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Sure I want them free, as they are being denied human rights and justice.

Israel is occupying land they took by force and stole from those people and
they *must* return the land.

There is no honour for any person that fights in a war - they must have been
dumb or indoctrinated to go to war.

Ask Bastet/Sarah/Agnes/Haggard Aggie/Black Allis/Amethyst/Sarah/Cassandra
etc etc. why she should be incarcerated. It is despicable she has not been.

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[Mike Koewler]

David,

How do you know I would not be a violent person? I got a call yesterday
from an owner of a store who told me I was "menacing" and scared her
worker. I admit, I did ask for the "Corporate Office" phone number -
nicely - since the girl, who seemed to be about as mature as a mustard
seed, couldn't make a decision on whether to spend $4.00 to be part of
community event in its seventh year, and wouldn't call "corporate"
herself to get an okay.

As for the rest of your argument, I am more than willing to debate it
via e-mail. I would rather keep this NG focused toward helping those who
have questions about Pub or DTP.

Regards,

Mike

 

[Mike Koewler]

David,

There is no honour for any person that fights in a war - they must have been
dumb or indoctrinated to go to war.

Would you or would you not defend your wife if someone attacked her?
Would you or would you not take action against somebody who attempts to
rob you or cause you bodily harm. Be honest. If you and your wife are at
a restaurant enjoying your wedding anniversary, and somebody walks up
and jack-slaps her into tomorrow, would you continue eating your meal
like nothing happened?

Mike

 

[°°°MS°Publisher°°°]

Mike, nobody would ever beat a beautiful women.
Secondly we are to well known for anybody to want to do any damage to us.
We are well known philanthropists to good and deserving causes, and doubt
anybody would ever want to attack us.
The type of restaurants we go to, you would be highly unlikely to find
anybody that would get violent.

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[Ed Bennett]

After managing to set up OE-QuoteFix on his new PC, Ed reads a message

Mike, nobody would ever beat a beautiful women.

You want to put money oon that?

Secondly we are to well known for anybody to want to do any damage to
us. We are well known philanthropists to good and deserving causes,
and doubt anybody would ever want to attack us.

Ditto my first question.

The type of restaurants we go to, you would be highly unlikely to find
anybody that would get violent.

Which types of restaurants are those?

 

[°°°MS°Publisher°°°]

Ed, where do you live? Where I live there is no violence or problems of any
type.

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[Budget Print Center]

"Where I live there is no violence or problems of any type."

No, Just alot of bigotry. I am really beginning to suspect that your age
is'nt much greater than your shoe size. Any grown man with even a LITTLE
real-life experiece would'nt spout off half the self-contradicting add
misguided gibberish that you do.

 

[Ed Bennett]

After managing to set up OE-QuoteFix on his new PC, Ed reads a message

Ed, where do you live? Where I live there is no violence or problems
of any type.

I never said there were. I merely asked if you would put money on the
"facts" (no cite or proof seen yet) that:
a) nobody would ever beat a beautiful women. (is that singular or plural?)
b) nobody would ever want to attack you

And enquired as to the types of restaurants that you frequent, where you
claim that I would be highly unlikely to find anyone violent.

And sure, it may be highly unlikely, but *not impossible*.

 

[DavidJ01]

And where do you live ?

Unless you are speaking about the confines of your home, or so far out in
the country that there are no neighbors for miles, then there is violence
and other problems. To say otherwise is a lie. And for clarification,
we're speaking about areas with at least a modest population.

If there is no violence or other problems (in your city, town, county,
hamlet, burg, or whatever you have there) why do you have locks on your
doors? Why are there police and police stations? Are there lawyers of
*ANY* type there? Are there any pubs or bars there? Have the auto body
shops repaired any vehicles as a result of damage from drunk driving? Have
the medical facilities there treated anyone for anything that can be related
to a violent act? Let's pull up the statistics on your area and see what
sort of "problems" actually do exist.

Once again you've shown ignorance with your posting of propaganda that is
without fact or basis, and can be easily disputed.

 

[DavidJ01]

Sure I want them free, as they are being denied human rights and justice.

Define the rights of a terrorist and what injustice they're experiencing.

Israel is occupying land they took by force and stole from those people and
they *must* return the land.

Stole from who? Lets investigate the facts of the borders, when and by whom
they were defined. Then lets further understand where the Palestinians came
from and when their borders were established. Only then can an intelligent
discussion evolve.

There is no honor for any person that fights in a war - they must have been
dumb or indoctrinated to go to war.

I hope no war machine ever rolls through your town. Cowards and pacifists
don't have the courage needed to stand up and fight for their rights.

Ask Bastet/Sarah/Agnes/Haggard Aggie/Black Allis/Amethyst/Sarah/Cassandra
etc etc. why she should be incarcerated. It is despicable she has not

been.

I asked you. You're the one with contradictory positions.

 

[DavidJ01]

Thanks for your service overseas !

