Is the Mac "Old MacDonald" on your farm? EIEIO.
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Tom Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
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|I have one original Dell left in the bunch (I have 5 PCs in my immediate
| farm, and 1 Mac). The Dell is running WXP Home and is not used for much
| anymore....
|
| The rest are custom-built rigs, ironically, using all the same
components
| that any Dell would use.... 8)
|
| --
| Murray
| --------------
| MVP FrontPage
|
|
| | > Makes sense. So you run all hybrids (no name brands) ?
| >
| > | >> Well, for one thing, I am protesting the way they have treated my
friend
| >> Paul Dell, who current owns and operates
http://www.dellwebsites.com -
to
| >> read about it, Google "Paul Dell".
| >>
| >> For another thing, I can get better options, support, and prices
having
| >> my computers custom built by an acquaintance about 10 miles from my
home.
| >> When 24 hours can make a big difference, I like this proximity!
| >>
| >> --
| >> Murray
| >> --------------
| >> MVP FrontPage
| >>
| >>
| >> | >>> Why not? My past few PCs have been Dell and I've never had an issue
| >>> with them. This one's an XPS 410 Intel Core2 6600, 2.4 GHz, 4 GIG
Ram,
| >>> 512 GeForce 700 GTX, 500 GIG HD, Dual DVDs, Dual TV Tuner etc. Runs
| >>> great.
| >>>
| >>> I like the Dells, except for some of the proprietary stuff, like
their
| >>> power supplies and other hardware, but configured from their site
and
| >>> running out of the box they work just fine.
| >>>
| >>> Although I buy my PCs at the AAFES - Army Exchange Store (no tax, no
| >>> shipping and cheaper) and Dell's their main vendor (they have HP and
| >>> Compaq but you take what you get there - can't configure them) so
that's
| >>> another reason I like them.
| >>>
| >>>
| >>> | >>>>I don't buy Dell anymore....
| >>>>
| >>>> --
| >>>> Murray
| >>>> --------------
| >>>> MVP FrontPage
| >>>>
| >>>>
| >>>> | >>>>> Gotta love value added software. I recently got a new Dell too
and
it
| >>>>> takes longer to unload their stuff than it does to load mine. And
| >>>>> that's without the nog
| >>>>>
| >>>>>
| >>>>> message | >>>>>> Santa brought me a Dell laptoop and it has it on there...i
thought
it
| >>>>>> said
| >>>>>> the install was 152 meg...but then again there was eggnog
involved.
| >>>>>> Spent
| >>>>>> most of yesterday removing "value added software"...and drinkin
nog.
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>> | >>>>>> | Mine did originally, also, both office and at home Dells.
However,
| >>>>>> I
| >>>>>> | upgrade it (manually) everytime the new version comes out.
| >>>>>> | --
| >>>>>> | ===
| >>>>>> | Tom Willett
| >>>>>> | Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| >>>>>> | ---
| >>>>>> | FrontPage Support:
| >>>>>> |
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
| >>>>>> | ===
| >>>>>> | | >>>>>> || Mine came preloaded on the PC.
| >>>>>> ||
| >>>>>> ||
| >>>>>> || | >>>>>> || > My Sun JRE (6.0) was only 12.5 MB.
| >>>>>> || > --
| >>>>>> || > ===
| >>>>>> || > Tom Willett
| >>>>>> || > Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| >>>>>> || > ---
| >>>>>> || > FrontPage Support:
| >>>>>> || >
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
| >>>>>> || > ===
| >>>>>> || > "Rob Giordano (Crash)" <
[email protected]>
wrote
| >>>>>> in
| >>>>>> | message
| >>>>>> || > | >>>>>> || > | Yah and it's 153meg dl...so who's gonna download it
anyway?
| >>>>>> || > |
| >>>>>> || > |
| >>>>>> || > | | >>>>>> || > || That's why people discourage the use of Java Applets on
| >>>>>> pages. Many
| >>>>>> || > new
| >>>>>> || > | PCs
| >>>>>> || > || may come with a JVM installed but you can't be sure. You
| >>>>>> could add
| >>>>>> || > some
| >>>>>> || > || text that tells the user if they can't see this to go to
| >>>>>> || > |
http://java.sun.com
| >>>>>> || > || and download a Java Virtual Machine (kind of like people
to
| >>>>>> when you
| >>>>>> || > need
| >>>>>> || > | to
| >>>>>> || > || download acrobat reader to see files) but that's about
all
| >>>>>> you can
| >>>>>> | do.
| >>>>>> || > ||
| >>>>>> || > ||
| >>>>>> || > || | >>>>>> || > || >I did already download the program but I think the
average
| >>>>>> internet
| >>>>>> || > user
| >>>>>> || > || >does not know about this and will not search any
further.
| >>>>>> || > || >
| >>>>>> || > || > Kurt Knoll.
| >>>>>> || > || >
| >>>>>> || > || > | >>>>>> || > || >> IE7 supports Java but Microsoft doesn't provide it
since
| >>>>>> the
| >>>>>> | lawsuit
| >>>>>> || > | with
| >>>>>> || > || >> SUN. You have to download a Java Virtual Machine for
it
| >>>>>> to work.
