EMF from Visio makes Word print problem

[jay]

Win XP, Word 03
40 meg document with lots of graphics and junk.
Fairily well behaved. I've pulled a lot of embedded Visio drawings out
and replaced them with EMFs. That brought the size down from 50 megs+.
One page with text and an EMF is acting up.

The page looks fine, and Cute PDF makes a decent PDF out of the doc.
The PDF looks fine.
On one of our offfice printers, that particular page is upside down.
Not just the graphic- the whole page, headers, footers, etc.

Even stranger, the same page prints upside down FROM THE PDF to that
printer.
Well, obviously it is the printer. But- any ideas as to avoid this?

What format is more reliable/preferred going from Visio to Word?

I also posted this in a Word group.

Regards
Jay

 

[WapperDude]

To place a Visio drawing (actual drawing, not a file), I copy and paste
(paste special) so that the Word doc has a Visio drawing object. I've not
had any problems with this in either W2003 or W2007. This allows you to
double click the image and edit in Visio. I think this will also reduce your
doc size.

HTH
Wapperdude

 

[jay]

I normally do an insert>object>from file for Visios.
For pics I may do insert > picture > from file
or drag the EMF into the doc.

I have the distinct impression that my doc went down when I changed
from embedded VSDs to EMFs.
(again, about ten meg, even with adding other pics.)

It sure can be nice to click and edit, that's for sure.
For now, I saved as PNG and put that in the doc. (600 dpi, 'good
enough')
cheers
Jay

 

[WapperDude]

I was expecting the EMF to be larger, but, it does seem to be smaller than
embedding the Visio drawing. Surprised that it's giving you a problem.
Imagine the Word folks have some suggestions and I suppose you've tried some
things yourself. But, you might try (save a backup 1st), a.) deleting
contents on that page and re-entering, b.) delete that page, save as new doc,
open new doc and re-create the troublesome page. I think Word let's you look
at all of the page formatting symbols, you might want to take a look and see
if there's anything unusual.

Wapperdude

 

[jay]

The page worked fine without the graphic.
The PNG isn't satisfactory, so I'll have to play with it some more.

Thanks
Jay

 

[WapperDude]

Hi Jay --
Have you tried saving just that page, with the graphics by itself, and then
printing it? I know this won't be the ultimate solutions because you
probably have page numbers and other format issues, but, I hate unresolved
issues. I think if the page with graphics -- even with the original Visio
file -- should print OK, then there's a possible memory issue??? Anyway,
it's just a thought.

Wapperdude

 

[jay]

Again, the wierd(est) part is that it would make a PDF that displays
fine.
It would print fine (to at least one printer)

it prints inverted to another printer. (from Word directly or from the
PDF in Acrobat Reader)

Really, this is a Visio/Windows/printer issue. (or maybe a Cute PDF
issue?)

I edited the VSD, re-saved as EMF, re-placed it in Word, and generated
a new PDF, still using Cute PDF.
It still inverts the page.

Wierd s***.

I'll (try to remember to) post back if I ever find an answer.
cheers
Jay

 

[jay]

Again, the wierd(est) part is that it would make a PDF that displays
fine.
It would print fine (to at least one printer)

it prints inverted to another printer. (from Word directly or from the
PDF in Acrobat Reader)

Really, this is a Visio/Windows/printer issue. (or maybe a Cute PDF
issue?)

I edited the VSD, re-saved as EMF, re-placed it in Word, and generated
a new PDF, still using Cute PDF.
It still inverts the page.

Wierd s***.

I'll (try to remember to) post back if I ever find an answer.
cheers
Jay

oh- I just tested as embedded VSD in Word.
same thing - flips the page to that particular printer.
looks fine on screen, prints fine to other printer.
- now I just have to warn users not to output it on the B&W printer?
(-:

Jay

 

[WapperDude]

Sounds more like a printer driver problem than a Visio/Word/PDF. If it
consistently screwed up on all printers, then I'd suspect some sort of file
issue. But, since at least one printer is OK, then, I suspect the printers.
Have your IT guys make sure that all of the drivers are up to date. Weird
that it's one page. Does that page have some unusual margin settings or a
page break that might be throwing the printer off?

Wapperdude

 

[jay]

Sounds more like a printer driver problem than a Visio/Word/PDF.  If it
consistently screwed up on all printers, then I'd suspect some sort of file
issue.  But, since at least one printer is OK, then, I suspect the printers.  
Have your IT guys make sure that all of the drivers are up to date.  Weird
that it's one page.  Does that page have some unusual margin settings or a
page break that might be throwing the printer off?

Wapperdude

- no, just the graphic.
I put the PNG version back in, it works fine.
- well, it isn't as nice looking as the vsd or emf, but it is *good
enough*.

cheers
Jay

 

[WapperDude]

Cheers???

You're in the UK? Say, you're not mixing units, metric and US are you??
Just kidding!!!

Still seems quite strange that one page would have an issue with a graphic.
In case you still want to pursue it a little more, did you try a different
graphic? Say one that prints OK.

From the other side of the pond.
Wapperdude

 

[jay]

Cheers???

You're in the UK?  Say, you're not mixing units, metric and US are you??  
 Just kidding!!!

Still seems quite strange that one page would have an issue with a graphic.  
In case you still want to pursue it a little more, did you try a different
graphic?  Say one that prints OK.  

From the other side of the pond.
Wapperdude

I just passed it along to the support people here- if they want to
investigate, fine.
Otherwise, fine.

There will be few of these printed anyhow, and they'll probably just
output it on the color printer.
No problem.

from sunny Southern California
cheers
Jay

 

[jay]

On Sep 15, 8:36 pm, WapperDude <[email protected]>
wrote:

I ran into the same issue in several other docs.
Always a fancier Visio, with nifty shapes and such.

Funny that either the VSD or EMF would cause the issue printing
directly or from PDF to that printer.
- really odd that the PDF looks great in either case, but the page
flips when output to that printer.

From Acrobat Reader, I set 'as image' and it worked fine. But, the doc
prints really slowly if I send the whole thing as image.

The printer is a RICOH Aficio 3045 PS

I tried tweaking some of the PS settings, no effect on this.
Anyone else ever encounter this?

Regards
Jay