| >>>> allowing you to see it or you don't have a JVM (Java Virtual Machine)
| >>>> installed. Try looking at it from another PC
| >>>>
| >>>>
| >>>> | >>>>> Thanks here is the complete link this page is using an applet.
| >>>>>
| >>>>> http://www.kurtknoll.com/kitmtelseold.html
| >>>>>
| >>>>> Kurt Knoll
| >>>>> | >>>>>> Post a link to your page, please.
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>> --
| >>>>>> Murray
| >>>>>> --------------
| >>>>>> MVP FrontPage
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>> | >>>>>>> Internet explorer IE7 will not work with applets and or Frames on
| >>>>>>> pages created with FrontPage 2003
| >>>>>>>
| >>>>>>> Kurt Knoll
| >>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>
| >>>>>
| >>>>
| >>>>
| >>>
| >>>
| >>
| >>
| >
| >
|
|