| >>>>>> || > || >>
http://java.sun.com
| >>>>>> || > || >>
| >>>>>> || > || >>
| >>>>>> || > || >> | >>>>>> || > || >>>I have a hunch there was a copyright infringement
| >>>>>> somewhere.
| >>>>>> Could
| >>>>>> || > this
| >>>>>> || > || >>>be the reason why Microsoft omitted java ege applet
| >>>>>> support in
| >>>>>> IE7
| >>>>>> || > || >>>
| >>>>>> || > || >>> Kurt Knoll.
| >>>>>> || > || >>>
| >>>>>> message
| >>>>>> || > || >>> | >>>>>> || > || >>>> My personal opinion is that Java only has a use on
the
| >>>>>> web when
| >>>>>> | it
| >>>>>> || > || >>>> provides a necessary functionality, not when it only
| >>>>>> provides a
| >>>>>> || > || >>>> cosmetic effect. And, it DEFINITELY should not be
used
| >>>>>> for
| >>>>>> || > navigation
| >>>>>> || > || >>>> elements....
| >>>>>> || > || >>>>
| >>>>>> || > || >>>> --
| >>>>>> || > || >>>> Murray
| >>>>>> || > || >>>> --------------
| >>>>>> || > || >>>> MVP FrontPage
| >>>>>> || > || >>>>
| >>>>>> || > || >>>>
| >>>>>> || > || >>>> | >>>>>> || > || >>>>> You are absolutely right. I did download the java
| >>>>>> viritual
| >>>>>> || > machine
| >>>>>> || > | and
| >>>>>> || > || >>>>> it works. Therefore my question now would be" if I
did
| >>>>>> have a
| >>>>>> || > || >>>>> commercial web site, How many people who will see
| >>>>>> pictures
| >>>>>> | where
| >>>>>> || > || >>>>> applets are being used".
| >>>>>> || > || >>>>>
| >>>>>> || > || >>>>> Kurt Knoll
| >>>>>> || > || >>>>> Photographs of the Canadian Pacific Northwest.
| >>>>>> || > || >>>>> at
www.kurtknoll.com/midway.html
| >>>>>> || > || >>>>>
| >>>>>> message
| >>>>>> || > || >>>>> | >>>>>> || > || >>>>>>I only see an ugly gray box - the same as most
people
| >>>>>> on the
| >>>>>> | web
| >>>>>> || > | will
| >>>>>> || > || >>>>>>see (since the number of web surfers who have
actually
| >>>>>> | downloaded
| >>>>>> || > | and
| >>>>>> || > || >>>>>>installed the Java engine is quite small).
| >>>>>> || > || >>>>>>
| >>>>>> || > || >>>>>> Must you use this Java thing?
| >>>>>> || > || >>>>>>
| >>>>>> || > || >>>>>> --
| >>>>>> || > || >>>>>> Murray
| >>>>>> || > || >>>>>> --------------
| >>>>>> || > || >>>>>> MVP FrontPage
| >>>>>> || > || >>>>>>
| >>>>>> || > || >>>>>>
| >>>>>> || > || >>>>>> | >>>>>> || > || >>>>>>> Works fine for me. You must have a setting on
your
| >>>>>> PC
| >>>>>> that's
| >>>>>> || > not
| >>>>>> || > || >>>>>>> allowing you to see it or you don't have a JVM
(Java
| >>>>>> Virtual
| >>>>>> || > || >>>>>>> Machine) installed. Try looking at it from
another
PC
| >>>>>> || > || >>>>>>>
| >>>>>> || > || >>>>>>>
message
| >>>>>> || > || >>>>>>> | >>>>>> || > || >>>>>>>> Thanks here is the complete link this page is
using
| >>>>>> an
| >>>>>> | applet.
| >>>>>> || > || >>>>>>>>
| >>>>>> || > || >>>>>>>>
http://www.kurtknoll.com/kitmtelseold.html
| >>>>>> || > || >>>>>>>>
| >>>>>> || > || >>>>>>>> Kurt Knoll
in
| >>>>>> message
| >>>>>> || > || >>>>>>>> | >>>>>> || > || >>>>>>>>> Post a link to your page, please.
| >>>>>> || > || >>>>>>>>>
| >>>>>> || > || >>>>>>>>> --
| >>>>>> || > || >>>>>>>>> Murray
| >>>>>> || > || >>>>>>>>> --------------
| >>>>>> || > || >>>>>>>>> MVP FrontPage
| >>>>>> || > || >>>>>>>>>
| >>>>>> || > || >>>>>>>>>
message
| >>>>>> || > || >>>>>>>>> | >>>>>> || > || >>>>>>>>>> Internet explorer IE7 will not work with
applets
| >>>>>> and or
| >>>>>> || > Frames
| >>>>>> || > | on
| >>>>>> || > || >>>>>>>>>> pages created with FrontPage 2003
| >>>>>> || > || >>>>>>>>>>
| >>>>>> || > || >>>>>>>>>> Kurt Knoll
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