David...

btw.. USNAVY DD Eisenhower 1983-1987 catapult steam shop.... Beiruit crisis
peacekeeping force. also assisted in keeping Mr qadafi from overrunning his
position. MSPublisher also forgets the relatively inexpensive gasoline in
his motor vehicle that is constantly threatened to evaporate.

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"Display tolerance & kindness to those with less
knowledge than you because there is ALWAYS
someone with more"

Interesting...

You want known & suspected terrorists freed, you want to further try and
"contain" a Jewish society that was nearly exterminated from this world, and
you defame the honor of those who died in world wars trying to make the
world a better place to live. Yet when Bastet speaks her mind you want her
incarcerated for life because she's "firstly a Blitisher and secondly a
major problem adult". (See the thread you were involved in earlier today,
Publisher 2000 and internet explorer 6 Freezes computer) I'm curious

as

to
what defines a major problem adult? Someone who mass murders thousands of
his own people? Someone who calls for other radicals to carry out terrorist
attacks? Someone who builds a gigantic war machine and sweeps across
Europe, or is it simply just someone who speaks their mind?

I've heard this same sort of dribble from those who hate America and her
allies (would that be a Blitisher?), who are anti-Semitic, and would rather
make excuses for terrorists rather than face the truth about them. It's
pathetic.

I assume you're not one of them...

out

 

[°°°MS°Publisher°°°]

Did you see the Republican and Democrat Senators are telling them to release
those gentlemen they have illegally incarcerated in inhumane conditions and
being tortured by those ratbag US soldiers in Guantanamo Bay.

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[°°°MS°Publisher°°°]

Look we have no issues at all. We live in a very peaceful place of harmony
and love, and in tune with the environment and nature.

Our police are the trash of the earth and take that job as job of last
resort. Our police lie and are despicable rude ignorant poorly educated
failed fools that could not get a job in the real world - just like those
that join the military forces.

Lawyers, judges/magistrates are the only thing worse than somebody who joins
the military - scum. They have no idea of the meaning of justice. The put
people away instead of rehabilitation and to educate them to a better more
meaningful life.

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[°°°MS°Publisher°°°]

Look, they are not terrorists at all.
They have not been tried in a civil court.
You yankees are denying those gentleman their human rights.
Why do you think Democrat and Republican Senators are demanding their
release.
You have no right to hold foreigners when you invaded their country illegal
just as you did in Iraq.
The American fools in Iraq cannot even do anything practical or meaningful.
They come up with a new plan every week and you fools are going nowhere and
achieving nothing except it is costing you buckets of money. The Iraq
people will never forgive you and you will pay the price more each day till
you get your trash soldiers out of Iraq.
george bonsai bush was such a chicken ass weasel he had to fly in
unannounced to Iraq and only stayed two hours. How much more gutless can
you get, and bonsai bush is supposed to be head of the armed forces weak
weak weak useless weasel.

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[Mike Koewler]

David,

You have e-mail. I doubt you have the spine to respond to it, though.

Mike

 

[Mike Koewler]

David,

I asked a simple, hypothetical question and you refuse to answer it.
Instead, you dodge the question, as answering it truthfully would either
show you are lying or you have no concern for those people who are
important to you.

Again, I'll ask the question, but I'll type it real slow: IF someone
came up to your wife in a restaurant and tried assaulting her, to the
point her life was in danger, would you respond or would you ignore it.
You can answer in one word if typing an explanation is too taxing on you
- yes or no?

If past history is any example, you will not answer or will dodge the
question. That's okay, it shows you have no validity or belief in your
views regarding this subject. Or it means that some lowly peon from the
United States has shown that a certain Australian is a legend in his own
mind.

To others reading this thread - I am sorry for taking up bandwidth. But,
I won't see my son this Christmas - he is serving our country. Worse
than that, a lot of parents will never see their son or daughter again -
they lost their life trying to protect us against those who would do us
harm. David is welcome to his opinions, as are all those who post here.
However, it would be more interesting if he would defend himself and his
view, rather than posting and running, without answering anything. I'll
try to keep correspondence with David to personal e-mails, if he has the
spine to reply.

Mike

 

[Mike Koewler]

David,

How did people feel about the most powerful person on Earth visiting
troops in the battle field? Here's a letter I received from one of them:

