automatically change start and finish dates

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D. Brannon

I have a project and we just found out we have to shorten the project
ruration from 78 to 45 days. I was wondering, if there was a process that I
could take that, if entered in the duration space; that it would
automatically change all the dates within the project?

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Redneck David

D.

The short answer to your question is no, and end up with something
meaningful to automatically reschedule a project to 58% of the original time.

What you should do is revisit you schedule and consider the durations along
your critical path (and near-critical path). Ask yourself, "can any of these
tasks overlap"? If so, give them a SS or FF predessor relationship that is
appropriate.

You can reduce overall time that way. Also are your durations too "fat"?
Are you using responsibly conservative durations? Do you need to be more
"flaming liberal" in your view of how long tasks can take. Can durations be
reduced because another army of resources can be applied to the job?

Scheduling takes alot of elbow grease. There ain't no automatic and get it
right. Cutting down to 58% of the time may add a little risk to the project.

Least that's my opinion.

David

Good luck
 
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Steve House

You can't just arbitrarily shorten durations - the work will take
however long it will take to create the required deliverables and that's
it - just entering a shorter duration is simply wishful thinking,
pretending everything's okay when there's no reason to believe that it
is. If you want to get the project done sooner, you cannot just change
the dates - you have to do something real that will affect the rate at
which work is performed, like hire more bodies to do it for example. 45
days might be the new deadline but the problem is not how enter that
into the plan. The problem is what concrete changes do you need to make
in the way the work is structured and the resources deployed in order to
fit the work that was going to fill 78 days into what is now got to be a
45 day time frame.
 
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davegb

Redneck said:
D.

The short answer to your question is no, and end up with something
meaningful to automatically reschedule a project to 58% of the original time.

What you should do is revisit you schedule and consider the durations along
your critical path (and near-critical path). Ask yourself, "can any of these
tasks overlap"? If so, give them a SS or FF predessor relationship that is
appropriate.

Or use lead time to overlap tasks.
You can reduce overall time that way. Also are your durations too "fat"?
Are you using responsibly conservative durations? Do you need to be more
"flaming liberal" in your view of how long tasks can take. Can durations be
reduced because another army of resources can be applied to the job?

Scheduling takes alot of elbow grease. There ain't no automatic and get it
right. Cutting down to 58% of the time may add a little risk to the project.

Least that's my opinion.

David

Good luck

Something to consider it that it may not be possible to shorten the
project by that much. All too often, management thinks that a project
can be done in whatever time they wish. But an old saying in Project
Management is that, "No matter how many people you put to work on it, a
pregnancy still takes 9 months". Some tasks/projects can be accelerated
by adding resources, others can't. And adding resources once a task has
begun almost invariably increases duration rather than decreasing it.
There are other ways to accelerate a schedule to numerous to go into
here, but you might look into that.

Further, accelerating a schedule that much will most definitely
increase cost and schedule risk. It will also increase cost
considerably, without question. It takes a lot of experience and
judgement to accelerate a project this much.

There are a lot of reasons this can't be done automatically. If you
decide to reduce all durations proportionately to accelerate the
project, you will almost assuredly have a "fake" schedule. There are
usually tasks that cannot be accelerated this way, like the example of
the pregnancy. Getting permits comes to mind as a common real world
example. There are many others. Beyond that, any task has a limit to
how many resources can effectively be added. If it takes one programmer
10 days to write 5000 lines of code, can 5000 programmers write the
code in 2.88 minutes? The tasks have to be looked at one by one to
determine how much, if any, their durations can be reduced.

And then you should consider Quality. In most cases, accelerating a
project that significantly is almost impossible to do without
sacrificing quality. If this is acceptable, then go ahead. Usually, in
these kinds of cases, the loss of quality is ignored. Everyone pretends
it isn't happening. Unfortunately, someone down the road is unhappy. Is
your client the type to overlook this? If not, let your lawyers start
preparing to defend your decisions in court.

The poster above said risk might increase. I can tell you from
experience it will. You should factor all these considerations in
before making, or agreeing to, this kind of radical schedule change.
Who will be blamed if some or all of these things I've mentioned come
to pass? Usually, the PM. I strongly recommend you do some CYA here, if
nothing else.

Hope this helps in your world.
 
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D. Brannon

Thanks David,

The poblem I have is 2-fold. 1) My company just got control of this
project last Friday and it is 3 months overdue. 2) The president of the
company is like any other president and thinks that we can just throw more
people and time at it. Your answer answered my question but now I have even
bigger problems to think about now..... The life of an APM.....
 
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D. Brannon

Thanks Davegb,

My critical path is skimmed to almost nothing and we( PM and I) believe that
there are no areas that can be trimmed. However, our fight is now with
managment and a disgruntled client whose building is already late. The
struggles of an APM.....
 
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D. Brannon

Thanks Steve,

We do have some tough decisions to make to accomplish our goal. I believe
that nothing is impossible however, I can't make bricks without straw.
Thanks for your assistance though.
 
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davegb

D. Brannon said:
Thanks Davegb,

My critical path is skimmed to almost nothing and we( PM and I) believe that
there are no areas that can be trimmed. However, our fight is now with
managment and a disgruntled client whose building is already late. The
struggles of an APM.....

What is an APM?

I understand and empathize. Been there, done that. I learned years ago
that in these situations, you have to make tough decisions. One thing
that helped me was to realize that I had a choice as to whether to have
an unhappy client during the project, or an even unhappier client after
the project was done. I decided the former was the lesser of 2 evils.

In your situation, I'd sit the client down and give them the facts.
Show them the schedule and ask them for suggestions on how to
accelerate it. Ask them what kind of quality concessions they're
prepared to make. If they agree to quality concessions, get it in
writing. Make them aware that you're behind a rock and a hardspot, and
don't want to cheat them. The reality is, you are where you are, not
where you wanted to be some months ago or where you and they wish you
were now. Most reasonable clients will come around. As to the others,
well, you probably shouldn't be seeking future business with them
anyway.
 
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Steve House [Project MVP]

It may be possible or it may not. My comment was really directed at whoever
is pressuring you to reduce the schedule who apparently thinks all you have
to do is change the numbers on the chart and wave a magic wand and that
somehow will magically make the work all fall into line. IT won't work
<grin>. IMHO management is an act of discovery of solutions rather than the
imposition of an act of will-power. So I'll stand by my premise - if all
you do is fudge the numbers so the plan appears the way the boss wants it
to, it very likely will fail when you try to do the work. But if you follw
davebg's advice and tackle the problem by controlling the factors that
physically influence how long it takes tasks to be done you might have a
shot at making it work.
 

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