Default file save locations

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Nesdon

Version: 2008 Operating System: Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard) Processor: Intel When I select File>Save As... my 15" Macbook Pro running OSX 10.5 defaults to the last directory where I have saved other files, rather than the directory from which I opened the file I am saving.

Over the year that I have been using this Mac, this has resulted in files becoming scattered all over my drive, as I often forget to change the directory before I save.

Can I change this setting?
 
C

CyberTaz

If you're saving changes made to the file why are you using 'Save As' in the
first place? Just use the 'Save' command to update the file in its current
location.
 
N

Nesdon

If you're saving changes made to the file why are you using 'Save As' in the
> first place?

I assumed that this would be a common enough practice that it would not need to be explained. I often use old files as templates for new files.

e.g. I have a syllabus in which I change dates and details for each new class. I open the one from the previous class, make the changes, and save it with the new class' date in the name. I often do this as well to keep track of various revision levels and collaborations, where I save a single base document under different names so I can restore earlier or varying versions.

It would definitely be advantageous to me to change this setting so that docs are always defaulted to their original folders.
 
M

Michel Bintener

I assumed that this would be a common enough practice that it would not
need to be explained. I often use old files as templates for new files.

e.g. I have a syllabus in which I change dates and details for each new
class. I open the one from the previous class, make the changes, and
save it with the new class' date in the name.

Hi,

it certainly is a common enough practice, but there is one that is much,
much better than this one. Open one of these syllabus documents, delete
these dates and details, or highlight or format them to make them more
visible, then save the document as a template (using the File>Save As
dialogue). You can now double-click this template, or access it from
within the Project Gallery, and a new document will open, based on the
template. This method has the advantage that you never accidentally
overwrite older files; since you are now working on a new document based
on a template (as opposed to an actual document that has been edited),
you can simply use the File>Save command, and you will be asked for a
saving location (which will automatically default to the folder
specified in Word's preferences).

If that is not enough, you can always install a 3rd party tool, such as
Default Folder X, which gives you more control over this particular
aspect of an application:

<http://www.stclairsoft.com/DefaultFolderX/>
 
J

John McGhie

Sadly, you "can't" change that.

The Apple has different rules surrounding its concept of "Current
Directory". I specifically asked Microsoft during the product beta to
change this behaviour: but they haven't.

Use Help>Send Feedback to register your "vote" for the change. Any change
at all to Microsoft Office depends almost entirely on user feedback, and
Help>Send Feedback is weighted higher than almost all other kinds of
feedback.

Cheers


Version: 2008 Operating System: Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard) Processor: Intel When
I select File>Save As... my 15" Macbook Pro running OSX 10.5 defaults to the
last directory where I have saved other files, rather than the directory from
which I opened the file I am saving.

Over the year that I have been using this Mac, this has resulted in files
becoming scattered all over my drive, as I often forget to change the
directory before I save.

Can I change this setting?

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C

CyberTaz

Hi Nesdon;

I assumed that this would be a common enough practice that it would not need
to be explained. I often use old files as templates for new files.

.... And I 'assumed' -- or at least hoped -- that you weren't one who
subscribed to such practice, "common" as it may be :) As Michel points out,
this is one of the least desirable of workflows because it creates its own
problems. What you're experiencing is one, he points out another.
e.g. I have a syllabus in which I change dates and details for each new class.
I open the one from the previous class, make the changes, and save it with the
new class' date in the name. I often do this as well to keep track of various
revision levels and collaborations, where I save a single base document under
different names so I can restore earlier or varying versions.

It would definitely be advantageous to me to change this setting so that docs
are always defaulted to their original folders.

Well, that's part of what the problem stems from. As soon as you select Save
As you're no longer dealing with that document -- a *new* one is being
created. The expectation of the OS -- right or wrong -- is that the user
prefers to save it in the last location accessed. If you've switched to a
folder different than the one from which the document you're now working
with was opened, the OS & program is focused on that last folder. I'm not
sure how operationally prudent it would be to have the OS swapping back to a
different folder every time a new document is being saved.

Although I can appreciate your preference it seems to me that having it work
differently would create even more of a problem for other users. My point
being only that no matter how it's designed to operate it will be "perfect"
for some users & "horrible" for others.

Be that as it may, your conflict can most readily be resolved if you simply
get into the habit of doing your Save As immediately upon opening the source
file, regardless of whether you follow Michel's suggestion of creating
templates. That instantly puts the new file in the same folder as the source
file on which it's being based.

Another option that should work even better: As you open the original go to
the Open: button in the lower left corner of the Open dialog & select 'Copy'
rather than 'Original'. Doing so will give you the new document right off
the bat & the default Save location will be set to the same folder as its
'parent' document. It will remain so even if you go on to open files from
other folders before saving it. This averts the need for templates,
eliminates the possibility of overwriting the original (as long as you don't
give the new document the same name as another), and sets your default Save
location for the new document as you prefer.

HTH |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
 
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Alec Dann

Bob, there are lots of reasons to save with a new file name. Preserving version differences is one. Not everyone works on the same LAN or is assisted by a work group product. Developing a document with a contractor or a contract with an attorney often requires versions of a document with different names. Dates are often used but so are version numbers...just like versions of the MAC OS. If the gods at ATT (and their Unix descendents like Apple) and MS had more forethought, they would have added a version attribute to the file properties. Then you could have it your way.
Version: 2008
Operating System: Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard)
Processor: Intel

When I select File>Save As... my 15&quot; Macbook Pro running OSX 10.5 defaults to the last directory where I have saved other files, rather than the directory from which I opened the file I am saving. <br><br>Over the year that I have been using this Mac, this has resulted in files becoming scattered all over my drive, as I often forget to change the directory before I save. <br><br>Can I change this setting?
On Wednesday, January 27, 2010 5:15 PM CyberTaz wrote:
If you are saving changes made to the file why are you using 'Save As' in the
first place? Just use the 'Save' command to update the file in its current
location.
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