We knew there was a dinner planned with Ambassador Bremer and LTG
Sanchez. There were 600 seats available and all the units in the
division were tasked with filling a few tables. Naturally, the 501st MI
battalion got our table.
Soldiers were grumbling about having to sit through another dog-and-pony
show, so we had to pick soldiers to attend. I chose not to go.
But, about 1500 the G2, LTC Devan, came up to me and with a smile, asked
me to come to dinner with him, to meet him in his office at 1600 and
bring a camera. I didn't really care about getting a picture with
Sanchez or Bremer, but when the division's senior intelligence officer
asks you to go, you go.
We were seated in the chow hall, fully decorated for Thanksgiving when
aaaaallllll kinds of secret service guys showed up. That was my first
clue, because Bremer's been here before and his personal security
detachment is not that big. Then BG Dempsey got up to speak, and he
welcomed ambassador Bremer and LTG Sanchez. Bremer thanked us all and
pulled out a piece of paper as if to give a speech. He mentioned that
the President had given him this thanksgiving speech to give to the
troops. He then paused and said that the senior man present should be
the one to give it. He then looked at Sanchez, who just smiled.
Bremer then said that we should probably get someone more senior to read
the speech. Then, from behind the camouflage netting, the President of
the United States came around. The mess hall actually erupted with
hollering.
Troops bounded to their feet with shocked smiles and just began cheering
with all their hearts. The building actually shook. It was just unreal.
I was absolutely stunned. Not only for the obvious, but also because I
was only two tables away from the podium. There he stood, less than
thirty feet away from me! The cheering went on and on and on.
Soldiers were hollering, cheering, and a lot of them were crying. There
was not a dry eye at my table. When he stepped up to the cheering, I
could clearly see tears running down his cheeks. It was the most surreal
moment I've had in years. Not since my wedding and Aaron being born.
Here was this man, our President, came all the way around the world,
spending 17 hours on an airplane and landing in the most dangerous
airport in the world, where a plane was shot out of the sky not six days
before. Just to spend two hours with his troops. Only to get on a plane
and spend another 17 hours flying back. It was a great moment, and I
will never forget it. He delivered his speech, which we all loved, when
he looked right at me and held his eyes on me. Then he stepped down and
was just mobbed by the soldiers. He slowly worked his way all the way
around the chow hall and shook every last hand extended. Every soldier
who wanted a photo with the President got one. I made my way through the
line, got dinner, then wolfed it down as he was still working the room.
You could tell he was really enjoying himself. It wasn't just a photo
opportunity. This man was actually enjoying himself! He worked his way
over the course of about 90 minutes towards my side of the room.
Meanwhile, I took the opportunity to shake a few hands. I got a picture
with Ambassador Bremer, Talabani (acting Iraqi president) and Achmed
Chalabi (another member of the ruling council) and Condaleeza Rice, who
was there with him.
I felt like I was drunk. He was getting closer to my table so I went
back over to my seat. As he passed and posed for photos, he looked me in
the eyes and said "How you doin', captain." I smiled and said "God bless
you, sir." To which he responded "I'm proud of what you do, captain."
Then moved on.

End sent message

David, tell me one Australian who would have had the gonads to do this
and in doing so would have made so many people happy and proud. You
cannot do it. Why? Because you profess to be among Australia's brightest
and most self-reliant people, yet you will not answer a simple question
about what you would do if your wife was attacked.

You know my e-mail address and my phone number. You can respond via any
method that suits your fancy.

Mike

 

[DavidJ01]

Again, you've failed to respond to specific questions and refuse to discuss
facts. Meaningless babble flows out of you like sewer from a toilet. By
acknowledging a local police force, as well as having lawyers, you have
again contradicted your previous statements.

And while you're nothing more than a cowardly piss ant moron, a dumb sheep
that follows others, and a pathetic kool-aid drinker, I do enjoy watching
you make a fool out of yourself. You do it with such ease I wonder if it
comes naturally or if you've been working hard at it all your life.

 

[DavidJ01]

Mike,

You're probably right, this isn't the proper forum for this discussion so I
guess I should back off in respect to others and the topic of this forum...
On the otherhand, I haven't heard any complaints from the other users or
moderators... I'd love to take it somewhere else if possible.

That's a great letter you shared. It was read on our local talk radio
station last week and it brought tears to my eyes. I appreciate your son
being in the service, when he returns from Iraq make sure he knows his
service is appreciated and that he has our countries respect.

About a month ago, the same station above got word that the "not in our
name" protesters we going to stage a protest at the gates of the local Army
base and wave their petty signs and banners at our troops as they were being
deployed. WE decided that it wasn't going to happen that way. Picture if
you will, 7-8 thousand supporters on a cold windy and rainy day here in the
Pacific Northwest, with their own signs and flags cheering and thanking the
soldiers as they passed. Soldiers were crying, waving, saluting, whooping &
hollering, and so were we... It was a great day !

BTW... a few of the protesters did show up but they were quickly swallowed
up by the crowd and "hidden from sight" Word has it that the rest of
the protesters saw that we had all the highway overpasses covered, as well
as the entrances to the base so they turned around as well.

Best Regards,

The "other" David...

 

[°°°MS°Publisher°°°]

Mike nobody would ever attack me or my wife, but if they did, they probably
would get stopped before they reached us. If they did, sure, I would stop
them.

You people need to learn to love peace and forget about war and all those
mongrels that want to partake in it.

Human rights, civility, peace among all people, and living in tune with
nature should be the main thrust of human beings.

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